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Sony Interactive Entertainment is looking for someone with Nvidia GPU and PC programming knowledge to work on The Last of Us Part II

Karak

Member
Seems too good to be true, I think it's just a fanboy wishlist. I will believe it once Sony announces it.
Not saying whether its true or not. However for the most part usually a leaker isn't aware of all games being shown and things like "reflections everywhere" plus other detailed data about other company games as well. One of the major reasons this is is because the event data will usually not be known this early in advance, trailers not done and so forth in fact many times, and this is backed up by people who have left the business, or discussed it openly like jack on IGN't interview. Even for platform info meetings when devs have discussed them after a platform is out, or people at a company, most are pretty open about the fact that since its early most of the time exact data isn't known until close to the event itself. Especially detailed.
It's like using a telescope for what a microscope does. The two views arent usually compatible.

A birds-eye view IS possible, but birds' eye with detailed data like this then becomes a very small number of people if even possible. Meaning most leakers who had that much indepth data about everything shown this early is a handfull of people.

It also states Sony will return to E3 2020 but Sony has already announced they are not.(though that might be a combined leak with another one that was already proven false. Not sure on that)
 
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Bkdk

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Great! Looks like Much needed pc version for Naughty dogs games are finally here, hope for very extensive modding support fo their uncharted and last of us games, their games need lots of mods and PC modders will help them if they support modding.
 

Grizzley Bear

Neo Member
Sony needs exclusivity to make their platform valuable.
Death Stranding is coming to PC: Was announced as a PC game initially, Makes sense need money to pay all those actors and recoup our investment

Horizon Zero Dawn is coming to PC : hmm.. Makes sensse they are bringing Decima to PC with Death Stranding why not test Horizon
Dreams is coming to PC: uh.. Makes sense that game is basically an engine and is going to need a lot of support from creators
Sony hiring programmer for Nvidia GPU's : ...Fuck it all Sony games are coming to PC.
 

meirl

Banned
Sony needs exclusivity to make their platform valuable.
Death Stranding is coming to PC: Was announced as a PC game initially, Makes sense need money to pay all those actors and recoup our investment

Horizon Zero Dawn is coming to PC : hmm.. Makes sensse they are bringing Decima to PC with Death Stranding why not test Horizon
Dreams is coming to PC: uh.. Makes sense that game is basically an engine and is going to need a lot of support from creators
Sony hiring programmer for Nvidia GPU's : ...Fuck it all Sony games are coming to PC.


Yeah. Even the new Sony Boss that their games are coming to PC.
Why can’t people understand? Stop living in denial.
start accepting it!
 
OR -- it could be that their biggest achievement ever made must be done with the best hardware they can get their hands on so they can show everyone what they REALLY can do with no hardware bottlenecks like the PS4/PS5 would give them? Just saying...
It's mindboggling that Sony's 1st Party Devs develop their games on a PC first and then port it down to their respective console.

I can see it being a harsh reality of game development, but mindboggling nonetheless.
 
inb4 Sony starts releasing everything on PC but gimp the ports

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In fairness the backlash will either scare them or they will bullheadedly push forward and receive their punishment despite the warnings.
The way that our world is nowadays ResetEra will start a campaign demonizing exclusives games under the pretext of gamers feeling opressed and offended by not being able to play what they want on the platform that they want and Sony will have to give in to the millennial victimist bandwafon
 
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Bryank75

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The way that our world is nowadays ResetEra will start a campaign demonizing exclusives games under the pretext of gamers feeling opressed and offended by not being able to play what they want on the platform that they want and Sony will have to give in to the millennial victimist bandwafon
That crowd have forgotten what consoles are all about.
 

psorcerer

Banned
Apparently you’re more worried than the people at Sony who think opening up more revenue streams for their AAA titles is a better idea than restricting them

I love the selective amnesia thing. But we all remember how well those TV, TV, TV revenue streams worked for MSFT. And here we are, another generation and another bulk of great ideas on how to bring these non-console gamers in. 😂
 

Justin9mm

Member
It's mindboggling that Sony's 1st Party Devs develop their games on a PC first and then port it down to their respective console.

I can see it being a harsh reality of game development, but mindboggling nonetheless.

What's mindboggling about it?

I think people don't really understand what game development is, games are made with an array of tools, programs / software all of which run on PC's and other devices.

You think when they develop a game for PS4, they sit there with their PS4 controller on a PS4 and program, render, design etc. ?

Porting in simple terms is just converting but I would say that when they make games these days they mainly use C++ which can output code for consoles and PC which means that there is no actual porting involved in the technical sense.
 

