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Spider-Man: Homecoming review thread [92% RT]
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same - and The Winter Soldier & GotG kicked it up a notch and blew me away
and then age of ultron made me nervous and CW & vol 2 AGAIN gave confidence in the quality and future of the mcu
yeah im confused - is CM a big part of IW? Or is the wasp a big part of A4?
i hope both are true lol
Kill Your Masters
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Marvels output is truly an impressive feat to watch unfold.
Say what you want but they are putting out constant and consistent quality. Movies most people enjoy with absolutely no showing of franchise fatigue. People give them not enough credit and some are exaggerating with the criticism.
Other studios are still figuring out the right recipe for the cinematic universe concept. DC may be on the right path especially after WW but nobody comes close to what Marvel has accomplished.
Say what you want but they are putting out constant and consistent quality. Movies most people enjoy with absolutely no showing of franchise fatigue. People give them not enough credit and some are exaggerating with the criticism.
Other studios are still figuring out the right recipe for the cinematic universe concept. DC may be on the right path especially after WW but nobody comes close to what Marvel has accomplished.
Yep, this is exactly why I love Marvel, and I agree! Plus I've watched every Marvel that comes out as well.
I've heard rumors of Carol popping up in either film but I don't know for sure.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I simply can't fathom this concept of "superhero fatigue." I've been reading Spider-Man and Avengers comics since I first started learning how to read, I'm never gonna get sick of these fucks.
I used to have a rule with comic book movies because of their spotty track record. I'd only see them when they came out on VHS/DVD/Blu Ray. that way I could see which ones were still held in high regard. after Avengers I decided I'd see any MCU movie in theaters no questions asked. they earned my faith and haven't lost it yet.
I meant in the sense that these movies would become less viable for a large audience and might not continue at some point in time. I was basically bracing myself for when the MCU movies went out of style by saying that what I had already gotten was damn impressive and was something I couldn't have fathomed prior to everything.
but they keep making quality ass movies and people keep seeing them so I'll be on this ride until it ends
I meant in the sense that these movies would become less viable for a large audience and might not continue at some point in time. I was basically bracing myself for when the MCU movies went out of style by saying that what I had already gotten was damn impressive and was something I couldn't have fathomed prior to everything.
but they keep making quality ass movies and people keep seeing them so I'll be on this ride until it ends
Messofanego
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More like threats.
I have a feeling there will be college level courses in the future about cinematic universe building, with Marvel being the standard.
What they have accomplished has never been done before.
Nemesis121
Member
I don't have Superhero fatigue, i have a teenage Spiderman fatigue, I have no interest in this movie, if Spiderman was old and already married to MJ, i would be on board the hype train in a heart beat, but another fucking kid Spidey, no thanks..
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I didn't know it had one until right before I watched The Avengers.
Is there a NeoGAF Thread with reactions on this?
bananafactory
Banned
I don't get it either honestly. Action films have been around for decades with good people shooting bad guys. Replace guns with superpowers and badass suits with underwear and voila - superhero movies
As long as they continue to get creative in their presentation and hooks I won't get tired of them
Someone I knew who worked at the theater let me know there was a post-credits scene to Iron Man. My dad and I both marked out hard
Pai Pai Master
Banned
As long as the quality is there, there will be people coming out to see these things. I get where you're coming from though. We're comic fans and we've been through it - Marvel comics have certainly not been flawless over the many decades and there are low points across the brand at times (we're in one right now) and while hardcore comic fans may stick around when the quality drops, general movie audiences are decidedly more fickle.
If marvel does actually have a string of bad movies or even just one massive dud, it'll be interesting to see if it's enough to kill the ENTIRE MCU or if it just takes some time to earn audience's trust back.
I kinda wanna find one for the Avengers trailer with that one scene where they actually assemble, back to back.
Ayy man i Gotta rewatch the MCU. I can't even say what my favorite phase is.
this Spider Man is competent, what?
you see him nerding out over Falcon's suit in Civil War?
Lord of Castamere
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So stay until after the crexits end for this one?
I really don't see how they'd have the time in Avengers 3 to spend twenty minutes on introducing Carol, let alone make her integral to the movie. I think Russos said (or hinted) that she'd show up in Infinity War though.
