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[Spoilers] Resident Evil 7 Demo: "There's More, Right?" Edition

Wazzy

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Okay family, I'm still convinced the spindle icon is a key piece of the puzzle, and I have a new theory. To recap:

Start the VHS, pause the tape as soon as the tracking noise disappears (before Pete says 'boo!'). Wait 30 seconds.
A spinning tape spindle icon appears in the bottom right of the screen.

Some people have dismissed this as an insignificant loading icon, but I don't believe it is. The load/save icons elsewhere in the demo are a small ring in the top left. If this were a loading icon, why would it appear in this scenario (and nowhere else on the tape), and why would it never complete loading and disappear? It stays on screen indefinitely.

Furthermore, the VHS tape icon in the inventory has two small icons beneath it. All other items that have one purpose have one icon beneath them indicating their purpose. The VHS tape has two. One looks like the underside of an open (ie. playing) VHS tape, the other looks like this spindle icon. Making this icon appear is the tape's second purpose.


Something had been bugging me about the visual appearance of the tape spindle icon, and I've worked out what it is. The spindle that appears is not a VHS tape spindle. It's an audio casette tape spindle. VHS tape spindles have 9 teeth and look nothing like this one. This one has 6 teeth and looks exactly like an audio casette tape spindle.

The video tape is paused, but the audio tape spindle is rolling, as if it's recording. I think this is the point in the demo where it's listening for us to say the magic word.

What is the word? My first guess would be 'goodbye'.
"You will have to say goodbye eventually."

I can't test it right now, and I really don't know what it's listening for or what other conditions may need to be fulfilled, but I'm now convinced the spindle icon is telling us audio is involved at that point.
Ugh I wish I had my ps4 so I could try this.

Someone go try it!!
 
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Okay family, I'm still convinced the spindle icon is a key piece of the puzzle, and I have a new theory. To recap:

Start the VHS, pause the tape as soon as the tracking noise disappears (before Pete says 'boo!'). Wait 30 seconds.
A spinning tape spindle icon appears in the bottom right of the screen.

Some people have dismissed this as an insignificant loading icon, but I don't believe it is. The load/save icons elsewhere in the demo are a small ring in the top left. If this were a loading icon, why would it appear in this scenario (and nowhere else on the tape), and why would it never complete loading and disappear? It stays on screen indefinitely.

Furthermore, the VHS tape icon in the inventory has two small icons beneath it. All other items that have one purpose have one icon beneath them indicating their purpose. The VHS tape has two. One looks like the underside of an open (ie. playing) VHS tape, the other looks like this spindle icon. Making this icon appear is the tape's second purpose.


Something had been bugging me about the visual appearance of the tape spindle icon, and I've worked out what it is. The spindle that appears is not a VHS tape spindle. It's an audio casette tape spindle. VHS tape spindles have 9 teeth and look nothing like this one. This one has 6 teeth and looks exactly like an audio casette tape spindle.

The video tape is paused, but the audio tape spindle is rolling, as if it's recording. I think this is the point in the demo where it's listening for us to say the magic word.

What is the word? My first guess would be 'goodbye'.
"You will have to say goodbye eventually."

I can't test it right now, and I really don't know what it's listening for or what other conditions may need to be fulfilled, but I'm now convinced the spindle icon is telling us audio is involved at that point.
Ok...well I have a Playstation Silver headset, and I'm gonna see if it does anything...don't think it will, but since no one else has tried, I'll give it a go.
 

Xpliskin

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Ok...well I have a Playstation Silver headset, and I'm gonna see if it does anything...don't think it will, but since no one else has tried, I'll give it a go.
Go go go

(Says goodbye in a dramatic fashion, demo unlocks, all barricades explode, leon comes in, shoots the dad in dramatic fashion, throws "I don't like your family", our protagonist tears up with joy )
 
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I like this theory.

I'm watching the spindle loop right now.

I'm gonna leave it on for 1h50, the time that the tape shows when it's all over.

Someone try the goodbye on the mic.


what the hell am I doing with my life
When you finish the tape the time stamp very quickly, only for a few frames, flash to 16:45:22, that could also be important.

I tired awhile ago stopping the tape at certain points, as well as saying certain things and i didn't get anywhere. But please, do try, as its been driving me nuts too.


EDIT: i did try saying lyrics from the song used in the trailer too, but nothing.
 

Kyolux

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I'm going to bed, but if anyone is still trying to figure stuff out, I have something for y'all to try and reproduce. It could just be a one-time thing, or an actual clue.

