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Sony Sending Out Invites for Firmware 6.10 Beta
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Whaaaa, first charge free?
TacosNSalsa
Member
There are a lot "may" s associated with this..good luck to those that go through with it!
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jshackles
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That seems like a huge number of disclaimers for stuff that they should have had sorted out by now. I'd normally say "well it's probably because it's just beta software" but I know Sony well enough to know this is 100% going into the final product.
I don't usually worry too much about the beta warnings, but this one is a little bit concerning. If I lose access to progress or content for an old game no biggie. But if its a game in the current rotation, that would suck.
DonF
Member
they said that old games might have issues with online, but new games should work 100% and have 0 issues. its part of the newish sdk
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michaelius
Banned
I really would love to know what kind of mess is there that changing name might create problems in games.
I have a suspicion that it might be a case of someone making account name column primary key and now they are too afraid to touch it so instead they added an allias collumn and under the hood our account will be the same - just what is displayed will change.
I have a suspicion that it might be a case of someone making account name column primary key and now they are too afraid to touch it so instead they added an allias collumn and under the hood our account will be the same - just what is displayed will change.
actually i think that is exactly what the problem is, also pretty sure some people that have had contact with sony have said the same. the problem with just changing what is displayed, is that every game deals with displaying the name their own way. So every game that is already out would have to change it if they added a column, as would everything going forward.
Blam
Member
They wouldn't be able to sort it out lol they hardcoded your current id as the one on their own database it seems and so did a bunch of fukin devs lmao.
Like I said last time.
Whomever made this online database should have seriously considered a GUID like xbox and not your actual username.
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Fbh
Member
This is definitely the one Ps4 feature so far that will need extensive beta testing.
With all of those warnings I'd only jump in if my earlier username was absolutely horrible. There needs to be an extensive list of what content actually breaks, the way it's written now it sounds like pretty much anything could stop working and they would be like "well the warning said you could lose access to content"
With all of those warnings I'd only jump in if my earlier username was absolutely horrible. There needs to be an extensive list of what content actually breaks, the way it's written now it sounds like pretty much anything could stop working and they would be like "well the warning said you could lose access to content"
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Petrae
Member
The complaining from those who go through with the ID change and lose stuff they paid for, despite Sony warning them that it might happen, will be glorious.
If you decide to be a guinea pig, despite the disclaimer and warnings, some of the blame winds up on you for going through with it.
If you decide to be a guinea pig, despite the disclaimer and warnings, some of the blame winds up on you for going through with it.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
Wow that's really messed up if you loose stuff. They didn't set this up correctly at all.
kingwingin
Member
id risk it, sony send me an invite
DigitalScrap
Member
I'm glad they finally hired a DBA.
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bitbydeath
Member
Sounds awful.
It sounds safer to create a brand new account than trying to rename one.
On top of potentially losing everything your old ID may still show up in some games too.
Sony shouldn't release this.
It sounds safer to create a brand new account than trying to rename one.
On top of potentially losing everything your old ID may still show up in some games too.
Sony shouldn't release this.
TacosNSalsa
Member
I got in and I'm scared to use it..lol.. I don't have a ton of stuff but I'd be beyond pissed if I lost access to any of it because of this . I also have no interest in changing my name
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FranXico
Member
They really didn't prepare for this fix for long enough. You would think there was some database migration going on behind the scenes since the beginning of the generation... but if anything, Sony are predictably clumsy.
FranXico
Member
captainraincoat
Banned
Hopefully they start clamping down on some of the psn Id names ...its all well and good to have names like butzsmasha6969 but from playing cod this past week I have seen so many people with variations of niggaa/jewzz/hitla in their gamertag....I think one I saw was called nigger in chains in some phonetic way.
FranXico
Member
Same as XBL, I believe. People expected as much.
30yearsofhurt
Member
You chose sinister090boat didn't you.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
But i like my ID =(
Tarkus98
Member
Sounds like “the best time” to cut and run with this would be when PS5 releases - new console, new user name.
Certainly many of the warnings and disclaimers should be worked out when it’s rolled out after the beta testing..... right? Right?
Hopefully they properly groom and prepare their customer service reps to correctly address any lost “paid for” items that slip through the cracks as a result for the initially horribly designed database.
As for myself, there is no way I’d risk losing anything that I had paid for and then having to deal with their generally horrendous CS support.
I do however give Sony major props for having the balls to finally go through with this - damn the torpedoes!
