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Cringe Sony Is Being Defensive With The PS5 – And That Is A Smart Move

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Tell your customers that they get free next gen patches for the coming titles and that is not keeping you from revealing your next console.
What patches? Youre talking about the cp2077 patch right? What do you think its going to be besides some resolution bump? Having patches to older games is not something thats anywhere near the bottom of the list of priorities I have regarding next gen.

If next gen can run last gen games, that is something thats probably going to happen anyway. And if not, I don't really care.
 

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Sony possibly has only 9.2TF RDNA 1(+?)

Yeah, I’d agree that “offensive” would be a bad way to go. 😂
 
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Er I hate to point out it wasn’t the fans that revealed the XSX
As far as I'm concerned Series X's hardware has not been revealed...….They are just drip feeding bits to see if Sony will say something, but MS should realize right now Sony never beats to MS's tune, they beat to their own....


A hardware spec reveal needs:

GPU: clocks, architecture, custom engineering details, enhanced GPU features.

CPU: clocks, architecture, how does it more efficiently connect to the CPU.

RAM: How much, Speed of Ram, Ram Type..... Custom engineering, how does the CPU, GPU+MEM communicate.

Storage: HD type, Size, Speed, features....

Controller: Design, ergonomics, are we still asymmetrical beings? New features (audio jack, lcd screen, accessing the store, what?)

OS: New features, Speed, Dashboard Resolution, Apps, How many can stay in memory, Remote Play, Shareplay, Media button..

RT Feature: How good is it, Sound? How good is it..


Then finally Games, Show what that hardware can do and blow people's minds.....Which is the main way people can understand what all those hardware details mean.....Show them..



Unless MS tells me how much memory, what the clocks are, what their Raytracing and sound solutions are, they have said nothing at all....They are just playing a game to see if Sony reveals more...


I'm so happy on Sony's approach, reveal nothing, let them go insane in the mind thinking what Sony has under the hood in terms of specs and features......Concentrate on PS4 for now, cause PS4's biggest software year is it's last.....Think about that.....The only reason XBOX fans are so much interested in the Series X and moreso the console that obliterated XBOX this gen is because they fear the inevitable.....This is not Sony's first Rodeo......I also understand, why Sony fans are not so perturbed.....Whilst XBOX first party has run dry, PS fans are gearing for the biggest year....I could see why X-fans are more interested in hearing about PS5 at this point, but PS fans are just interested in playing some GOTY's; LOU2, Tsushima, Dreams, FF7......…When we are done with that goodness, Sony can unleash the motherlode, which we will buy day 1......
 
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As far as I'm concerned Series X's hardware has not been revealed...….They are just drip feeding bits to see if Sony will say something, but MS should realize right now Sony never beats to MS's tune, they beat to their own....


A hardware spec reveal needs:

GPU: clocks, architecture, custom engineering details, enhanced GPU features.

CPU: clocks, architecture, how does it more efficiently connect to the CPU.

RAM: How much, Speed of Ram, Ram Type..... Custom engineering, how does the CPU, GPU+MEM communicate.

Storage: HD type, Size, Speed, features....

Controller: Design, ergonomics, are we still asymmetrical beings? New features (audio jack, lcd screen, accessing the store, what?)

OS: New features, Speed, Dashboard Resolution, Apps, How many can stay in memory, Remote Play, Shareplay, Media button..

RT Feature: How good is it, Sound? How good is it..


Then finally Games, Show what that hardware can do and blow people's minds.....Which is the main way people can understand what all those hardware details mean.....Show them..



Unless MS tells me how much memory, what the clocks are, what their Raytracing and sound solutions are, they have said nothing at all....They are just playing a game to see if Sony reveals more...


