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[ponpo]

e3: To be more clear, the character is getting this edit in the original Japanese release as well.

Original 4gamer interview
http://www.4gamer.net/games/298/G029832/20160322001/

小林氏：あと，海外からミキについて「ティーンがセクシャルな下着を着けているのは良くない」という指摘があって，布の面積を増やしたりもしました 。

http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/28/sq...-bigger-panties-in-fear-of-western-criticism/

In the interview, Star Ocean 5 character designer Akira Yasuda, director Hiroshi Ogawa, and producer Shuichi Kobayashi revealed that not only is the studio aware of western criticism of revealing female character designs, they’ve made changes to the game because of that very same western criticism.

“Recently there’s been a trend in games where if you put out a character that shows a lot of skin, later on you might have to make a lot of revisions, ‘although she’s erotic, there’s not a lot of skin showing’ is the feeling you get,” said Yasuda.

“In fact, it got a rating of C by CERO (Editor’s Note: Cero C is ages 15 or older),” Yasuda continued. He explained why the game’s spellcaster, Fiore, is wearing such a revealing outfit. “Fiore uses a lot of displayed crests on her skin to cast curses. That was part of her setting."

Finally, the developer confirmed they’ve slightly censored the game, in the form of Miki’s panties. You can view a comparison above, with the first image before the change, and the second image after the change.

“Recently, there’s been a lot of flak from overseas countries saying that if you put teens in ‘sexual’ underwear it’s not good,” said Kobayashi. “So we increased the amount of clothing.”

“How distressing (laughs),” Ogawa said in a follow up.

Arnita Sarcasimo and the Social Studies Warriors have done it again smfh.

e:
Japanese reactions
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8542569.html

Bonus

 

[Nightbird]

Wow at that bonus picture

 

[Neoleo2143]

It's actually somewhat refreshing to see feedback from overseas reach such a niche title, even though not many would likely have that camera angle anyway. I doubt Fiore changed though.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Damn you Armando Saskatchewan.

 

[orochi91]

"Way to prostrate yourselves to white masters, devs"

...

Yikes.

 

[bobawesome]

They're not wrong.

 

[chaobreaker]

Yasuda continued. He explained why the game’s spellcaster, Fiore, is wearing such a revealing outfit. “Fiore uses a lot of displayed crests on her skin to cast curses. That was part of her setting."

Her spells breathes through her skin, guys.

 

[LongDongJunon]

...

Yikes.

WOWZERS

 

[KirbYuuYuu]

We get less sexy underwear.... which doesn't solve anything really.

Band aid solution

 

[Nyoro SF]

The big bold DO NOT CONSORT WITH FOREIGNERS is remarkably humorous to me

 

[Soriku]

"gaijin are impossible" is making me laugh too hard.

I can't even see panties in the first comparison pic. Or anything except for a blur.

 

[MMarston]

Japanese reactions
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8542569.html

Bonus

Don't worry, Kenichi Smith will turn their opinion around

 

[Error]

lol at bonus pic.

 

[Ferr986]

Is this just about an underwear?

Come the fuck on, now lol

 

[Golnei]

Wait, this is in both the domestic and international version? That's absurd - do what you have to in order to allay the criticism of western reactionaries, but don't take a hatchet to the original game as well. This could set some really troubling precedents.

 

[chocoedd]

the "DO NOT CONSORT WITH FOREIGNERS" should be the game's OT title.

 

[Gurnlei]

That bonus picture. Some of it made me laugh and some of it made me sad.

 

[ponpo]

"gaijin are impossible" is making me laugh too hard.

I can't even see panties in the first comparison pic. Or anything except for a blur.

Exactly ( ≖‿&#8790

 

[Yellowflashdude]

I always found the outrage over this to be hypocritical. I mean just look at wonder woman in the recent Batman vs Superman movie.

 

[random25]

Dat outrage tho.

 

[mullet2000]

Her spells breathes through her skin, guys.

I really wonder at this point if Japanese devs are making up these dumb reasons for laughs.

 

[zerokoolpsx]

So much hate at that bonus pic. Damn.

 

[Error]

"All foreigners play are games where you slaughter people indifferently. So they got a lot of nerve to speak up about small things like this in other countries' games"

Well can't argue with that.

 

[rhandino]

Nintendo is out of control!!1!! I can not believe they are censoring games that are not even coming to their plataforms!

 

[Funyarinpa]

Sadly expected. Oh well, still ain't a big deal.


