KungFucius
King Snowflake
This has me confused too. If I can run it with no heatsink then I can use the bottom/backside M2 slot on my mobo. But probably not because the airflow would suck. I always thought those slots were silly.
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Sony Group (Nextorage) to release M.2 SSD at 7GB/s, PCIE 4.0 (1TB~£165 // 2TB~£320)
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PuppetMaster
Member
Well I am not going to to spend over $400 on a 2TB drive just based on wishful thinking. Will wait for actual confirmation from Sony.
Md Ray
Member
Pretty cool. I thought DDR4 would be more expensive to use than DDR3, but yeah it's on the way out so it makes sense to use DDR4 especially now that DDR5 isn't far off from being used in the desktop space as system RAM.
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LazyParrot
Member
7GB/s? Get with the times, Sony!
FranXico
Member
How much does that cost, again?7GB/s? Get with the times, Sony!
Kilau
Gold Member
7GB/s? Get with the times, Sony!
ToTTenTranz
Banned
~200€ for 2TB is a steal.
If it works as advertised and these guys manage to produce in decent quantities then they'll break the market.
EDIT: forget that. The 192€ price point is for the 1TB model. Meh.
If it works as advertised and these guys manage to produce in decent quantities then they'll break the market.
EDIT: forget that. The 192€ price point is for the 1TB model. Meh.
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blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
I did wonder if Sony would bring their own SSD drive. Makes sense now why the slot isn't enabled day 1.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well some of the costs go towards that it's a faster drive as well. Don't forget that you can use it on a PC so the market wouldn't be limited to just PS5 owners.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
so, surely this is the one right?
any confirmation yet?
any confirmation yet?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Thats why I said when the NVMe update comes out....once the update is out strong chance people will test the rocket 4 plus first as its basically the posterboy for Phison E18 controller.
I didnt say buy now.
This thing is likely actually gonna cost more than the Rocket 4 Plus.
Memory is one of those weird products that starts expensive because its new.....then gets really really cheap because production has ramped up and theres basically excess stock then gets expensive again as the memory modules become a "niche" product.
Literally upgrading the RAM in a system from 2011 and a system from 2021 will either cost the same or actually be more expensive in the 2011 PC brand new.
Whenever ive upgraded older computers over the last few years ive always advised clients they need to upgrade their whole system sooner rather than later cuz they are paying the same price for 1866 RAM as any normal person would pay for 3200 RAM.
Pedro Motta
Member
And 3x as fast.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Cranking fan speed Up.
Heard this bullshit already a few times.
Like with more demanding games the fan speed will increase and getting louder. In reality the noise Levels remain the same.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
No way will 2Tb be £165 in the UK. More like £250+
Mithos
Member
A 2TB PCIE 4.0 Nvme with read/write speeds of 7gb+/5gb+ drive is like €450-500 here...
Going to be many years before a PS5 and extra storage will be affordable.
Fredrik
Member
It’s like the 1TB Xbox expansion card and still worth it since the internal drive is so small.
ZywyPL
Banned
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Ironic you choose that scene
Actually the xbox expansion solution is underpriced. Its not a normal ssd card.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Very reasonable price. I was going to look into a Samsung one but I will get that one if true.
GHG
Gold Member
Read and you shall learn:
Seagate PCIe4 next-gen storage event on 23rd June
Well good thing is they can do a system update down the road if they want to allow externals that support speeds needed. My guess is an updated Series X (Series Y?) will either support M.2 or USB ports that support external drives with fast enough read/write. I am surprised the console didn't...
For the speed of the drive and the fact that you can only ever use it in an Xbox it's overpriced.
That’s a take for sure.Read and you shall learn:
Seagate PCIe4 next-gen storage event on 23rd June
Well good thing is they can do a system update down the road if they want to allow externals that support speeds needed. My guess is an updated Series X (Series Y?) will either support M.2 or USB ports that support external drives with fast enough read/write. I am surprised the console didn't...www.neogaf.com
For the speed of the drive and the fact that you can only ever use it in an Xbox it's overpriced.
Another one is the fact that it lunched with the console and you can literally plug and play (which no ssd can do) make it a good value.
GHG
Gold Member
If in your mind "value" is the fact that something exists then I hope you were equally enthusiastic about the PS Vita memory cards.
Fredrik
Member
The 2TB variant is 442 USD if you do a direct yen to usd conversion, still just estimated retail price though.
ManaByte
Gold Member
The 2TB is more than the price of the digital PS5.
GHG
Gold Member
Ok what about the other point?
Also thats not what I meant.
I've been installing SSD's in my PC for the best part of a decade and they take no more than a couple of minutes to install.
If you don't own a screwdriver and are incapable of using one then I don't know what to say.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
I got an sn850 for about half price. Seems fairly comparable to that?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
All the final flash PCIE4 drive hit around the same speeds.
Weve all but saturated what PCIE4 can do at this point.
This drive is likely using a Phison E18 controller, unless Sony are making their own controller which would be interesting to see its sustained speeds and real world performance.
- PNY XLR8 CS3140 — 7,500MB/s reads, 6,850MB/s writes
- Adata XPG Gammix S70 — 7,400MB/s reads, 6,400MB/s writes
- Mushkin Gamma — 7,175MB/s reads, 6,800MB/s writes
- Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus — 7,100MB/s reads, 6000MB/s writes
- Samsung 980 Pro — 7,000MB/s reads, 5,000MB/s writes
- WD SN850 Black — 7,000MB/s reads, 5,300MB/s writes
- Patriot Viper VP4 — 7,400MB/s reads, 6800MB/s writes
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So the 1 TB model equates to $230 US. If that exchange holds and they dont round the US availability to $200 or $250, thats more expensive than the Seagate 1 TB Series S/X card.
So where's all the PC compatible SSDs which were supposed to lead to bargain priced SSDs for PS5 as PC gear gets price dropped fast?
So where's all the PC compatible SSDs which were supposed to lead to bargain priced SSDs for PS5 as PC gear gets price dropped fast?
Topher
Gold Member
Phison is more than likely providing the controller. Just came across this on the website. Phison owns 49% of Nextorage and Sony owns 51%.
Change in our composition of shareholders – Nextorage
As of August 1, 2020, we announce that our composition of shareholders are as follows;
www.nextorage.net
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
165 is the 1 TB converted.
rickybooby87
Member
Those prices aren't too bad, and if it works, so be it.
Topher
Gold Member
Prices can be found under $200 due to the increasing competition. Such as....
Amazon.com: PNY XLR8 CS3140 1TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - M280CS3140-1TB-RB: Computers & Accessories
Amazon.com: PNY XLR8 CS3140 1TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - M280CS3140-1TB-RB: Computers & Accessories
www.amazon.com
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nemiroff
Gold Member
Yeah I see now in the article that the 1TB version is more expensive (my currency, so this will deviate) than the SN850 that I have (same specs AFAIK). So that makes me confused, what exactly are we discussing here in this thread.
Edit: ~200 at amazon, guess I got a good deal then. But question remains.
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Werewolfgrandma
Banned
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I bet you can't do it!
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I know as a CF Express card it's not that much expensive, however as a sole expansion for native titles, I find it to be overpriced. Also small gimme 4TB version...
Fredrik
Member
I think lots of people got confused by the pic of the 2TB drive in the OP and the £165 price for the 1TB drive in the title, thinking they would get 2TB for £165.
Pricing is what it is. I still need one but I’ll go with 1TB with these prices.