Grizzley Bear

Neo Member
I love the selective amnesia thing. But we all remember how well those TV, TV, TV revenue streams worked for MSFT. And here we are, another generation and another bulk of great ideas on how to bring these non-console gamers in. 😂
PC gamers are a bit different then TV watchers if thats what you're getting at.
 

nikolino840

Member
What's mindboggling about it?

I think people don't really understand what game development is, games are made with an array of tools, programs / software all of which run on PC's and other devices.

You think when they develop a game for PS4, they sit there with their PS4 controller on a PS4 and program, render, design etc. ?

Porting in simple terms is just converting but I would say that when they make games these days they mainly use C++ which can output code for consoles and PC which means that there is no actual porting involved in the technical sense.
I think he mean the irony of this
 
This was the so called "leak" on reddit earlier by the way, if true it might provide some context for this news. However it should be taken with a huge pinch of salt as always:

The event:

-The event will be held at the Sony hall theatre on the 12th of February. Expect a short teaser to come out in the next two weeks.

-The press already knows about it and they will be able to test games and write articles. There will be a lot of news and iterviews with key figures like Mark Cerny and Hermen Hulst.

-The event will be presented by Geoff Keighley and it will be a very big show. After all you have to consider that Sony has been quiet for quite sometime now.

-Sony's strategy has been that not to reveal everything in one shot. Things like price, launch date and shape of the console will still be unknown after the PS meeting.

Specs:

-CPU: 8 core/16 threads at 3.6 ghz based on a Zen 2 architecture

-GPU: "Big Navi"/RDNA1 based with some features from RDNA2 like RT and VRS, 12.2 TF at 1.8 ghz

-Memory: 18GB DDR6 at 576gb/s and 4gb of DDR4 for the OS (Sorry HBM believers)

-1 TB SSD. The SSD is a proprietary solution similar to a cartridge and you will be able to purchase them separately in a way similar to an old memory card from the PS2 era(1tb, 2tb and 3 tb variants). It is very fast: 5gb/s

-It has a separate RT core just for the audio, this is something that Cerny and the audio people at Sony (Audiokinetic) insisted on. A new headphones will be made from Sony, specifically designed for the ray traced audio in PS5 games.

-Overall, the PS5 is a much more balanced machine than the PS4 pro. This is much more important than just brute force as devs will be able squeeze much much more from the hardware.

Games:

-First game announced for the PS5 will be from Bluepoint, Demon's Souls.

The trailer will start with a dragon flying through the ruins of an ancient city before landing on a bridge destroying part of it, the camera will then move to a character in a knight armor. The dragon will spit fire at the knight that will be parrying it with his shield.

The trailer ends with a voice saying "The old one is calling for thee" revealing the Demon's souls logo, available at launch.

Very impressive tech on showcase:, RT reflection all over the knight's armor

-Ubisoft will announce their new AC title, Assasin's Creed: Kingdom. As you already know it is set in northern europe with historical and mythological elements. The trailer is not really a trailer but a long gameplay (10+ mins).

The game focuses on being a better RPG than its predecessors with multiple endings and more meaningful choices for better roleplay. Immersion is also a big focus, Ubisoft has created a believable world based on the kingdom of Ragnar Sigurdsson (better known as Lothbrok) as king of Denmark.

NPCs have realistic routines and behaviours based on multiple situations they can be found in (finding shelter from the rain, fleeing their village after a raid from enemy soldiers are some examples).

All animations have been enhanced. Now the main character (male or female like in Odyssey) moves differently based on the enviroments they are in. Animations are really similar to something you can find in a ND game with the character touching the wall at their side if they get to close it or struggling to walk through snow or mud.

As many other games, AC:Kingdom will use the haptic triggers to simulate the action of pulling the rope of a bow or swinging an heavy weapon.

There are levels, but they are handled like in Skyrim or Kingdom come where you don't require a certain level to enter an area or fight a boss. Here you can access the whole world from the start and fight all the enemies, of course it will be very hard because your character will be very unexperienced and at first they will handle certain weapons with struggle, it will get better the more they use them.

I got mentioned something about ray tracing being used to eliminate clipping of the various clothes on the character's bodies, but I don't know anything other than it may be a thing on the next gen versions of the game.

Available at launch, but after the current gen versions.

-Gran Turismo 7 will be announced featuring full VR and RT support, native 4k and 60 fps. It will be a technical showcase for the console. Available at launch.

It features a single player carreer like the old GT games and a multiplayer mode similar to the sport mode in GT sport. The partnership with the FIA continues and the one with Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes becomes even stronger (Lewis and the Mercedes brand are on the cover of the game and a big part of the single player carreer).