Certainly many of the warnings and disclaimers should be worked out when it’s rolled out after the beta testing..... right? Right?
Hopefully they properly groom and prepare their customer service reps to correctly address any lost “paid for” items that slip through the cracks as a result for the initially horribly designed database.
As for myself, there is no way I’d risk losing anything that I had paid for and then having to deal with their generally horrendous CS support.
I do however give Sony major props for having the balls to finally go through with this - damn the torpedoes!
TimFL
Member
People overexaggerate this. You‘re not going to lose your games or DLC, what you may potentially lose (the way I understand it):
- Savegame data (because they seem to be tied your username) which also covers the trophy progress bulletpoint (because PSN trophies have no tracker, devs have to keep track of the progress themselves, they only unlock the trophy once criteria is met) and MP progress for games that use your PSN handle to authenticate you
- IG currency or unlocks/addons for server-sided games that have data tied to PSN handles (I‘d wager any game that does not require another account login to tie content to)
The list is probably scary cause they have to account for edge cases and cover their bases.
- Savegame data (because they seem to be tied your username) which also covers the trophy progress bulletpoint (because PSN trophies have no tracker, devs have to keep track of the progress themselves, they only unlock the trophy once criteria is met) and MP progress for games that use your PSN handle to authenticate you
- IG currency or unlocks/addons for server-sided games that have data tied to PSN handles (I‘d wager any game that does not require another account login to tie content to)
The list is probably scary cause they have to account for edge cases and cover their bases.
DigitalScrap
Member
I actually feel a little bad for Sony with this one. Everybody knew their database schema was fucked, but everyone kept demanding to be able to change their user ID. Sony is trying to allow it, but the database is apparently so screwed up since inception, that it definitely won't be a seamless process for many.
I'd like to know who was the original person that was responsible for this way back when - I bet we'd learn that they gave the task to some random person, as no database admin in the world would have created this the way it apparently was.
Thankfully, I'm perfectly fine with my PSN ID, but even if I wasn't, I wouldn't risk changing it personally.
I'd like to know who was the original person that was responsible for this way back when - I bet we'd learn that they gave the task to some random person, as no database admin in the world would have created this the way it apparently was.
Thankfully, I'm perfectly fine with my PSN ID, but even if I wasn't, I wouldn't risk changing it personally.
Rayderism
Member
Being that I'm 100% digital on PS4 and Vita, and like 50/50 on the PS3, there's not a chance in hell that I'd even attempt to change my PSN ID under those conditions. Good thing I'm happy with my PSN name and have no intention of changing it.
I guess it could work well enough for people who are all physical and bought no DLC, but I don't think that applies to a whole lot of people.
I guess it could work well enough for people who are all physical and bought no DLC, but I don't think that applies to a whole lot of people.
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FranXico
Member
Did you encounter any issues? Which games did the ID change break?
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Ar¢tos
Member
Sound like normal disclaimers because of 3rd party online services connected to your psn, like EA account, etc.
Destiny is one of the games that will always show your original id in-game.
The name change should move all bought items/dlc to the new name, but there are some dlc that are 3rd party account tied, like some shaders in Destiny 1. I'm sure with some more Time Sony will eventually fix those things.
Destiny is one of the games that will always show your original id in-game.
The name change should move all bought items/dlc to the new name, but there are some dlc that are 3rd party account tied, like some shaders in Destiny 1. I'm sure with some more Time Sony will eventually fix those things.
TFGB
Member
I almost changed my ID. If I could have done a simple ID reset by the system software then I may have tried it, but I can't be arsed with faffing around getting in touch with customer support for something that really shouldn't require human interaction.
Toe-Knee
Member
You don't have to contact them. It's just an online form
TFGB
Member
Really? That's not so bad then. Cheers for the heads up.
Toe-Knee
Member
It does say it can take a few days though so not instant.
Blam
Member
I'm almost certain they've blocked it but I'd love to try a DROP Table name and see if anything fucks up.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Gamers from Steam must think this is insane lol
FranXico
Member
Heh, console gamers have even been conditioned to think that it's ok to pay for online multiplayer, so I don't think Steam/PC gamers will be that surprised about this...
Ar¢tos
Member
These issues are related to games released prior to the name change. Delaying the firmware wouldn't change anything. Things that are outside of Sony domain, Sony can't change (example: in game currency tied to EA account instead of Sony account on a game made before the name change SDK )
sublimit
Banned
So how come those issues don't exist on Xbox live if someone changes their username?
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