Inferno313
Banned
I don't get the idea of being so hung-up on one particular interpretation of a character that you can't muster interest if they're not using your preferred version. Batman's my favorite, but part of the reason that Batman's my favorite is that there have been so many wonderfully different takes on the character. It's part of the fun of superheroes!
There's never been a competent Spider-Man on the movie screen though.
It's not the intelligent, inventive, science prodigy Spider-Man from the comics.
bananafactory
Banned
If you watch Spider-Man 2 and don't think him stopping that train is competent I don't know what to say :/
What?
How exactly was he incompetent in Civil War?
How has he ever actually been incompetent?
i am planning a big mcu re watch thread in a few weeks
we'll watch 1 movie every 2 weeks til IW
More_Badass
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What's your definition of competence?
Nailed it. Best part about comics/CBM's is the different interpretations of the characters.
60's cartoon Spider-Man is the best though.
That's damn good. Gonna feel bad waiting 2 weeks to watch Thor 2Dark2World, though.
The sacrifices we make.
ummm, yes it is? what are you basing this on? Stark, one of the other great minds in the MCU, was pretty impressed that he made his own web fluid. they already established Pete's intellect in Civil War. he idolizes Stark for that very reason!
not sure where you're coming from tbh
Me and a bunch of friends went to see it opening weekend. Our reactions (along with about half the people in the theater) went something like this:
*Sam Jackson steps out of the shadows* "Is... Is that Nick Fury?"
"Nick Fury, Director of S.H.I.E.L.D." "Holy shit, it is!"
"I'm here to talk to you about the Avengers Initiative." "... WHAT? WHOOOO!"
It was great.
You're talking about the same Peter Parker who impressed Tony Stark with the tech Parker was able to produce in a cheap Queens bedroom, the same Tony Stark who openly shit on basically every other tech producing character in the MCU. He was also the guy who devised the plan to bring down Ant Man while Stark and everyone else were guffawing.
This version of Spider-Man admires Tony and frankly doesn't know what to do without his guidance, which is apparently what this movie is about when he makes mistakes by acting heroic without thinking of the consequences. It's a bit like Ultimate Spider-Man, except there he actually grows as a character all by himself.
Yes, there's one mid credit scene and one post.
More_Badass
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All by himself*
*along with Nick Fury as his mentor/handler and him wanting to prove himself as an Ultimate
well now you've just moved goal posts lol
acting heroic without thinking of the consequences has nothing to do with his intellect in regards to science and being a tech nerd and everything to do with him being a sophomore in high school
also Spider Man was already out there doing his thing before Stark came along. that was also established in Civil War.
so yeah, still have no idea where you're coming from
what I got from just the scene in Pete's bedroom in Civil War is that he is every bit the intelligent character we know from the comics, he just lacks the means in many instances because he's not well off. it's the most accurate depiction of Peter Parker yet and I am only basing that off of the brief time that he was in Civil War.
Lord of Castamere
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Thanks, always good to know beforehand. Makes me feel like a jackass to wait for nothing.
If anything I get the impression that Stark's presence clouds Peter's judgement because Peter becomes too focused on proving himself, since Civil War established that he was already doing super hero stuff before getting pulled into the fold. And on the flipside nobody really seems to fully accept/trust Peter because of his youth even though Parker is a well of smart ideas
MugiwaraCole
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My best friend in high school and I got lucky. We were sitting in our seats just in awe that an Iron Man movie was awesome. We got up to leave right as Tony got home and said "Jarvis?..."
My friend didn't read the ultimate universe at all, but when I saw Samuel L. step into the light with the eyepatch I almost peed myself. Tears were shed.
I didn't say I liked Ultimate Spider-Man lol
Intelligence isn't just based on how good one is at academics.
you said "It's not an intelligent, inventive, science prodigy Spider-Man."
so you were framing intelligence in a specific way which is what I was addressing
the other angle that you're now adding into the equation can be easily explained by the fact that he's a kid in high school. the kind of intelligence that you're now talking about comes with experience.
What about this Spider-Man seems unintelligent?
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The whole damn point of the movie is that Peter is inexperienced. Maybe watch it first before you judge if he grows or not.
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