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Sony TGS Flopference Thread
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If sony had a bad TGS then what kind of TGS did MS have? Their big announcement was Halo Recon.
And RPGs aren't huge anymore not even in Japan, if so the 360 wouldn't have sold what it did this past month what Ps3 did during Metal Gear week. And yes I know pokemon, FF, and Dragonquest are RPGs and million sellers. But those games have already been announced no other RPG is going to have their kind of impact the closest being KH3.
Stop crying because life didn't turn out like you expected if you are this dramatic about games I can only imagine your reactions to real life problems.
Who cares if a game goes multiplatform you still get to play it. Also weather or not Team Icos game was shown here or not has no bearing on when you will actually get to play it. If it was shown and not released for another 2 years you would then hear the same people bitching about vaporware and sony not delivering games and "I thought 'x' year was the year of the Ps3:this joke is tired emote:'
A lot of good games were shown at TGS but you have to realize that the Japanese have to cater to their biggest market first sans moneyhats and in that market DS is king. If you are running out to buy a DS with the money you get from selling your Ps3 then ok your bitching is understandable and probably legit. But I'm sure most just wanted a big announcement to stick in their fanboy talking point presentation.
So to the whiners point me to the list of Japanese exclusives that were announced for 360 at TGS so I can sell my 60GB Ps3 also
edit: DS is more like god
And RPGs aren't huge anymore not even in Japan, if so the 360 wouldn't have sold what it did this past month what Ps3 did during Metal Gear week. And yes I know pokemon, FF, and Dragonquest are RPGs and million sellers. But those games have already been announced no other RPG is going to have their kind of impact the closest being KH3.
Stop crying because life didn't turn out like you expected if you are this dramatic about games I can only imagine your reactions to real life problems.
Who cares if a game goes multiplatform you still get to play it. Also weather or not Team Icos game was shown here or not has no bearing on when you will actually get to play it. If it was shown and not released for another 2 years you would then hear the same people bitching about vaporware and sony not delivering games and "I thought 'x' year was the year of the Ps3:this joke is tired emote:'
A lot of good games were shown at TGS but you have to realize that the Japanese have to cater to their biggest market first sans moneyhats and in that market DS is king. If you are running out to buy a DS with the money you get from selling your Ps3 then ok your bitching is understandable and probably legit. But I'm sure most just wanted a big announcement to stick in their fanboy talking point presentation.
So to the whiners point me to the list of Japanese exclusives that were announced for 360 at TGS so I can sell my 60GB Ps3 also
edit: DS is more like god
gtj1092 said:So to the whiners point me to the list of Japanese exclusives that were announced for 360 at TGS so I can sell my 60GB Ps3 also
Agreed that neither PS3 or 360 announced much to be excited about.
gtj1092 said:If sony had a bad TGS then what kind of TGS did MS have? Their big announcement was Halo Recon.
And RPGs aren't huge anymore not even in Japan, if so the 360 wouldn't have sold what it did this past month what Ps3 did during Metal Gear week. And yes I know pokemon, FF, and Dragonquest are RPGs and million sellers. But those games have already been announced no other RPG is going to have their kind of impact the closest being KH3.
Stop crying because life didn't turn out like you expected if you are this dramatic about games I can only imagine your reactions to real life problems.
Who cares if a game goes multiplatform you still get to play it. Also weather or not Team Icos game was shown here or not has no bearing on when you will actually get to play it. If it was shown and not released for another 2 years you would then hear the same people bitching about vaporware and sony not delivering games and "I thought 'x' year was the year of the Ps3:this joke is tired emote:'
A lot of good games were shown at TGS but you have to realize that the Japanese have to cater to their biggest market first sans moneyhats and in that market DS is king. If you are running out to buy a DS with the money you get from selling your Ps3 then ok your bitching is understandable and probably legit. But I'm sure most just wanted a big announcement to stick in their fanboy talking point presentation.
So to the whiners point me to the list of Japanese exclusives that were announced for 360 at TGS so I can sell my 60GB Ps3 also
edit: DS is more like god
Great post. You see 360 fanboys and pretend Sony fans (hey el Diablo) trolling this thread about how bad the Sony conference was but when you talk about the awful Microsoft conference they try to dodge the subject (hey DCharlie).