I was trying to think outside the box a little bit, and here's exactly what I did:

1. Opened fireplace trapdoor.
2. Picked up fuse.
3. Inserted fuse into fuse box.
4. Picked up bolt-cutters.
5. Unlocked cabinet and picked up VHS.
6. Put VHS into VCR and watched tape.
7. Picked up lock pick.
8. Unlocked drawer.
9. Stopped tape.
10. Retrieved axe.
11. Went back to watch tape.
12. At this point, I kept stopping and starting the tape until I spotted the ghost in the kitchen outside the window. (I spotted the first two ghosts on multiple occasions)
13. Finally spotted the ghost in the kitchen window, next to the sink.
14. Stopped the tape.
15. Went back to the kitchen and turned the sink faucet, and I heard a distinct knock afterward.

So, does that mean this did something? I'm not sure...nothing that I noticed, at least. But that's kinda why I want to see if someone can duplicate this. The way the sound effects in this game work, with the knocks and clicks and so on, it could have just been a random knock that happened to occur after I turned off the sink.

Here's the video of the knock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhLTB5YK7Kc

Yes. You have to mash START and press "Next" right away. If you don't fly through the startup really fast, you don't see it.
I think it's just a random click that coincidentally played at that same time? Or do clicks not play through share?

PS: I'll stream trying the goodbye on tape thing.

Anyone wanting to watch http://www.twitch.tv/kyolux

#teamnevergameoverdammit
 

Moofers

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I'm going to bed, but if anyone is still trying to figure stuff out, I have something for y'all to try and reproduce. It could just be a one-time thing, or an actual clue.

I was trying to think outside the box a little bit, and here's exactly what I did:

1. Opened fireplace trapdoor.
2. Picked up fuse.
3. Inserted fuse into fuse box.
4. Picked up bolt-cutters.
5. Unlocked cabinet and picked up VHS.
6. Put VHS into VCR and watched tape.
7. Picked up lock pick.
8. Unlocked drawer.
9. Stopped tape.
10. Retrieved axe.
11. Went back to watch tape.
12. At this point, I kept stopping and starting the tape until I spotted the ghost in the kitchen outside the window. (I spotted the first two ghosts on multiple occasions)
13. Finally spotted the ghost in the kitchen window, next to the sink.
14. Stopped the tape.
15. Went back to the kitchen and turned the sink faucet, and I heard a distinct knock afterward.

So, does that mean this did something? I'm not sure...nothing that I noticed, at least. But that's kinda why I want to see if someone can duplicate this. The way the sound effects in this game work, with the knocks and clicks and so on, it could have just been a random knock that happened to occur after I turned off the sink.

Here's the video of the knock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhLTB5YK7Kc

Yes. You have to mash START and press "Next" right away. If you don't fly through the startup really fast, you don't see it.
Yeah that's a distinct knock alright. My question is, does that happen every time you turn off the sink?
 

Futaba

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Tested the tape spindle icon theory, no dice.

Who's willing to bet that the dummy finger ends up references jokingly in other games in future.
 

Xpliskin

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You are Capcom PR.


You have shipped a RE7 puzzle teaser, with thousands of people spending countless hours trying to solve, with a progression-breaking bug.

You get confirmation from Capcom Osaka HQ.


What do you do.
 

BabyDuck666

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Anyone tried saying "she's back" anywhere? Just remembered that it's the only instance of dialogue from the trailer.
 

Wazzy

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So is there any other keys words someone could say other than goodbye that might trigger something?

Edit: Anything like "Everyone is dead" or like a poster said above, the one spoken line in the trailer?
 

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You are Capcom PR.


You have shipped a RE7 puzzle teaser, with thousands of people spending countless hours trying to solve, with a progression-breaking bug.

You get confirmation from Capcom Osaka HQ.


What do you do.
Tell people it's been modified to be easier to solve since no one could figure it out in its original, immaculate state.
 

Soulflarz

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So I'm at my dads to grab some stuff and pack for a thing tomorrow and....

I go to the kitchen, and...
I see a metallic shiny thing

and then it hits me- my brother owns one at both houses!

Eva Unit 001 is going to be so happy
 

Soulflarz

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You are Capcom PR.


You have shipped a RE7 puzzle teaser, with thousands of people spending countless hours trying to solve, with a progression-breaking bug.

You get confirmation from Capcom Osaka HQ.


What do you do.
You leave it as the biggest troll:
the negative PR isn't worth the released fix, and as such, you simply leave the finger and axe as useless things!

Avoid, jump ship, etc.
 