I'm so happy on Sony's approach, reveal nothing, let them go insane in the mind thinking what Sony has under the hood in terms of specs and features......Concentrate on PS4 for now, cause PS4's biggest software year is it's last.....Think about that.....The only reason XBOX fans are so much interested in the Series X and moreso the console that obliterated XBOX this gen is because they fear the inevitable.....This is not Sony's first Rodeo......I also understand, why Sony fans are not so perturbed.....Whilst XBOX first party has run dry, PS fans are gearing for the biggest year....I could see why X-fans are more interested in hearing about PS5 at this point, but PS fans are just interested in playing some GOTY's; LOU2, Tsushima, Dreams, FF7......…When we are done with that goodness, Sony can unleash the motherlode, which we will buy day 1......
Coarse you are happy with sonys approach. Keep the fans in the dark, Microsoft has firmly came out and revealed specs of the machine. The things coming out at the moment about sony ain’t positive. They struggling with price, they waiting for Microsoft to reveal price befor they confirm their price. None of this is good for the brand they need to come out and show their hand and give their fans something to be excited about. What was the last major AAA Sony released from in house?

they are no showing at E3 they have cancelled another game show to, they need positive news and even you with your blinkered vision can see this to
 

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The only reason MS jumped the gun with the next gen talk is because Sony are absolutely dominating them and they want this gen over ASAP. There's no reason why Sony should have to follow. FF7, TLOU2, Dreams and Ghost of Tsushima. With exclusives like that coming to ps4 this year you can't blame them for waiting.
 

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Considering the virus and all the cancellations left/right, can't put that on an individual.
You don't believe him and that's fine.
But they can do something still, a pr video showing something is better than nothing
 

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that was because xbox was +$100 more expensive AND even weaker!

if xbox series X is the same price and more powerful than $399 won't help much.
Yes, but I think that might be why Sony targeted late 2019 originally. They knew Microsoft couldn't release a next gen console two years after Xbox One X. So 2020 was always the target for Microsoft. By going a year early Sony could have already built an install base and even cut the price if Xbox arrives and targets the same price.
 

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As far as I'm concerned Series X's hardware has not been revealed...….They are just drip feeding bits to see if Sony will say something, but MS should realize right now Sony never beats to MS's tune, they beat to their own....


A hardware spec reveal needs:

GPU: clocks, architecture, custom engineering details, enhanced GPU features.

CPU: clocks, architecture, how does it more efficiently connect to the CPU.

RAM: How much, Speed of Ram, Ram Type..... Custom engineering, how does the CPU, GPU+MEM communicate.

Storage: HD type, Size, Speed, features....

Controller: Design, ergonomics, are we still asymmetrical beings? New features (audio jack, lcd screen, accessing the store, what?)

OS: New features, Speed, Dashboard Resolution, Apps, How many can stay in memory, Remote Play, Shareplay, Media button..

RT Feature: How good is it, Sound? How good is it..


Then finally Games, Show what that hardware can do and blow people's minds.....Which is the main way people can understand what all those hardware details mean.....Show them..



Unless MS tells me how much memory, what the clocks are, what their Raytracing and sound solutions are, they have said nothing at all....They are just playing a game to see if Sony reveals more...


I'm so happy on Sony's approach, reveal nothing, let them go insane in the mind thinking what Sony has under the hood in terms of specs and features......Concentrate on PS4 for now, cause PS4's biggest software year is it's last.....Think about that.....The only reason XBOX fans are so much interested in the Series X and moreso the console that obliterated XBOX this gen is because they fear the inevitable.....This is not Sony's first Rodeo......I also understand, why Sony fans are not so perturbed.....Whilst XBOX first party has run dry, PS fans are gearing for the biggest year....I could see why X-fans are more interested in hearing about PS5 at this point, but PS fans are just interested in playing some GOTY's; LOU2, Tsushima, Dreams, FF7......…When we are done with that goodness, Sony can unleash the motherlode, which we will buy day 1......

"As far as I'm concerned Series X's hardware has not been revealed...…"

All I could read before laughing my ass off 🤣🤣🤣.

