Sarkozix le Gaulois
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Yes, lets kill all the whites and make the world a better place. Im with you brother !
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South Africa seems to be at a boiling point
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Yes, lets kill all the whites and make the world a better place. Im with you brother !
Surely the calls for ethnic cleansing should be met with nuance and discussion instead of being shot down immediately. At least that's the argument I hear in various countries when it comes to minority groups. This is why I believe any and all far-right rhetoric shouldn't be given a platform because if you do you end up with shit like South Africa. Difference being now that the people who spout that shit in South Africa might be able to follow through on it.
If South Africa isn't a cautionary tell on letting Far-right movements flourish I don't know what is. S.Africa is on the tipping point, I hope that country does the right thing and says no to these proposals. Maybe it's because I have a personal stake in it all. My uncle lives in S.Africa, he bought his land in the early-mid 80s, argue if it was a fair purchase from whoever had it before I don't know. But I don't feel he deserves to die because of it, and if you're going to take it from him I do think he should be compensated. I understand that my uncle was afforded a shit ton of privilege in South Africa but I just think repeating Apartheid but in the opposite direction isn't the correct way.
If South Africa isn't a cautionary tell on letting Far-right movements flourish I don't know what is. S.Africa is on the tipping point, I hope that country does the right thing and says no to these proposals. Maybe it's because I have a personal stake in it all. My uncle lives in S.Africa, he bought his land in the early-mid 80s, argue if it was a fair purchase from whoever had it before I don't know. But I don't feel he deserves to die because of it, and if you're going to take it from him I do think he should be compensated. I understand that my uncle was afforded a shit ton of privilege in South Africa but I just think repeating Apartheid but in the opposite direction isn't the correct way.
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Thickandblack
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The farmers are white that is why no one cares. Switch around the races and the world would be in a uproar.
I'd like to know what civilized countries actually call for discussion when someone calls for genocide against minority groups. If you are referring to the US, please know that disagreements between the left and right in the US are not comparable to actual consideration of genocide by politicians, at least in a rational discussion.
AaronB
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The far-right is the issue here? The ANC is socialist, and allied with communist groups. The radical land-redistributionists are certainly in far-left territory. It sounds like serious contortions to try to make this about the far-right. As to denying them a voice, the ANC is the majority party, and don't seem that determined to purge any anti-white incitement or calls for land confiscations. How do you deny the majority a voice? One of the many problems with censorship is that the people in position to impose it are generally not the people who need to be protected.
Your media gives far right spokespeople a pretty big platform and helps makes them digestible for larger America, that's how these things always start. US has this idea that "it'll never get to THAT point so it's okay to give them a platform and allow them to take over a political party" is like really dangerous shit.
Invading a country is the easy solution? I have no words.
DKehoe
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That's not how the world works though. Your suggestion of using a UN army as protection has been done before and ended horrifically
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Kenpachii
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More like easy in a solution provided then easy of invading a country.
Lessons where learned, EU was created on to the next mission.
Da-Kid
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His statement wasn't necessarily untrue. White people seem to be at or near the epicenter of the most horrible events in the world past and present. Especially when it comes to black people. Those are facts that can be backed up just by asking Google and reading history that conveniently doesn't get taught in school s for the greater part.
And don't give me that "Organization Religion" stick. White people only used that as an excuse to do what they did, and used it to control, oppress, and manipulate. Despite the Bible not condoning anything they were doing. There's a reason they did not want Black people to read or write. Knowledge is power. If you control that and leave people in ignorance, then you can control said group.
When you try to look into the culture of Caucasian people, you'll often find, not much actually other than Colonization and/or mass genocide.
And don't give me that "Organization Religion" stick. White people only used that as an excuse to do what they did, and used it to control, oppress, and manipulate. Despite the Bible not condoning anything they were doing. There's a reason they did not want Black people to read or write. Knowledge is power. If you control that and leave people in ignorance, then you can control said group.
When you try to look into the culture of Caucasian people, you'll often find, not much actually other than Colonization and/or mass genocide.
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Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
An invasion would only create more hostility. Giving the affected asylum from the hostility (as has been mentioned that Australia is doing), is a much better idea.
Dacon
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Some of the things I'm seeing people say here are downright horrific and abhorrent. Having a little compassion for your fellow man goes a long way regardless of their race. Whatever the issue, violence and murder is not the answer to past transgressions. Anyone who thinks so is furthering the cycle of violence and will only welcome future tragedy.
<+)O Robido O(+>
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Funny thing is, this is only the sentiment when its white people feeling the effects. Hundreds of years can pass when the situation is reversed before someone thinks, "hey, this isn't right." Expecting an oppressed people to be hunky dory with their former oppressors when they finally see the error of their ways (but not really because they kept treating them like shit for decades after) is the silliest notion anyone could put forth.
Dacon
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Expecting people to be ok with murder and torture directed against any particular race in any nation is pretty silly. Violence only begets more violence, creates more grudges and more tragedy. It's a staple of history.