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Putting on this silver headset again, I remember why I never use them...these things suck. They are so fucking quiet that even at max volume, it sounds like a whisper.
 

gafneo

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At this point my opinion is that if there isnt an actual end people are looking for capcom better patch it in quick. Its getting frustrating watching everyone lose their minds. It was/is entertaining but yeah its getting a bit much since everyone doing it is basing it on the trust that Capcom said you can beat it without getting punched.
I think the only way we can stop is when Capcom breaks silence and puts out an officially stamped statement letter and video confirmation sent out to all respected high profile gaming news websites confirming whether or not we are lead to believe there is more to the demo than initially assumed. We need clarification about the intent of the finger, invisible doors, numbers, ghost spawns, meanings behind cryptic phone calls.
 

will0wis

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You guys who are trying to talk to the tape, are you trying with the audio settings all set to 0? This seems to change/cause some audio cues in the VHS world (yes, there are still audio cues even with everything set to 0 and this is also indicated by the earmuffs on the second floor).

Maybe it's not speaking but there's definitely something related to sound. There's the audio tape symbol, Pete tells the guys to "make sure the sound is right" right after you can see this symbol, "I don't do ADR", then earmuffs on the second floor...
 

NCR Redslayer

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Watching a guy on twitch about to go on his twelth hour in the game. He somehow glitched the game so he doesnt get familied at the phone.
 

Wazzy

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"Or restart and use the same method again! You may see things turn out differently next time!"
I was reading that and thinking "there's no way someone hasn't tried the exact same thing again only to get the exact same ending right?" but it would be hilarious if that was actually how you trigger the final ending.
 

Se_7_eN

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I was reading that and thinking "there's no way someone hasn't tried the exact same thing again only to get the exact same ending right?" but it would be hilarious if that was actually how you trigger the final ending.
If am trying the same ending 7 times.
 

EVA UNIT 01

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So I'm at my dads to grab some stuff and pack for a thing tomorrow and....

I go to the kitchen, and...
I see a metallic shiny thing

and then it hits me- my brother owns one at both houses!

Eva Unit 001 is going to be so happy
I said it all along.
The key to the demo is the magic bullet in the kitchen

Soulflarz
Owns not one,but TWO magic bullets
 

Mr. Desu

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We're nearly 6,000 posts in. You guys are legendary. Do we have anything new I should add to the OP? I've been busy most of the day.
 

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If you leave the press button screen for a while you start hearing whispers, they are not recordable with share but they are there. Press button screen has no audio in share videos.

I'll watch the video to see what you are actually talking about tho.
Oh yeah, I even recorded and posted about those way earlier in the thread. I was talking about the screen after you press a button in the video also has the same very quiet whispers that's heard all throughout the gameplay from the video.
 

SexyFish

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We're nearly 6,000 posts in. You guys are legendary. Do we have anything new I should add to the OP? I've been busy most of the day.
Found on reddit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbApxo_cvA

Says he used 0/0/0 sound in the VHS flashback and reversed some audio.

14:20 seems to be the main event*

https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/4om4ue/re7_demo_vhs_sound_at_000_reversed_ghost_talking/
While it may not be helpful, this is the only slightly new info I've seen. Not sure if it has been replicated by others or what its purpose is.
 

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I've had another thought, has anyone tried turning off their controller as soon as they start playing the VHS tape? Then maybe we get to watch the real actions of the camera man
 

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One way or another that spindle is indicating audio. It could well be a signal that audio is playing, particularly given that the audio settings are available on that pause screen. I'm going to put on my headphones tonight and mess around with the audio settings while that spindle is spinning. There's gotta be something to it.
 

Kwansu Dudes

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my god, I can't believe the 13-hour-insane-conspiracy guy is still streaming this game haha

I really hope there is something to be found or Capcom Japan/whatever studio is developing it comes out and says something.
 

Soulflarz

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it's 1:30
I have to be up 5:45 to start driving to colorado...I live in Chicago
Why the hell did I agree to this vacation :/

A-anyways, as such...I will not be in here as much. Think of me with every sip of coffee guys.

I said it all along.
The key to the demo is the magic bullet in the kitchen

Soulflarz
Owns not one,but TWO magic bullets
I still own 0
pls. My tag that's coming whenever my friend gets around to it kills that one.

We're nearly 6,000 posts in. You guys are legendary. Do we have anything new I should add to the OP? I've been busy most of the day.
"also known as coffeeGAF"
 

Soulflarz

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double post rip, yolo

okay so, we've tried every conceivable idea within the game. I'm going with the idea this is meta, that is to say- it involves some interaction outside of the actual main thing, such as volume, controller, or other such input. Theres no way this is in the game and we've missed it, we've done more than most QA teams would have fifty times over.