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[oagboghi2]

He gets everything right with this review, except for one part he overlooked: the acting in TLJ is freaking terrible. Now maybe some of that is the result of the rubbish script, but Rey aka Daisy aka British girl in particular looks like a total fish out of water in the film. Her delivery is awkward & she has weird facial expressions going on. When she's shooting from the Falcon at the end is particularly amateurish (@54:07, i.e. her "Wooo I like this!" with the look of someone beating a high score in a arcade shooter):



That's just one small example among a whole bunch of WTF acting moments which destroy the immersion. Domhnall Gleeson as Hux was another sh*t on a stick performance.

One other thing I really appreciate about this review was the bit about how the movie ended. They are all all so happy. Everyone is smiling and looking relieved....when like..you just lost. Badly. You're army is gone, Luke Skywalker, the last Jedi master is dead. The first order won. Completely

I mean, I could understand Rey being a bit cheerful since she knows what happened to Snoke, but shouldn't Poe be angry, Finn depressed. Why is Leia smiling, her brother is dead.

This review is bringing back a lot of bad memories.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

I watched the last jedi in the cinema. It is true what they say about suppressed memories. I didn't realize how much of the movie I had simply tuned out. It is so stupid plot wise that it hurts. I'd prefer sitting through any of the prequel trilogy films. This physically hurts to relive. Thanks Mr Plinkett.

 

[Saicows]

Awesome review...

I think the biggest problem of the movie is Rian Johnson. He had everything set to make an OK follow up to Abraham's movie... but thought he was smart enough to change the whole foundation of SW. I think Wisecrack has an awesome video on that:



And he could had do it if he didn't care enough about Disney or making everyone smile at the end. Imagine if Kylo Ren didnt end up "evil" at the end.. and really created an "grey" side to achiev an new middle ground on the galaxy?? That would breakthrough new ideas that could expand the universe and get away from the RIGHT\WRONG views of our society nowadays.

But... he's a bad writer and couldnt create anything. TLJ was a movie that leads us nowhere. Yeah, some characters died... but that's it. Didn't create anything new, doesn't bring anything and doesn't lead us nowhere.

 

[llien]

I don't think Disney is to blame, they were just trying to look for people who would make these movies. Little did they know that the people they hired had their own hidden agendas to mess them up.

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[brian0057]

OT > PT > ... > ST.

 

[thequestion]

This is the first Star Wars movie that’s actually skippable. Nothing happens except snoke dying(but he’s a nothing character) and Luke being weird and then dying.

The rebel forces being cut down to extreme low numbers is something that could be included in an opening crawl of a Star Wars movie. The ‘how’ and ‘why’ they where cut down was not interesting enough to base a movie on. (At lease with the script Disney went with...)

 

[LaughingStock]

I enjoyed the movie but i can't disagree with any of the criticism. And i understand why people hate the movie.

 

[kunonabi]

Laura Dern was also really bad in it, and she's usually not bad in things.

She's one of my favorite actresses but her character and performance were just dreadful.

Honestly, Driver was the only worthwhile performance.

Any yeah, it's a combination of Johnson's poor directing and a script that just didnt have anything for them to work with because the cast is very talented outside of Tran.

 

[Grinchy]

I watched the last jedi in the cinema. It is true what they say about suppressed memories. I didn't realize how much of the movie I had simply tuned out. It is so stupid plot wise that it hurts. I'd prefer sitting through any of the prequel trilogy films. This physically hurts to relive. Thanks Mr Plinkett.

My brain has been turned off sometimes while at the theater enough for bad movies to seem better than they are. A movie like The Avengers of Avatar seem really good in the theater. Then when I watch them at home later down the road, I realize how paper thin they are. The spectacle of the theater makes them a little bit better.

TLJ couldn't turn my brain off. It was one of the rare times where I found myself bored and annoyed while in the theater. I just couldn't stop questioning every horribly-written aspect and plot point laid out in front of me. And I went into it with excitement because I liked the way Ep7 set up the new trilogy.

 

[Halo is Back]

Awesome review...

I think the biggest problem of the movie is Rian Johnson. He had everything set to make an OK follow up to Abraham's movie... but thought he was smart enough to change the whole foundation of SW. I think Wisecrack has an awesome video on that:



And he could had do it if he didn't care enough about Disney or making everyone smile at the end. Imagine if Kylo Ren didnt end up "evil" at the end.. and really created an "grey" side to achiev an new middle ground on the galaxy?? That would breakthrough new ideas that could expand the universe and get away from the RIGHT\WRONG views of our society nowadays.