-New R&C game announced from Insomniac. Full RT support and sequel to the remake, but part of a new trilogy. Semi-open world with pilotable ships. It looks even more like a Pixar movie, this time on a way bigger scale. Available in 2021

-Capcom will show a demo of their updated RE engine and announce Dragon's Dogma 2 exclusively on the PS5. Deep Down was not all to waste and Capcom wisely decided to build upon it and create this new DD. It's a really impressive game technically. Full open world with fights and monsters similar to a Monster Hunter game. It will run at 60 fps on PS5.

It's unclear if the exclusivity deal has a limit or not. I'm willing to bet it will come out on Xbox Series X/S after a while

-Shuhei Yoshida will showcase lots of indies coming to PS4 and PS5 as part of the new "PS❤Indies" intiative at SIE. Games such as: Sky:children of the light, Inaka project, a new game from Jonathan Blow, Lost Soul aside and the new game from Ken Levine studio (not really an indie, but it will still be present in this short segment).

-TLOU: Factions will be revealed, coming to PS4, PS5 and PC these holidays. It is a multiplayer only title made to replace the "Factions" mode of the original TLOU. It features an open world similar to games like DayZ, but with the love and care that you can expect expect from a team like ND.

It will feature: different seasons like Forza Horizon 4 (each will come with its pros and cons), clan support, a battle pass, a fully destructible map, lots of depth for roleplay (players will be able to cover various roles in their games: doctors, bounty hunters, traders, mercenaries for the various groups of players, soldiers ecc.), the players will be able to build camps and even "addomesticate" clickers and runners. 4k/60 with RT audio on PS5 and 1080 30 on PS4/pro. Cross play is being experimented (the difference in framerate may be an issue).

-Sony reveals a new team based in San Diego and their new game, Uncharted. A sequel to U4, but with different characters and a few cameos from the old games. Just a teaser will be shown featuring exotic locations from all around the world and glimpses at veichles both aerial and terrestrial. No release date given.

-Activision announces Crash Bandicoot:worlds on PS4 and PS5 for then end of the year (think Mario galaxy, but with Crash Bandiccot) and confirms that COD will be back at the end of the year on PS5 and in partnership with PS once again.

-Square Enix shows an impressive tech demo of a new version of the luminous engine featuring RT shadows, reflections and lighting along with 4k textures and realistic facial animations. Very reminiscent of the aestethic you can find in a FF game, but no real announcement is made (for now).

-Guerilla announces Killzone: Breach. A mp only title for PS5 and PC. The influence from games like R6 can be seen a lot during the trailer. Full destructible enviroment and a "War" mode that features up to 80 players in a fully destructible arena (Remember that first Crackdown 3 demo?). Available at launch.

-Mark Cerny announces full backwards compatibility with PS4/3/2/1/VR and that PS Vita and PSP are in the works. The PS4/2/1 whole lineup will be fully compatible from launch. As for PS3 games, they will be made compatible regularly by Sony in a way similar to how Xbox already does it on Xbox One with 360 games. All the games will receive technical enhancments like 4k resolution, better AA and 60 fps. Demos for TLOU 2, RDR1, Jak 2 and the original GT are shown briefly.

-Last announcement will be a small teaser with in-game graphics of Horizon 2. The teaser shows an older Aloy meditating on the top of a Mountain before being attacked by a huge machine and hijacking a thunderbird in order to ride it and fly around the huge machine to fight it. 2021

-Please note that all games that I've listed are exclusive to the PS5 unless I've said otherwise.

-Don't expect any PSVR2 news. VR will be mentioned as you can see, but it is still a bit early for PSVR2.
Didnt The specs get put up by someone different and got called out on 4chan?
 

solarus

Member
It'll take years for them to get to console price range. Even now you aren't going to get anything close to a base PS4 at the same price.
Yup and people always seem to ignore the spec creep that happens with all pc ports as the generation drags on. You can buy a powerful GPU around the time of a new console launch that theoretically matches them on paper and find its struggling and below par 6 years down the line for the console ports.
 

RiccochetJ

Gold Member
In fairness the backlash will either scare them or they will bullheadedly push forward and receive their punishment despite the warnings.
They will realize that the majority of people don't care about platform exclusivity and will buy their excellent games regardless. They will understand that there's probably tens of thousands of you that are overly vocal and they won't care if you decide to buy/build a PC and buy their games anyways.

But let's not kid ourselves. I fully expect to see a PS5 console impressions thread here in the fall and you will be in there talking about how you managed to get it day one, extolling the virtues and elegance of how Sony created the ultimate machine, fended off the pathetic attempts of M$, and mock the PC crowd for how they have to dial in their settings to get the game to work properly on their machine ;)
 

SleepDoctor

Banned
Im just wondering if we will need to start a suicide watch here once its officially announced.

