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Sony PS4 dev kit FCC filing shows off extra ports, 2.75GHz max clock frequency

Sony proudly showed off its PlayStation 4 hardware for the first time at E3, and now we're getting a peek at what developers are working with this generation thanks to the FCC. The DUH-D1000AA prototype Development Kit for PS4 is listed in these documents, tested for its Bluetooth and 802.11 b/g/n WiFi radios. As one would expect, the diagrams show it eschews the sleek design of the consumer model for extra cooling, a shape made for rack mounts plus extra indicator lights and ports. Also of note is a "max clock frequency" listing of 2.75GHz, and although we don't know how fast the game system will run by default, it's interesting to hear what all that silicon may be capable of (as a commenter points out below, that may relate to the system's 8GB of GDDR5 RAM) while maintaining a temperature between 5 and 35 degrees celsius. Hit the link below to check out the documents for yourself, after seeing this and the system's controller become a part of the FCC's database all we're left waiting for is Mark Cerny's baby.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/16/sony-ps4-development-kit-fcc/

 

[Durante]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=624336
(The extra USB port in this title is a good addition, but the clock frequency will just confuse people -- it's not a CPU clock)

 

[Stimpack]

I love ports! and this was just a little late, apparently.

 

[DieH@rd]

And here is the picture of the devkit itself, it can also briefly be seen in the QuanticDream office visit video somebody made few months ago.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

What does the clock speed relate to?

 

[amstradcpc]

What does the clock speed relate to?

GDDR5.

 

[ElTorro]

What does the clock speed relate to?

Maximum theoretical radio emission frequency of all embedded radio devices (WLAN, bluetooh, etc.). It's a document for the FCC after all. Has nothing to do with silicon clock speeds.

 

[DieH@rd]

So... no two WiFi modules.

 

[Toxa]

so the CPU is beefier ... ?

 

[DieH@rd]

so the CPU is beefier ... ?

Nope.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Maximum theoretical radio emission frequency of all embedded radio devices (WLAN, bluetooh, etc.). It's a document for the FCC after all. Has nothing to do with silicon clock speeds.

Ah, thanks. I didn't think it was an 'actual' increase. It just seems too big a jump, but it's good to know so that I don't make myself look silly over this

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

So... no two WiFi modules.

Were two rumored?

 

[Eusis]

Were two rumored?

I believe it might be necessary for lag free (or close enough) Vita streaming. Need to see if the Wii U has one.

 

[nubbe]

BD-XL and .11AC plzzz

 

[Ricerocket]

Only 5-35c for operating temp? If 35 is the highest it will go then... that's not even hot at all. No wonder they can go small on the form factor from the get go.

 

[Raist]

Only 5-35c for operating temp? If 35 is the highest it will go then... that's not even hot at all. No wonder they can go small on the form factor from the get go.

That's ambient temp, not inside the console

 

[Moral Panic]

Isn't operating temperature the temperature (of the room) it is designed to operate at?

 

[Templar_Dante]

GDDR5.

wow.

 

[Raist]

I thought GDDR5 was 1.25 and 2.5GHz anyway?

 

[Dommel]

Why does a devkit need FCC approval?

 

[McHuj]

Why does a devkit need FCC approval?

I'm wondering that too. Perhaps they're going to sell them publicly. That would be awesome. It would be expensive, but anyone could develop for the PS4 then.

 

[aeolist]

no 5ghz wifi is pretty dumb

it's super cheap to add, gotta save that $1 per unit

 

[Halvie]

no 5ghz wifi is pretty dumb

it's super cheap to add, gotta save that $1 per unit

Do we know if xbox one will have it?

 

[aeolist]

Do we know if xbox one will have it?

yeah it looks like they're going 1x1 dual band 802.11n

Xbox One is equipped with a gigabit Ethernet port and 802.11n wireless. With 802.11n, Xbox One can use the 5GHz wireless band which eliminates considerable interference from other devices in the home, such as cordless phones, Bluetooth devices and microwaves. Xbox One uses two wireless antennas, versus one in Xbox 360. This provides dramatically better coverage and sustained performance, which means faster internet speeds in more areas of your home.

 

[Respawn]

Thread title needs to be updated.

 

[Twinduct]

no 5ghz wifi is pretty dumb

it's super cheap to add, gotta save that $1 per unit

Does the vita even support 5ghz?

 

[RibbedHero]

Does the vita even support 5ghz?

Vita isn't the only thing the PS4 will connect to.

 

[Bluekaveli]

GDDR5.

I lol'ed

 

[Mr Swine]

no 5ghz wifi is pretty dumb

it's super cheap to add, gotta save that $1 per unit

Wow Sony is sure cheap when it comes to Wifi :/ if Xbone has it then why can't PS4? Even smartphones have 5ghz wifi...

 

[Twinduct]

Vita isn't the only thing the PS4 will connect to.

Man ... I could have sworn I saw him mentioning the Vita in his post .... what's wrong with me.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Not much news here.

 

[The Faceless Master]

no 5ghz wifi is pretty dumb

it's super cheap to add, gotta save that $1 per unit

indeed. bean counters going "we save millions" ruining shit for consumers.

 

[dragonbane]

Here is how the old devkit looked like from the back (Quantic Dream's office):

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

No wireless N???? your kidding me right? It's 2013 Jesus sony

 

[DESTROYA]

And here is the picture of the devkit itself, it can also briefly be seen in the QuanticDream office visit video somebody made few months ago.

This still looks better than the Xbone!

 

[grap3fruitman]

Why does a devkit need FCC approval?

Because it emits radio frequencies and will be used in the US?

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

This still looks better than the Xbone!

lol, No

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

No wireless N???? your kidding me right? It's 2013 Jesus sony

Vita has it, I'm pretty damn sure ps4 will.

 

[No_Style]

no 5ghz wifi is pretty dumb

it's super cheap to add, gotta save that $1 per unit

Maybe this is just for dev kits...? I want to believe!

No wireless N???? your kidding me right? It's 2013 Jesus sony

802.11n is there. Unfortunately it's just for 2.4 GHz band.

 

[velociraptor]

This still looks better than the Xbone!

Now you're just trolling.

 

[gofreak]

The official spec lists IEEE 802.11 b/g/n

Dev kits may be another matter.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

No wireless N???? your kidding me right? It's 2013 Jesus sony

It's been known to support N since the spec sheet came out.

 

[DrFunk]

Why does a devkit need FCC approval?

Any electronic device designed for operation needs FCC approval, to make sure it doesn't cause interference with other devices.

 

[nofi]

The official spec lists IEEE 802.11 b/g/n

Dev kits may be another matter.

Yep, PS4 has wireless N.

 

[Recon_NL]

No wireless N???? your kidding me right? It's 2013 Jesus sony

Just open your eyes:

 

[mocoworm]

Thread title needs to be updated.

THIS ^ ^ ^

 

[BradleyLove]

Dev kits single band, production version dual band?

 

[Interfectum]

Just open your eyes:

Why should people open their eyes and read stuff? It's so much easier to rage and post garbage.

 

[Recon_NL]

Dev kits single band, production version dual band?

Quick, tweet Yoshida

 

[Shin]

There were different Dev-kits, like 3 of them or something according to VGLeaks.
Wasn't the final Dev-kit supposed to be shipped this month or the next, if so this might have been an old one?

I wouldn't read too much into it, or maybe someone should ask Shuhei about the wireless capabilities and/or frequencies.