But... he's a bad writer and couldnt create anything. TLJ was a movie that leads us nowhere. Yeah, some characters died... but that's it. Didn't create anything new, doesn't bring anything and doesn't lead us nowhere.

That was an overly complicated video explaining that RJ back peddled his vision in the 3rd act

 

[eot]

I agree with most criticisms of the script. However, while this video was better than the abysmal TFA one, it still felt half-assed, as if he's only doing it out of a sense of obligation.

Also, TLJ just made me apathetic and it's hard to care enough to even trash it.

 

[Catphish]

The more I think about it, the more I arrive at the inevitable conclusion:

The original, non-fucked-with trilogy is great (giving RTJ the benefit of the doubt). And it made my childhood a better place. But everything that's come after it, except Rogue One, and perhaps Solo, has been utter shit.

The Special Editions: utter shit (except for the Cloud City imagery in Empire. That was dope).
The Prequel Trilogy: utter shit.
These new abominations: utter shit.

But I can't even enjoy the original trilogy anymore because you can't buy it without the added special bullshit. I have the digital complete saga or whatever-the-fuck on BluRay, and I don't even want to watch it. Ever. It's a complete waste of money and space.

I think I've arrived at my final destination. Star Wars is a joke now. It's a corpse, propped up and reanimated by CGI and marketing. Whatever it was is gone, never to return.

It's time to say goodbye.

 

[ickythingz]

Episode 8 made no sense. At the end,

Spoiler

they send out a distress call and NO ONE answers

. I guess that means NO ONE wants to go the rebellion route and actually would like to have some stability with a Republic/Empire. Take the hint rebels.

This movie was so bad it set up literally nothing for 9.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

My brain has been turned off sometimes while at the theater enough for bad movies to seem better than they are. A movie like The Avengers of Avatar seem really good in the theater. Then when I watch them at home later down the road, I realize how paper thin they are. The spectacle of the theater makes them a little bit better.

TLJ couldn't turn my brain off. It was one of the rare times where I found myself bored and annoyed while in the theater. I just couldn't stop questioning every horribly-written aspect and plot point laid out in front of me. And I went into it with excitement because I liked the way Ep7 set up the new trilogy.

Indeed, I get this too. It is different if you're a fan though.

But I can't even enjoy the original trilogy anymore because you can't buy it without the added special bullshit. I have the digital complete saga or whatever-the-fuck on BluRay, and I don't even want to watch it. Ever. It's a complete waste of money and space.

You can get the unfucked original trilogy (non special) on Laser Disc. It's a hefty price to pay though. Most laser disc players are starting to fail, and most original laser discs are starting to rot. Failing that there's always VHS. But that's like 360p and in 4:3.

 

[brian0057]

Indeed, I get this too. It is different if you're a fan though.



You can get the unfucked original trilogy (non special) on Laser Disc. It's a hefty price to pay though. Most laser disc players are starting to fail, and most original laser discs are starting to rot. Failing that there's always VHS. But that's like 360p and in 4:3.

Download the Despecialized Edition of the original trilogy. They're amazing.

 

[kunonabi]

Indeed, I get this too. It is different if you're a fan though.



You can get the unfucked original trilogy (non special) on Laser Disc. It's a hefty price to pay though. Most laser disc players are starting to fail, and most original laser discs are starting to rot. Failing that there's always VHS. But that's like 360p and in 4:3.

There is also a DVD release that has the old versions as a bonus feature.

 

[Weiji]

I’ve been thinking about what he said about the villains and I really think he’s got something there.

The old movie villains were calm and collected, cold and business like. They were meant to be a space Nazis and so they acted as you would expect real Nazis to act.

The new movies use the visual cues of nazism, the colors, symbols, dress code. But they make the Nazis out to be hysterical comical monsters. This also requires making them out to be fools, since angry psycho is opposite an intellectual.

In an interesting way I think it reflects the view of nazism from the left in general. Shifting from the reality of calculated unfeeling intelligence, towards a rabid dogma for angry people.

 

[Kadayi]

I think the most notable point is how at the end they're all celebrating, which is just so jarring given all the losses they've sustained. The tonal shifts are those of a perpetual amnesiac, unable to remember whats come before.

 

[Halo is Back]

I think the most notable point is how at the end they're all celebrating, which is just so jarring given all the losses they've sustained. The tonal shifts are those of a perpetual amnesiac, unable to remember whats come before.