I genuinely feel sorry for some of you.
 

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RIP PS5, we never knew ye
No death just a huge no show at the moment , despite what SOME people are saying on here fans want to see what they are going to buy and invest in but Sony doesn’t want fans to see.....yet or they hiding somethinf
 

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"As far as I'm concerned Series X's hardware has not been revealed...…"

All I could read before laughing my ass off 🤣🤣🤣.

I genuinely feel sorry for some of you.
Fanboys always be fanboys. They be the ones hit hardest if the rumours are true of under powered console. I expect the consoles to be close in powder though
 
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No death just a huge no show at the moment , despite what SOME people are saying on here fans want to see what they are going to buy and invest in but Sony doesn’t want fans to see.....yet or they hiding somethinf
Lets be honest here mate. PS will sell no matter what and we both know that
 

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What patches? Youre talking about the cp2077 patch right? What do you think its going to be besides some resolution bump? Having patches to older games is not something thats anywhere near the bottom of the list of priorities I have regarding next gen.

If next gen can run last gen games, that is something thats probably going to happen anyway. And if not, I don't really care.
I am expecting that patch to add 60 fps and raytracing, It's targeting 4K/30 on One X.
 
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We just don't know why Sony hasn't revealed more info on ps5, so guessing is useless. It's based on no evidence , so it's pointless.

I mean you can come up with any reasons you like, it is just guessing. Right now, my 🐈 opinion is just as valid.

However waiting for the competition to show price does show a lack of confidence, Sony should know what price there console is good value for gamers, the fact that they are waiting for ms shows a lack of confidence which is never good in business.
A rare glimpse of common sense on the internet!
 

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Lets be honest here mate. PS will sell no matter what and we both know that
Possibly, nobody thought the 360 would sell as it did and that can be repeated. The thing is people talk like the Xbox one was a massive failur. It sold over 50 million, that’s a huge amount. Now compared to PS4 yeah it’s a failure but it still sold a shed ton
 

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All Sony needs to do is show some prerendered "gameplay" before launch, drop some buzzwords and the masses will buy that shit.
Dont drop us that bulshit

Even on its last leg Sony still providing top game for PS4 meanwhile Ms seems to be giving up already on Xbox One

Their trust is earned through years of generations



 
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ok, now tell me a single AAA exclusive game to PS5 only within the first year. Tell me.

I think and according to jim ryan we will have the PS4 as the center and "engine" of sony, so I think for the first couple of years there will be PS4/PS5 AAA exclusive games!
We will only have small budget games that will be PS5 only, but not big and costly AAA games.

Sony Playstation 4: "Will remain the engine of engagement and profitability for the next three years"

see here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjE4-CCwOznAhU9SRUIHYkABlwQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0nEXG18bXS_KJFy28UVwKT

but proof me otherwise please. thanks
Who said anything about AAA games?
All I said was 1st party PS5 exclusives, nothing more.

You can betcha that Sony will have 1st party PS5 exclusives to show when properly announcing PS5, to tease what we can expect.
Whether that is AAA-worthy or not is completely irrelevant.

And PS4 being the main source of income is a given. The same applied to PS2 when PS3 launched and PS3 when PS4 launched.
That's how generational transitions work.
But I don't expect that needs explanatikn, right?

Ofoucrse that happened.
But the masses don't care, "bruh". 6ou talk about me spinning, but everybody here knows that those complaining are mostly the vocal minority.
The masses only care to know that PS5 has once again been confirmed.
And most people making fun of it (I was one of them btw 😉) were making light of the situation and any rational person just took it for what it was.


nah, not true. third party deves can create xbox series x eclusive games! this was only for xbox studio games.
also what exclusive games for PS5 have been announced? dont talk about godfall lol horrible game xD also, exclusive games dont matter that much if ALL multiplatform games run and look better on xbox and if xbox even gives them to you FOR FREE if you bought it previously.. we dont even know if sony allows that.

bruh, dial it back a little bit, you are making a fool out of yourself with all this spinning
Meant to say 1st party exclusives, but whatever.