I don't have any particular attachment to any race. I'd feel the same if this was happening in some other country where people are being victimized. The fact there's been white people who did bad things in the past in South Africa doesn't make doing terrible things to white people in the present ok. I can't see anyone cheering for people being butchered and tortured as anything but barbaric. There's a solution to the problem that doesn't require murder.
KonradLaw
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Lulz, you have to be trolling.
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KonradLaw
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Using this logic Europe should completely shut it's borders to any african migrants, since they will always see european natives as only oppressors and seek revenge.
FCKAFD
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care to explain?
Da-Kid
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I don't even know if you meant to reply to me seeing as the name differs. But for the record, no, I'm not trolling.
KonradLaw
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The idea that all the culture white people have is centered on colonialism and genocide is utterly insane.
Da-Kid
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Why don't you tell me what culture white people have?
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KonradLaw
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Put map of Europe on the wall, close your eyes and throw twenty darts, each will point to a place of rich culture that's very different from other any other place the different darts hit.
Saying caucasian culture is all about genonocie and colonialism makes even less sense than saying black culture is all about rape and murder.
KonradLaw
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There are old and large white ethnic groups that never actually took part in colonization or genocide of other groups.
And even among those that did.. plenty of European countries have histories than span thousand years or more. Their genocide and colonialism might seem like a big deal to you, but they're merely a small part of their entire history and heritage to them
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FCKAFD
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not sure if youre being serious. you cant expect a group to opress people for centuries and dont expect people to be angry at them and defend themselves.
Dacon
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I'm not sure you're being serious if you consider attacking people in their homes and torturing/murdering them as "defending yourself".
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Jon Neu
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Not only WW3, there was a lot of people that actually believed trans people would be in concentration camps by now.
The victimization it's becoming so ridiculous is not even funny.
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Jon Neu
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You know who is the principal oppresor of Africa and black people in his history?
Other black people.
Black people had slaves, white slaves to begin with. Black people sold other black people. Black people have enslaved, raped, tortured, mutilated and murdered other black people in Africa since the dawn of times and they are doing it right now as we surf this forum. Black people have made or tried genocide on other black people just because they are from different tribus/ethnic group.
The greatest enemy in history black people have is other black people. If you think some farmers have to die to avenge something that happened in the past, you must as well cry for the murder of every human being in Africa to avenge what their ancestors did.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
It is almost like violence is common with all of humanity and not specific to the colour of a person's skin.
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blu
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Europen history is full of 'groups of people oppressing neighbour groups of people for centuries'. Somehow we haven't torn apart each other. On the contrary, we have the EU, and reasonable relations with the countries surrounding the EU. Why? Because that's the only viable way forward.
Well even though this is about S.Africa, in the US and to a similar extent here in the UK it's pretty true.
Not talking about individual European cultures, but the collective "white culture" his statement while crass is accurate. It's a designation I've recently had to learn myself when reading black people's concerns in their countries. I used to think "why can't white Americans celebrate being white, white pride" but after people explained to me the huge difference between black pride and culture and white pride and culture I really understood their grievances.
In context of the US or hell even S.Africa, what exactly is white pride? I'm not talking pride as a person of Dutch, Italian, Irish, German, etc origin, practicing culturally relevant to those countries from a historic note. I'm talking white as in the identity given to anyone and everyone of Euro descent who immigrated to these countries?
In the US black culture is the direct result of slavers stripping away the individual culture, language, spiritual belief, practices of the different tribes and countries. In the absence of having those, they formed a new culture based on their shared struggle of being dehumanized, enslaved, experimented on, yet overcoming and staying strong. They created new rituals and norms in place of the ones that they were forced to give up or were taken away. So by extension the collective "white culture" would be the wanton destruction and constant oppression of these previously mentioned group(s), the forcing of them to be one large group (scholars argue that has slavers let them keep their individual cultural identities, their modern day influence would be much weaker), the constant pilfering of their cultural contributions and claiming them as our own. The exclusion and targeted assault in their communities to better white communities, the constant disenfranchisement, etc.
nephilimdj
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Modern Afrikaaners and Boer is a odd one, could write a massive essay on it.
Yes need pride to be happy with your culture and have you have created, I mean after all Sout Africa also has a successful middle class “coloured” culture too.
It just gets a bit shady when modern white people go on about boers, white washed boer history should of died 20 years ago, but sadly remains.
Yes need pride to be happy with your culture and have you have created, I mean after all Sout Africa also has a successful middle class “coloured” culture too.
It just gets a bit shady when modern white people go on about boers, white washed boer history should of died 20 years ago, but sadly remains.
<+)O Robido O(+>
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It looks like Lauren Southern? I agree.
Jon Neu
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It's a documentary about the racism that white farmers face in South Africa, where they are killed at a rate 4 times higher than the rest of the population.
There's even political parties calling for the extermination of the Boers and the government does nothing to protect white citizens.