I kinda of feel like it was Disney's decision like they didn't want to make the movie too sad. As crap as the movie was I would have at least respected RJ if Kilyo and Rye both went on their way and finally say fuck this stupid fight. Kilyo destroys the new order and the resistance is already annihilated. That would at least do something different and audicenes would be left wondering whats going to happen next. But no, now we just continue the status quo for this long tired conflict that is already a rehash of the original trilogy.

 

[MilkyJoe]

The more I think about it, the more I arrive at the inevitable conclusion:

The original, non-fucked-with trilogy is great (giving RTJ the benefit of the doubt). And it made my childhood a better place. But everything that's come after it, except Rogue One, and perhaps Solo, has been utter shit.

The Special Editions: utter shit (except for the Cloud City imagery in Empire. That was dope).
The Prequel Trilogy: utter shit.
These new abominations: utter shit.

But I can't even enjoy the original trilogy anymore because you can't buy it without the added special bullshit. I have the digital complete saga or whatever-the-fuck on BluRay, and I don't even want to watch it. Ever. It's a complete waste of money and space.

I think I've arrived at my final destination. Star Wars is a joke now. It's a corpse, propped up and reanimated by CGI and marketing. Whatever it was is gone, never to return.

It's time to say goodbye.

Ho Ho Ho

Santa porn is here...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_..._nkw=star+wars+despecialized+blu+ray&_sacat=0

I have a set, they look great

 

[Super Mario]

It's amazing how many people out there first enjoyed the movie, but then had their opinions swayed once they read online. "You know, you're right. They were going over serious info, that ruins it for me because doubles in the back were talking instead of listening! Kills the whole mood!" Reviews are the biggest reason we don't enjoy films as much anymore. If a New Hope came out today, I'm confident the world would shit on it.

Look, there were some crappy scenes in the movie. Plinkett wasn't really wrong in any of his points. I have no love loss for Disney inserting Liberal propaganda into everything we see. With that said, everything Star Wars is going to be criticized. TFA was torn apart for being too much of the same. Biggest complaint. Then TLJ was too different. What do they do to make everyone happy? Really?

 

[oagboghi2]

It's amazing how many people out there first enjoyed the movie, but then had their opinions swayed once they read online. "You know, you're right. They were going over serious info, that ruins it for me because doubles in the back were talking instead of listening! Kills the whole mood!" Reviews are the biggest reason we don't enjoy films as much anymore. If a New Hope came out today, I'm confident the world would shit on it.

Look, there were some crappy scenes in the movie. Plinkett wasn't really wrong in any of his points. I have no love loss for Disney inserting Liberal propaganda into everything we see. With that said, everything Star Wars is going to be criticized. TFA was torn apart for being too much of the same. Biggest complaint. Then TLJ was too different. What do they do to make everyone happy? Really?

Make a good, original movie. Make something that isn't littered with plotholes. Have a consistent tone and theme. Write characters that act with some level of intelligence.

You admitted yourself Plinkett isn't wrong, so what is your point? That we should love the movie despite the numerous flaws?

 

[120v]

review was a good point-by-point on why the movie didn't work. imo TLJ is different from other "bad" star wars movies in that it doesn't really commit any cardinal sins. the whole thing just didn't come together well at all

 

[Pagusas]

Ho Ho Ho

Santa porn is here...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_..._nkw=star+wars+despecialized+blu+ray&_sacat=0

I have a set, they look great

That cant be legal...

 

[Catphish]

Ho Ho Ho

Santa porn is here...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_..._nkw=star+wars+despecialized+blu+ray&_sacat=0

I have a set, they look great

I have just met you.

And I love you.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

I agreed with all of this video. Mostly.

 

[Domisto]

Will this make sense to someone who hasn't seen TLJ because I've no intention of watching it. Reason being I luv the Plinkett prequel vids and thought they were way too soft and unfocused on TFA (fair enough they seemed to quite like it but I thought it more crap than good and have abandoned Star Wars). So is this one back on target, funny/clever/rips it a new one etc? Or will I be too lost to make it worth watching?

 

[MilkyJoe]

I have just met you.

And I love you.

My pleasure x

 

[Harlock]

For most dumb the prequels were, at least they got right the mood in the end of each movie.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Will this make sense to someone who hasn't seen TLJ because I've no intention of watching it. Reason being I luv the Plinkett prequel vids and thought they were way too soft and unfocused on TFA (fair enough they seemed to quite like it but I thought it more crap than good and have abandoned Star Wars). So is this one back on target, funny/clever/rips it a new one etc? Or will I be too lost to make it worth watching?