Keep telling yourself exclusives don't matter though, those are exactly why PS4 and Switch outsell Xbox One and will continue to do so next-gen.
I'm not the one spinning.
 

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As far as I'm concerned Series X's hardware has not been revealed...….They are just drip feeding bits to see if Sony will say something, but MS should realize right now Sony never beats to MS's tune, they beat to their own....


A hardware spec reveal needs:

GPU: clocks, architecture, custom engineering details, enhanced GPU features.

CPU: clocks, architecture, how does it more efficiently connect to the CPU.

RAM: How much, Speed of Ram, Ram Type..... Custom engineering, how does the CPU, GPU+MEM communicate.

Storage: HD type, Size, Speed, features....

Controller: Design, ergonomics, are we still asymmetrical beings? New features (audio jack, lcd screen, accessing the store, what?)

OS: New features, Speed, Dashboard Resolution, Apps, How many can stay in memory, Remote Play, Shareplay, Media button..

RT Feature: How good is it, Sound? How good is it..


Then finally Games, Show what that hardware can do and blow people's minds.....Which is the main way people can understand what all those hardware details mean.....Show them..



Unless MS tells me how much memory, what the clocks are, what their Raytracing and sound solutions are, they have said nothing at all....They are just playing a game to see if Sony reveals more...


I'm so happy on Sony's approach, reveal nothing, let them go insane in the mind thinking what Sony has under the hood in terms of specs and features......Concentrate on PS4 for now, cause PS4's biggest software year is it's last.....Think about that.....The only reason XBOX fans are so much interested in the Series X and moreso the console that obliterated XBOX this gen is because they fear the inevitable.....This is not Sony's first Rodeo......I also understand, why Sony fans are not so perturbed.....Whilst XBOX first party has run dry, PS fans are gearing for the biggest year....I could see why X-fans are more interested in hearing about PS5 at this point, but PS fans are just interested in playing some GOTY's; LOU2, Tsushima, Dreams, FF7......…When we are done with that goodness, Sony can unleash the motherlode, which we will buy day 1......
You're obviously on something 😂
 

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As far as I'm concerned Series X's hardware has not been revealed...….They are just drip feeding bits to see if Sony will say something, but MS should realize right now Sony never beats to MS's tune, they beat to their own....


A hardware spec reveal needs:

GPU: clocks, architecture, custom engineering details, enhanced GPU features.

CPU: clocks, architecture, how does it more efficiently connect to the CPU.

RAM: How much, Speed of Ram, Ram Type..... Custom engineering, how does the CPU, GPU+MEM communicate.

Storage: HD type, Size, Speed, features....

Controller: Design, ergonomics, are we still asymmetrical beings? New features (audio jack, lcd screen, accessing the store, what?)

OS: New features, Speed, Dashboard Resolution, Apps, How many can stay in memory, Remote Play, Shareplay, Media button..

RT Feature: How good is it, Sound? How good is it..


Then finally Games, Show what that hardware can do and blow people's minds.....Which is the main way people can understand what all those hardware details mean.....Show them..



Unless MS tells me how much memory, what the clocks are, what their Raytracing and sound solutions are, they have said nothing at all....They are just playing a game to see if Sony reveals more...


I'm so happy on Sony's approach, reveal nothing, let them go insane in the mind thinking what Sony has under the hood in terms of specs and features......Concentrate on PS4 for now, cause PS4's biggest software year is it's last.....Think about that.....The only reason XBOX fans are so much interested in the Series X and moreso the console that obliterated XBOX this gen is because they fear the inevitable.....This is not Sony's first Rodeo......I also understand, why Sony fans are not so perturbed.....Whilst XBOX first party has run dry, PS fans are gearing for the biggest year....I could see why X-fans are more interested in hearing about PS5 at this point, but PS fans are just interested in playing some GOTY's; LOU2, Tsushima, Dreams, FF7......…When we are done with that goodness, Sony can unleash the motherlode, which we will buy day 1......
Are you OK there, buddy?
 