Actually this entire thread has been a huge example of that. 360 fans accusing PS3 of having no exclusives and when someone else proves to them with a list of games that PS3 has a lot more exclusives planned than 360 they dodge the subject and continue trolling. Same with the conferences.
I'm sick of this thread and the title only serves to attact even more idiots in here.
ouch! :lolgtj1092 said:
AbortedWalrusFetus
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When this threads title was changed haters basically took it as a special pass to troll on Sony, from everything I've read in here. It's the first time I've heard of a gaming company showing off a great holiday line up and getting trolled for it at that...
nelsonroyale
Member
Shadow780 said:
hmmm, Im guessing none of those unannounced titles are rpgs though....they WOULD have announced them here...
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Agreed.
I might be in the minority, but I felt like Sony had a terrific showing. Yakuza 3 looks absolutely phenomenal, White Knight Story screams "buy me", Little Big Planet has Sepiroth and Old Sack, Quantum Theory looks to fill those vying for roid rage, and we've still yet to see Final Fantasy XIII shown.
Sure they may be light on JRPGs, Team ICO was not shown, and we still have no idea when Vs XIII will release, but in the grand scheme of things, the lineup is stellar. R2, KZ2, LBP, and WKC are all coming soon and are extremely impressive.
Yoshida is a smart man, and playing his cards close to the chest.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Only good part about being a junior? No post history :lol
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
Lol - i think you might want to do a bit of fact checking on that part. Unless i didn't post it here, but i thought i did - i thought the MS conf was awful and i thought Ninja Blade was the 2nd worst game of show, with it being the biggest name flop by far.
How is that dodging the subject?
the thing is , you people think rooting for anything related to any one company some how makes you a fan. It doesn't, it makes you an idiot and it means you don't contribute to your favourite company.
I'm a bigger Sony fan than any of you.
I dunno, you tell us - you're the one just mentioning "every time you post"
seriously, if you don't like seeing someone mention some not-100% positive sony news, stick me and everyone else concerned on ignore - i'm sure it'll make everything work out swell!
Rancid Mildew
Banned
gtj1092 said:
Why do we have to compare Microsoft's offerings to Sony in a thread about Sony's flopference?
1. RPGs are a big factor in Japan. Just look at the software sales and library on any of the systems, especially the DS where RPGs come out most every week. Further, it was RPGs that propelled the 360 to pass the PS3 in the past months, quite a notable feat considering where Microsoft was last generation.
2. In addition to this, the PS2 was the RPG king last generation. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a bit more from Sony, especially after all this time since launch.
You can determine how someone deals with life from the internet? Stop mischaracterizing people who think differently from you.
Agreed.
You're right on this point but should Sony put out DS games? Isn't this discussion about Sony's incredibly lackluster PS3 effort?
So to the whiners point me to the list of Japanese exclusives that were announced for 360 at TGS so I can sell my 60GB Ps3 also
There weren't any announced at TGS but if you're a RPG fan, you can see why the 360 looks more appealing than the PS3 at this point in time. I was hoping that Sony would do something to address that.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
Don't worry...Remember Nintendo fanboys just a few years ago? Yeah.DCharlie said:
DCCharlie been here a long time. I used to just lurk at GAF, and would see his threads. I think he some kind of insider. I can't recall everything. I know he works at a game company or for a game magazine and he lives or has lived in Japan. He has been Pro Sony in the past.Doubledex said:
RpgN
Junior Member
My6cats said:
I am fully aware of that. But as a publisher they had the power to decide on which console they wanted this game to be released. Oh, and Sega published the game in Japan and Europe as well. From Software published the sequel in Japan only.
And that's the first time I hear this rumour. It doesn't sound likely to be the truth.
EDIT
Anyway, not to derail this thread. Sony didn't surprise me as much as I hoped. And I was certainly waiting for the Trico announcement. But if you look at their line-up, you can say they're preparing software worth the time. I guess we'll have to wait next year...for Trico.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
Rancid Mildew said:
Well, a direct comparison may not be necessary, it's just curious that they had equivalent offerings and yet the only "flop" was on Sony's part. If anyone is bringing Microsoft up, it should be for that comparison alone, in this thread.