As I saw TLJ I can't rightfully answer this for you, but I assume you'd be able to follow along. I think it'd make the entire movie seem really bad, as there were some good parts to the movie that are not covered much (since it's not that kind of balanced review).

I thought it was funny though.

"Remember kids, if he sounds like a Snake, it's a mistake!"

 

[Future]

The comedy comparison was the best part. Everyone is an idiot, heroes and villains alike. And all the rebellion deaths at the end were a result of a bunch of stupid ass mistakes.... not misfortune. So everyone being happy at the end..... yeah they should all be distraught not just cuz the death count, but all those damn mistakes

 

[pel1300]

omg LOL..found this comment from youtube that I'll share:

Guys,

I don't think you understand the nuance of Rey. Here's the thing: Rey has no force powers. Rey has a different power, the power of FEMINISM. Every time a man fails in her presence her power activates and she becomes super-talented at whatever the man failed doing. In Ep 7, Kylo tries to tamper with her mind using the force. He fails, obviously, and thus Rey becomes super-talented at it and dominates her guard. Then Finn tries to defend her using a lightsaber at the end. He fails, obviously because men always fail, and thus Rey becomes super-talented at lightsaber duels. Then finally, in Episode 8, Rey meets Luke Skywalker, who is apparently the BIGGEST FAILURE EVER IN EVERYTHING. Thus while standing in his presence Rey becomes SUPER TALENTED IN EVERYTHING, and masters all her Jedi training in 2 days.

 

[pel1300]

PS - Anyone watch "Lucasfilm/The Last Jedi vs. Marvel Studios/Infinity war: The Marvel difference" on youtube?

This video perfectly illustrates why...while both under Disney, the MCU is killing it and Star Wars is not these days.

 

[MilkyJoe]

not misfortune. So everyone being happy at the end..... yeah they should all be distraught not just cuz the death count, but all those damn mistakes

This is the worst part of the movie...

Empire ended with Han gone and Leia and Luke looking out into space, feeling helpless, whilst the perfectly sad music crescendos.

Rian Johnson, apart from the entire movie of course, proved that he has no idea what he is doing and should never have been give the job.

God he's such a wanker

 

[LegendOfKage]

Rian Johnson, apart from the entire movie of course, proved that he has no idea what he is doing and should never have been give the job.

Looper was pretty good, though. I'll give him that.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Looper was pretty good, though. I'll give him that.

He used to be a pretty critically acclaimed filmmaker, his name sure is mud now.

omg LOL..found this comment from youtube that I'll share:

Guys,

I don't think you understand the nuance of Rey. Here's the thing: Rey has no force powers. Rey has a different power, the power of FEMINISM. Every time a man fails in her presence her power activates and she becomes super-talented at whatever the man failed doing. In Ep 7, Kylo tries to tamper with her mind using the force. He fails, obviously, and thus Rey becomes super-talented at it and dominates her guard. Then Finn tries to defend her using a lightsaber at the end. He fails, obviously because men always fail, and thus Rey becomes super-talented at lightsaber duels. Then finally, in Episode 8, Rey meets Luke Skywalker, who is apparently the BIGGEST FAILURE EVER IN EVERYTHING. Thus while standing in his presence Rey becomes SUPER TALENTED IN EVERYTHING, and masters all her Jedi training in 2 days.

Ouch, it's even worse than I thought, fuck these movies.

What's a real waste is they finally brought back the original trio of Han, Luke and Leia and it was for..... this.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Looper was pretty good, though. I'll give him that.

Well Looper wasn't part two of a trilogy, so maybe he fluked that one...

What's a real waste is they finally brought back the original trio of Han, Luke and Leia and it was for..... this.

They should be beaten to a pulp for what they did, or rather what they didn't do.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Well Looper wasn't part two of a trilogy, so maybe he fluked that one...



They should be beaten to a pulp for what they did, or rather what they didn't do.

It's gotta be one of the greatest missed opportunities in film history.

In hindsight, we really should have left most of these 70s/80s film franchises in their respective decades, Indiana Jones is another example.

Then again Blade Runner 2049 was excellent, maybe you just need the right talent, imagine what Denis Villeneuve could have done with Star Wars.

 

[MilkyJoe]

It's gotta be one of the greatest missed opportunities in film history.

In hindsight, we really should have left most of these 70s/80s film franchises in their respective decades, Indiana Jones is another example.

Then again Blade Runner 2049 was excellent, maybe you just need the right talent, imagine what Denis Villeneuve could have done with Star Wars.