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Regardless of what their strategy is, or how it'll work out for them, and for the industry as a whole. As far as what they're doing at this moment in time, I don't give a flying fuck about the PS5. I'm not even really hyped for Xbox Series X, especially with that god awful name, so this isn't some console fanboy reaction. I'm having a hard time articulating my thoughts on the topic, because PS4 still has the games I want to play, so I find myself begrudgingly hanging on to the system even though I have not been happy with their attitude towards the games I like, and the lack of value they seem to care about offering the consumer.

Microsoft fucked up big time with the release of Xbox One, and I think Phil Spencer has been doing a hell of a job trying to wipe that slate clean by increasing the potential value of Xbox with how great things like backward compatibility works, and services like Game Pass. I personally am not crazy about something like Game Pass because I like to own my games, but the BC stuff is nothing short of beautiful on their part. They don't force to you to rebuy the games to play them, you can take your 15+ year old Xbox original game, pop it in and still play it in beautiful 4k. THAT is value, where as Sony has been doing nothing since PS3 but try to get people to rebuy games they already fucking own. PS3 had BC initially, but then eventually they started making PS2 games only playable if you rebought them as PS2 classics. Then they didn't even let people who bought PS2 games on the PS3 an option to download them for PS4, and expected people to buy them YET AGAIN. Rumors are that maybe BC will be better on PS5, but they haven't proven themselves reliable in that department yet.

As someone who loves quirky Japanese games, I have not been happy with Sony's double standards regarding censorship. Specially going after Japanese games only, and it's not just doing it for potential characters that are minors, but games that contain adults. Fuck them for that, and I'm just tired of it. I like boobs, and I like pervy games because I honestly get a good laugh out of them. It's not even like we get nudity in these games, it's just typical anime trope stuff usually, and yet Sony feels it's their place to step and say "this outfit is too revealing" or some shit like that. Meanwhile, I bet they'll proudly show off some lesbian sex scene in The Last of Us Part 2. A lot of games I play aren't affected by these restrictions Sony has done, but the fact that it's there, and they enforce, while having double standards for western games just pisses me off. It becomes more about me not wanting to give them my money if this is how they're going to be.

I was already invested in the PS4 before this became a big issue, but with the release of a new generation of hardware, and the expectation to transition over, they have done nothing to try and win me over so far. Maybe they don't have to, in fact it's very likely they don't. I'm just stating my opinion on the matter, and that going forward, I will finally stop buying their shit. I've been happier with my Switch because of it's portable nature, and clear message of anti-censorship, so I might just stick with that while everyone buys new hardware this year.
 
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Possibly, nobody thought the 360 would sell as it did and that can be repeated. The thing is people talk like the Xbox one was a massive failur. It sold over 50 million, that’s a huge amount. Now compared to PS4 yeah it’s a failure but it still sold a shed ton
Yeah that I'll never understand. People talk about the Xbox like if they never turned around their garbage launch

They talk like if the X1X doesn't exist. It baffles me how people just wanna bash the Xbox while making sense or not

Are you OK there, buddy?
No he isn't. Anything not Sony to him is forbidden! I believe he got stocks there and washes their HQ toilets every weekend to make sure they're safe

Imagine questioning someone when your beloved company didn't provide you with anything. Thats the definition of hysteria and butthurt

Waste of time mate so don't bother.
 

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Sony know that all they have to do is roll out another clip of Stabby Dyke (The Last of Us 2) and their fans will cream themselves.
This is another one of your dailly dose of shitposting and constant whinning lullaby

Dont pretend and play the victim card next time the mod drop another warning on you
 
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I've never had a single warning.