Also that picture was worth it MY SIDES

Spoiler

inclined to agree

I'd say inb4 censorship mockers but they're already here as expected

 

[encephalon]

It's a real crime. Now the character these fine gentlemen want to leer at will be showing slightly less skin, vastly reducing the value of the overall game. We should ask them what they think about women/female characters and what their importance lies beyond something they can objectify.

 

[zeromcd73]

howaito piggu ruining everything again

 

[Neoleo2143]

I always found the outrage over this to be hypocritical. I mean just look at wonder woman in the recent Batman vs Superman movie.

Wonder Woman is an established design that people are familiar with, they're not too likely to turn on it like newer designs. It's not exactly the best example I would use.

 

[SynthFetish]

Is it just me, or does the western edit look like she's in a diaper?

 

[blankempathy]

Is it just me, or does the western edit look like she's in a diaper?

My first thoughts.

 

[timetokill]

"All foreigners play are games where you slaughter people indifferently. So they got a lot of nerve to speak up about small things like this in other countries' games"

Got us dead to rights there

 

[Daft Punk]

Jokes on them. I like regular panties.

 

[Aters]

As long as this is still in the game, I am content.

I really wonder at this point if Japanese devs are making up these dumb reasons for laughs.

It's a part of the setting that has been around in the series for a long time.

 

[Abriael]

EDIT: Also LOL at the japanese reactions. Considering they DO censor the shit out of violent western games, they should shut the fuck up.

I don't remember Japanese publishers demanding the original games to be censored worldwide to comply with Japanese regulations (and we're talking about actual regulations here, not just fear of backlash).

The comparison doesn't exactly fit.

 

[Tyrus]

I know I'm not too fond of many weird censorship changes in gaming (more concerned about stupid text-based localisation changes like entire convos missing in FE: Fates) but this one isn't something to get angered by. If it does anger you, get help or go on Google images and just search up what you want there.

 

[Soulflarz]

DO NOT CONSORT WITH FOREIGNERS

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Nintendo is out of control!!1!! I can not believe they are censoring games that are not even coming to their plataforms!

Damn you noted Mario creator Sasperela Mitsubishi, your hold on Nintendo is too far.

 

[Necromanti]

Her spells breathes through her skin, guys.

Plus, he said the worry was that foreigners would find teens wearing sexy underwear as inappopriate, so I guess there's no concern if they're over 18.

 

[Ferr986]

I don't remember Japanese publishers demanding the original games to be censored to comply with Japanese regulation.

The comparison doesn't exactly fit.

Sorry, I did miss that this change also effects the japanese version.

Still... it's just an underwear change. It's not like they censored the titty witch.

 

[Mcdohl]

Is it just me, or does the western edit look like she's in a diaper?

'Dem grandma panties.

 

[bluethree]

The big bold DO NOT CONSORT WITH FOREIGNERS is remarkably humorous to me

Do not consort with foreigners! We cannot sanction their prudery.

 

[SolidSnakex]

EDIT: Also LOL at the japanese reactions. Considering they DO censor the shit out of violent western games, they should shut the fuck up.

They're pissed because the change applies to their version as well. Those changes to violent games only impact the Japanese releases.

 

[encephalon]

It doesn't say gaijin are impossible, it says "I don't understand the values of westerners" or "the values of westerners are impossible to understand."

外人の価値観はマジで理解不能

We can probably infer that they disagree with the notion that "you shouldn't sexualize teenagers."

Lol! Gaikoku is so puritanical. These Japanese people really know where it's at!

Spoiler

This will be ignored for the remainder of the thread.

 

[Newtype-001]

"gaijin are impossible" is making me laugh too hard.

I can't even see panties in the first comparison pic. Or anything except for a blur.

Same, along with
"DO NOT CONSORT WITH FOREIGNERS"
lmao

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

Underwear is serious business.

 

[JarrodL]

That "censored" shot looks like she's wearing a diaper, lol. Seems kind of ridiculous to be honest.

 

[DSix]

"All foreigners play are games where you slaughter people indifferently. So they got a lot of nerve to speak up about small things like this in other countries' games"

Dead on.

 

[Dusk Golem]

America: Where bigger is better™

 

[TatteredHat]

As long as this is still in the game, I am content.



It's a part of the setting that has been around in the series for a long time.

Pantyshots are overrated anyway, this is where it's at.

 

[Error]

Game is gonna get eviscerated in Amazon JP reviews, you don't fuck with otakus in Japan.