Edit: Spelling are good
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
That's probably because of expectations. Microsoft celebrates when they manage to sell 7-8K a week in Japan; Sony was expected to dominate this generation in Japan. People expect more from Sony at TGS, which strikes me as pretty reasonable.
I think the reason why some people were upset with TGS, is they expected Sony to have a bigger showing. Why, becuase they are Sony. People don't expect much from Microsoft, because up to this point they have been a disaster in Japan. Niether companies came out great, but non expected Microsoft to have any Japanese support. Heck people makes jokes about it here on GAF all the time.
One comment, People say Sony is now investing in 1st and 2nd party titles now instead of giving money to 3rd party companies, like they are just now starting to do 1st party gamest. I have to ask, were they not always investing in 1st and 2nd party titles, in the past? That is how we got Hotshot golf, the original wipepout, ALL those 1st and 2nd party games for PS1. Games like sly Cooper 1,2, & 3, Ratchet and Clank 1,2,3, and deadlock, Jak and Daxter, 1,2,3 and the racing game, Gods of war 1 and 2, and wilds arms 3,4,5, Dark Cloud 1 and 2, ICO, SOTC, GT 3 and 4 were all on PS2, Were they not spnding money to support thier games before?? I don't see why they can't see why they can't repeat the same thing. Spend money on 1st party and on 3rd party games.
One comment, People say Sony is now investing in 1st and 2nd party titles now instead of giving money to 3rd party companies, like they are just now starting to do 1st party gamest. I have to ask, were they not always investing in 1st and 2nd party titles, in the past? That is how we got Hotshot golf, the original wipepout, ALL those 1st and 2nd party games for PS1. Games like sly Cooper 1,2, & 3, Ratchet and Clank 1,2,3, and deadlock, Jak and Daxter, 1,2,3 and the racing game, Gods of war 1 and 2, and wilds arms 3,4,5, Dark Cloud 1 and 2, ICO, SOTC, GT 3 and 4 were all on PS2, Were they not spnding money to support thier games before?? I don't see why they can't see why they can't repeat the same thing. Spend money on 1st party and on 3rd party games.
Kill Your Masters
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iapetus said:
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
schuelma said:
Sony is still dominating the HD market in japan. 360 has been on top for a month, and even at the current rate it will be years before they catch up. And Sony's showings were great in that regard for the remainder of this year as well. The only real disappointment here on both Sony and Microsoft's sides are that they haven't showed much of what is going to happen in the longer term. It's particularly disappointing that SCEJ had nothing to show, but my guess is that this is because they didn't want to focus on the longer term for this particular show.
I'm not sure why people expect Sony to do more at a pre-holiday trade show than show off their holiday line-up and announce a few titles.
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Dominating the HD market in Japan means jack shit, no offense. You saw it at TGS- It's handhelds, then Wii, and then HD. PS3 just had its lowest weekly sales ever. It's still tracking similiarly to the GameCube.
And I don't see how Sony's showings for the rest of the year were "great".
I'm not at all convinced LBP will catch on, so you're left with WKS and Gundam Musou 2. That's a weak Holiday lineup, sales wise.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
schuelma said:
Obviously it means jack shit, and that's why for the life of me I can't figure out why you pointed to people expecting Sony to dominate the generation as a factor of their disappointment in TGS.
And LBP better catch on. The beta was the most fun I've had in a while.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
DCharlie said:
*cough cough*
...(just because I did not go through with my idea of a Kutaragi-diet-success-story infomercial does not mean I am no longer cheerleading for his run at SCE... wait... cheerleading != fan ?... uhm...
sigh )Relaxed Muscle
Member
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
That sounds good, but in the end means nothing.
I think the dissapointing thing it's that no one (or I atleast) expected nothing from MS, because the few last cards he had in his sleeve were pretty much unveiled, and well, I'm sure they effort is right now to build a base of fans in Japan for the next generation.
But I do expected a lot more from Sony, and it feel like they dropped the arms in Japan, totally understable seeing how the market is right now on Japan, but I was expecting a few titles to try at least to put the PS3 in a more favorable situation in the market, or at least to say, "Hey! we still here!!", they did it with PSP, but right now the line up for the next months in Japan for the PS3,is as much underwhelming, and that means selling like shit, like they're doing right now, for a few more months....
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