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Star Ocean 4 remaster launches in NA/EU Nov 28 (same as JP), $20.99
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Shifty1897
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VP2 looked amazing because I'm pretty sure it had a crazy amount of PS2 specific customization. Years later, it's one of the few games that doesn't run well on emulators because of this. Porting to PS4 or PC would probably require a lot of work.
I seriously love VP2 and would spend $200 on a Steam copy.
KojiKnight
Member
Buying 'kay
You're 100% of the problem.
The PS3 version was the one that had those things. It was the 360 one that didn't.
The story, characters (doesn't help that everyone of the cast is a stereotype) and it often reminds you of some bad fanics.
The gameplay is really good at times and the battle system is still among my favorites.
It could have been a great game with a more serious tone and different characters.
Deal breaker right there, this is a title that desperately needs some quality of life mods. It's also an 8 years old game, WTF Squareenix
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Not sure about this. I love SO1 PSP, SO2 and SO3 but 4....kind of killed my love of the franchise. I mean good gameplay is one thing, but when the characters are incredibly bad and the story sucks too...kind of hard to get into it. I'll see when it releases. Maybe I'll give it another chance.
You think Nappy Time is the worst that it can get?
Just wait until you see a 8-year old looking cat girl in fetish gear, a 23 year old woman who constantly acts like a 65 year old cougar, a woman with bird wings who... is not all together up there, and Faize.
Yeah, Sarah annoyed me much more than Lymle did, but the two of them together in the same cast is just like more than any one person should be forced to endure.
I think Sarah annoyed me more because I had already read about how annoying Lymle would be before I started the game, but nobody warned me about Sarah.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I enjoyed the combat of SO4 but i personally hate everything else about it, especially character models.
Their face looks like realistic dolls with no proper expression. I actually i dont whats up with tri-Ace's art direction these days. Even with Star Ocean 5 they went with much more anime art style but with realistic textures and lighting which made them look more like anime figures instead.
Their face looks like realistic dolls with no proper expression. I actually i dont whats up with tri-Ace's art direction these days. Even with Star Ocean 5 they went with much more anime art style but with realistic textures and lighting which made them look more like anime figures instead.
And I think that is the biggest issue with the story; a lot of the Lymle stuff is absolutely terrible, but if you're just watching a bad scene on YouTube, it's one and done. Sadly no one ever makes it to Sarah scenes like Fly High (which is probably worse than Nappy Time esque Lymle scenes)
But it just starts compounding things; Faize is annoying, Lymle is bad enough, but then Sarah gets into the mix, Anime Buzz Lightyear's deadpan humor almost always misses the mark, and Myuria spends every waking moment teasing Edge for being a little boy despite how a) he's a goddamn adult, and b) she is like three years older than him. The story and characters just start being oppressively and aggressively stupid the more you play.
They later introduce the most "ow the edge of the darkness cuts the soul like my (laser) scythe's blade" character ever, but I ended up liking him (and Reimi) because he was mostly completely inoffensive and a goddamn beast in battle (and the international edition plants the "no fun allowed" sign by making it way, way harder to get one of his most broken attacks).
What about this release ever made you think it would come out on disc. It's a remaster of a JRPG which is pretty universally considered one of the worst in the series besides the graphics and battle system that sold okish it begin with.
Oh, you'll get some cringe alright. More cheesy cliches, impossibly annoying character moments, and (ow, the) Edge than you can shake a stick at.
Lol if they remake/remaster RoF they're not going to get rid of one of the major mechanics. The hexagon system is woven into many aspects of the game.
I actually backtracked to nearly every town between each story advancement because the PAs (Private actions) were so good. I still somehow feel like i missed a ton of them though as I remember seeing a few with like Part 1 and didn't really see the others.
Tell me more and why
Blood Boal
Member
I can't understand why is S-E remastering this game and not other games like Valkirie Profile 2 Silmeria.
Hideki Kamiya
Banned
Still not buying it.
TheListOfToddicho
Member
I've only played Til The End Of Time, should I try and get this Star Ocean game?
Tri-ace games are incredibly weird. They even have their own checkbox/fixes in the stock emulator PCSX2 (and I think PSXe?).
To this day, you cannot emulate VP2 on a PC very well without some very special hacks and fixes that require you to turn off other features of the emulator. I believe even VP1 (and by extension, VPL) have some strange coding or wizardry or whatever that makes them difficult to emulate. There are ways around it, but it's not easy. I believe their are versions of the emulators released with special fixes. Long story short, it'd likely take a LOT of work (just on an emulation front, so I imagine brute force is out of the picture) for a potentially small audience. Actually porting/remastering the game is a different story, but I can't imagine it's easy or worth their time and money. As much of a champion as I am for the VP games, I wouldn't consider them massive hits with a huge potential audience.
This is also why I have a spare 60GB BC Launch PS3 handy and a PS2.
Perhaps SO4 is them testing the waters, though...
texhnolyze
Banned
I believe SE had their plans for old remaster and PC port releases. Everything will come eventually.
rainking187
Member
Man the yellow text on the dark background on the Steam store page advertising the soundtrack and discount is a real eyesore.
SixMachine
Member
Edge Maverick because that sounds like a rejected Megaman X boss. You know it's terrible when Bamboo Pandamonium is better than him.
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Ludger Kresnik
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Nothing is dumber than Edge Maverick.
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Come to think of it, I'd like also a Resonance of Fate HD version to see this cutscene in full 4k glory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVibNKrp8sQ
I only played SO 1&2 on PSP, and then SO5 recently on PS4, so I'm excited to give this a chance.
The cringey bad story writing and characters won't be too much of a detriment as long as the combat and gameplay is solid, heck some of the memes I've seen around SO4 are "so bad it's good" in a way that I could laugh at it, instead of just mashing the button to skip to the next scene
Also this coming to PC is a day 1 sale for me, I need to expand my JRPG library into infinity
The cringey bad story writing and characters won't be too much of a detriment as long as the combat and gameplay is solid, heck some of the memes I've seen around SO4 are "so bad it's good" in a way that I could laugh at it, instead of just mashing the button to skip to the next scene
Also this coming to PC is a day 1 sale for me, I need to expand my JRPG library into infinity
This is factually untrue. Except for the very first area of VP2 (which can be emulated fine if you just go for native resolution for the 30 seconds it takes to traverse the 2D level), the entirety of VP2 runs perfectly fine on PCSX2.
rainking187
Member
Seems pretty weird to implement Denuvo on a budget game.
Tizoc
Member
It's a publisher thing i guess?
They put it in Before the Storm too which is a unity game where Denuvo doesn't even protect the exe but a separate file that's much easier to crack. Pretty sure that past Hitman they just put it on every property they have.
S-E just put Denuvo on every title they have yeah.
The International version this is based on had dual audio.
UltraBosh64
Neo Member
I just played this last year [and despite most others' thoughts] I LOVED this game! So I'll be buying to play it again and support the brand!
It's seriously disheartening though that Square can bother to physically publish a motocross game, but not this or SoM remake....
It's seriously disheartening though that Square can bother to physically publish a motocross game, but not this or SoM remake....