So much fud was thrown at ms over this shit and now you reap what you sow. That brand loyalty shit been stupid. Sony/ms will do what they want regardless. Competition makes it better tho, we could be in a worse situation without one of them.
 

Dacon

Banned
Sony needs exclusivity to make their platform valuable.

Hahahaha no they don't.

You brand slaves are wild. People who have been gaming on consoles their whole lives for a fraction of the cost of high end pc gaming aren't suddenly going to jump ship for pc gaming.

A lot of the benefits of pc gaming are lost on gaming normies to begin with, and are mostly of interest to enthusiasts.

Sony has nothing to lose from selling more games. The amount of doomsaying from butthurt fanboys and brand loyalists is pretty hilarious.

This shit hasnt even been confirmed by any official source and people are LOSING it already lmao.
 
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mckmas8808

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makes sense, we all know that the sony exclusive games are coming to PC now. I will happily. Get a complete edition, with all the patches, all the DLCs at a fraction of the cost of the PS version and can even play it on the highest res possible with a stable framerate. ☺

I guess you'll get it in 2023 then.

Im just wondering if we will need to start a suicide watch here once its officially announced.

So much fud was thrown at ms over this shit and now you reap what you sow. That brand loyalty shit been stupid. Sony/ms will do what they want regardless. Competition makes it better tho, we could be in a worse situation without one of them.

Why would anybody be upset with MS over making their games on PC? The only issue I have with it is if Sony wanted to make their 1st party exclusives day and date with the PC release. I DON'T want that. But if it comes out a year later or so, why should I care? It's cool with me. Get that money.
 
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SleepDoctor

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I guess you'll get it in 2023 then.



Why would anybody be upset with MS over making their games on PC? The only issue I have with it is if Sony wanted to make their 1st party exclusives day and date with the PC release. I DON'T want that. But if it comes out a year later or so, why should I care? It's cool with me. Get that money.


Unfortunately thats not how everyone feels tho lol
 

Grizzley Bear

Neo Member
Hahahaha no they don't.

You brand slaves are wild. People who have been gaming on consoles their whole lives for a fraction of the cost of high end pc gaming aren't suddenly going to jump ship for pc gaming.

A lot of the benefits of pc gaming are lost on gaming normies to begin with, and are mostly of interest to enthusiasts.

Sony has nothing to lose from selling more games. The amount of doomsaying from butthurt fanboys and brand loyalists is pretty hilarious.

This shit hasnt even been confirmed by any official source and people are LOSING it already lmao.
Read the rest of my comment I was listing excuses for why Sony might not bedoing this and then i threw them all away.
 

Grizzley Bear

Neo Member
I don't think MSFT brought in any TV watches. But damn sure they did alienate a good bulk of their core demographic. And the result was a total Sony domination.
That still isn't the same thing. Microsoft threw games on the back burner to talk about TV stuff Sony's just porting a few games they're not gonna stop making great ones.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives

Because there's been a 30-year history that shows us that devs that make games for one system, tend to get the most out of the system. And the games tend to be better overall too. I like how Kojima did it with Death Stranding. The PC version was being worked on, but clearly 95% of their attention was to get the PS4 version "right".
 

Dacon

Banned
Supporting more platforms = less effort per platform.

Citation needed. Reads like more brand loyalism nonsense.

Two of my favorite games of the last 10 years are multiplat, and two of my biggest disappointments are exclusives.

A game being multiplatform has no overrall bearing on a game's quality if the team making it is good. Especially if the game is only on pc besides its console counterpart, you know, the platform every game is built on to begin with.
 
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Ryu Kaiba

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Because there's been a 30-year history that shows us that devs that make games for one system, tend to get the most out of the system. And the games tend to be better overall too. I like how Kojima did it with Death Stranding. The PC version was being worked on, but clearly 95% of their attention was to get the PS4 version "right".
And you think Sony isn't going to put PS4 first??
 

psorcerer

Banned
Citation needed. Reads like more brand loyalism nonsense.

Two of my favorite games of the last 10 years are multiplat, and two of my biggest disappointments are exclusives.

A game being multiplatform has no overrall bearing on a game's quality if the team making it is good. Especially if the game is only on pc besides its console counterpart, you know, the platform every game is built on to begin with.

The favourite games of people are CoDs it seems. I suppose everybody should stop and make only shooters from now on!
Obviously multiplatform game is reducing the time that is spent on the game. You will need abstractions, engines and all other crap that comes with the platform support.
People who never shipped a product (even non-game) for multiple platforms are clueless it seems...
 
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