Agreed, and If they really had to do something, why didn't they just have a whole new story with whole new characters, if they wanted to have Jedi and sith, then maybe a cameo of Luke as the master at the academy a few scenes with Han and Leia and then go off and have all the fun they wanted, using the EU, and a teenage Skywalker.

They did not have to create Jake Skywalker, reverse Han's arc, Leia Poppins and kill off Akbar without even the slightest mention. The latter seldom gets a mention, but it really fucked me off. The consistent disrespect for the characters and that "forget the past, kill it if you have to" - Did Kennedy hate Lucas or something? Is this some revenge for making to many coffees? TLJ seems more about destroying Star Wars then being part 2 of a trilogy, i mean, where does it go from here

It amazes me that Disney seemed to have not realized that they bought a fanbase as part of that 4 billion, and they are 50% pissed right now. The only thing I can think of that will win back the actual fans, not the Reylos, is to just finish off this trilogy, it's pretty much a write off, and then do a post RotJ trilogy, Starring Hamill, at the academy, and lets have some Jedi Academy type story. What they did with Luke is the key problem. You can see it all over Hamill's face.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Agreed, and If they really had to do something, why didn't they just have a whole new story with whole new characters, if they wanted to have Jedi and sith, then maybe a cameo of Luke as the master at the academy a few scenes with Han and Leia and then go off and have all the fun they wanted, using the EU, and a teenage Skywalker.

They did not have to create Jake Skywalker, reverse Han's arc, Leia Poppins and kill off Akbar without even the slightest mention. The latter seldom gets a mention, but it really fucked me off. The consistent disrespect for the characters and that "forget the past, kill it if you have to" - Did Kennedy hate Lucas or something? Is this some revenge for making to many coffees? TLJ seems more about destroying Star Wars then being part 2 of a trilogy, i mean, where does it go from here

It amazes me that Disney seemed to have not realized that they bought a fanbase as part of that 4 billion, and they are 50% pissed right now. The only thing I can think of that will win back the actual fans, not the Reylos, is to just finish off this trilogy, it's pretty much a write off, and then do a post RotJ trilogy, Starring Hamill, at the academy, and lets have some Jedi Academy type story. What they did with Luke is the key problem. You can see it all over Hamill's face.

I can see what they were going for with TLJ, they wanted to be bold and take risks, I haven't played it yet but didn't KOTOR 2 get a lot of praise for it's story that actually seems critical of Star Wars mythos?

But.... they failed.

And I like how Mark Hamill still tries to give it his all though, I love that guy.

 

[Cunth]

I feel sorry for Mark Hamill. His defining character's fate handed over to some young inexperienced director.

 

[MilkyJoe]

I feel sorry for Mark Hamill. His defining character's fate handed over to some young inexperienced director.

Yah just a couple of days ago someone asked him what happened and he said something along the lines of "when I know I'll let you know"

At least we still have the joker.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I feel sorry for Mark Hamill. His defining character's fate handed over to some young inexperienced director.

Especially considering how much he struggled with his career post SW, finding his biggest post SW success in voice acting.

He finally comes back to SW and it's..... this.

I love me some Luke Skywalker though man and it was great to see him back in any capacity as wasted as it was, the moment when he confronted Kylo Ren was fucking incredible until.... it turned out he wasn't really there.

But then it seemed like he was gonna live to fight another day and that was great.... until he died anyway.

 

[Cunth]

Hope he gets some good ghost scenes in the next one at least

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

The fact that the movie faked you out so bad, making you think he was gonna live to fight another day, only for him to just die anyway for seemingly no reason, man, that's some bullshit.

 

[Cunth]

Pointless too. Why not have him live for the next one?

 

[pel1300]

Luke at Crait was so set up as *Yay Luke is back for good now....and we will see him in FULL GLORY in the next movie*

but no.........they had to do another "You thought that was where we were going? no, GOTCHA hahhahahah!"

 

[Iceternal]

I would've preferred if he was physically there and Kylo killed him instead of him randomly dying like that.

 

[Drake]

Can't wait for all the articles from the media calling Red letter media racist and misogynistic.

 

[pel1300]

Can't wait for all the articles from the media calling Red letter media racist and misogynistic.

nah that's just resetera....and maybe youtube comments.

seriously, look up "The last plinkett review resetera forum".....filled with people asking "Is he accusing the movie of having SJW crap in it!?? I am not clicking on it to give ad revenue if it does so please tell me!"

or....

"OMG he mentioned that Holdo has purple hair...alt right!!!"