Also, don't take jokes about corperations personally. You owe them nothing. Relax and enjoy life.
You already did before( having conversation with a mod about your behavior)

Dont even try to lie about it
 
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They would be crazy to wait until E3... You will be giving free headlines to Microsoft and Xbox if they keep giving more and more information until their own event.
So?? What would the headlines achieve this far out from release? Fanboy kudos?
 

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Yeah that I'll never understand. People talk about the Xbox like if they never turned around their garbage launch

They talk like if the X1X doesn't exist. It baffles me how people just wanna bash the Xbox while making sense or not


No he isn't. Anything not Sony to him is forbidden! I believe he got stocks there and washes their HQ toilets every weekend to make sure they're safe

Imagine questioning someone when your beloved company didn't provide you with anything. Thats the definition of hysteria and butthurt

Waste of time mate so don't bother.
the next gen is a complete reset where anything can happen.sony killed it this gen for sure but it’s not like Microsoft just sat there taking it, the X is amazing.
anything can happen games wise to, Microsoft invested in studios, they could churn out amazing games or be lacklustre.

sony had some amazing games this gen but that doesn’t guarantee quality next gen, if they do bring their A game which I expect then Microsoft could surprise everybody with their own quality AAA new ip’s. Basically nobody knows anything yet
 

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For a product that doesn't exist yet and people will forget about in a month yes I am.
This doesn't make sense. Everyone are anticipating the new generation since its at the end of the current year

So may I know what will make people "forget about it in a month"?
 

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You already did before( having conversation with a mod about your behavior)

Dont even try to lie about it
You're the one lying. I have literally never been given a warning since I joined this site :messenger_grinning_smiling: (I've had one post deleted for derailing. That's it. No warning. Nothing).

I'm sorry that I poked fun at your Japanse company, but good lord, get over it.
 

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This doesn't make sense. Everyone are anticipating the new generation since its at the end of the current year

So may I know what will make people "forget about it in a month"?
I mean about the headline and the product wouldn't be on peoples minds unless it is constantly headlining. When do you start marketing? 6 months from launch, a year, 2 years? Usually you do it close to release 6 months is said to be optimal otherwise what's the point when nobody can buy it yet and can quickly forget the stupid dripfeed headlines?
 

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You're the one lying. I have literally never been given a warning since I joined this site :messenger_grinning_smiling: (I've had one post deleted for derailing. That's it. No warning. Nothing).

I'm sorry that I poked fun at your Japanse company, but good lord, get over it.
Im here to tell you that us at Neogaf is trying to make a hospitable place for everyone

Making it a safe and comfortable place to discuss about games and others

And part of doing that is by getting rid of anoying nuissance post that makes absolutely no sense, like you did earlier

Trolling certainly isnt welcomed

Dont you agree?
 
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Im here to tell you that us at Neogaf is trying to make a hospitable place for everyone

Making it a safe and comfortable place to discuss about games and others

Trolling certainly isnt welcomed

Dont you agree?
Yet people fight all the time and make it personal over fucking plastic

I'd take trolling in having fun intention rather than seeing the same people fighting each other and always derailing threads

I can't understand why its tough for some people to accept that people CAN like things other than what they like

Current GAF sounds 2006 which is disgusting. We're in 2020 ffs
 
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Look, Microsoft decided to start giving out info earlier. It doesn't have to mean SONY is unsure of themselves or is waiting for a checkmate move. They probably decided on when they wanna do their own reveal and everything happening now has nothing to do with their own date.

These are big marketing decisions. Its not like all the higher up executives follow the news and decide on a whim "hey fuck our plans we have to go out now". Not everything has to be push and pull. Each company has their own strategy. Actually its better they both dont announce details so close to each other, let each company have their shine then you the consumer decide.
Sony actually started giving info earlier via the wire article and Microsoft following big brother copied tht wire article almost verbatim just as an announcement. Sony is following their own timing and strategy and its working. All 👀👀👀👀on them 😁
 
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