That one is beautiful. Not a "traditional" Haiku, but still nice.
Oooh, that one is really nice too.
Thats going to be a tough choice in the end.
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Starseed Pilgrim - Searching for Starseeds Man [out now on Steam]
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That one is beautiful. Not a "traditional" Haiku, but still nice.
Oooh, that one is really nice too.
Thats going to be a tough choice in the end.
Crazymoogle
Member
Fez was much easier to understand.
I get that you jump higher on certain materials, but if you reach any of the black areas, it's game over. Again. Even RPS seems to have hit that wall.
Anyway, the gameplay vids seem to make it a bit more sensical but...not much. I like the atmosphere but probably would not have bought it based on a (theoretical) demo. Maybe it unlocks further down the line, I'll come back to it in the future, I guess
flashbandit16
Member
Played this for 40 minutes and got the
but I did not understand exactly what I had done. So I was about the make an angry post that I wasted $6.
I decided to stop and think about what exactly I was trying to accomplish.
So after that I think is a cool game but I think I will play it in small chunks, like every time I
I will stop.
key to the lock
I decided to stop and think about what exactly I was trying to accomplish.
When it finally hit me that I had seeds after bringing the key to the lock which made me think that growing the first world is as significant as the second. So after returning the game, twenty minutes later I reach a another island and I received an upgrade.
get a key to a lock
Purchase and haven't gotten a steam key yet. Just playing off the desktop. Does anybody know how to save the game? Does it autosave?
Enjoying it a lot but don't want to lose my progress (yes, progress
)
ALSO: Once you cross that initial hump of learning:
Does the game really have anything new to offer beyond that point?
Enjoying it a lot but don't want to lose my progress (yes, progress
)ALSO: Once you cross that initial hump of learning:
Connect to lock, Get key, collect heart, build base to new base, repeat
I have one big question about this thread. I rather like the idea of not being told anything, and discovering. But, your post had a picture in it of something, yourI like my tree
Also, for other Indie Games like these, check out the Indie Games thread!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517647
tree
you're constructing during the game
Also, like Chrysalis, I'd like to know whether the game autosaves before I buy it and potentially lose progress. =P
Not to worry...if it is a spoiler, it spoils only the first 3 minutes.
mambadragon
Banned
It does autosave.
Unless Toma knows something I don't, he did that tree for fun and is unrelated to the "ojectives". It's neat to see that Starseed has things in common with Minecraft though
Chrysalis said:
Check the guide in the OP
.Thanks for the replies both of you. I'll pick it up. How often does it autosave? Does it give you any indication like an icon?It does autosave.
Unless Toma knows something I don't, he did that tree for fun and is unrelated to the "ojectives". It's neat to see that Starseed has things in common with Minecraft though
Check the guide in the OP
mambadragon
Banned
Well it definitely saves when you close the executable. It never crashed on me so I don't know how/if it intermediatly saves.
SteveWinwood
Member
After an hour I definitely figured some stuff out. Gonna have to keep going I guess though.
Messofanego
Banned
The fuck is going on?! Haha! Too unique for its own damn sake.
I don't know what to do in the dark dimension, I saw someone being able to go down from the "home ward" sign to the next screen.
Well, at least I'm figuring out what each seed does.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH figured it out.
I don't know what to do in the dark dimension, I saw someone being able to go down from the "home ward" sign to the next screen.
Well, at least I'm figuring out what each seed does.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH figured it out.
Messofanego
Banned
Now that I know how to get the key to the lock, do I go for a key to another lock somewhere else
This is my first roguelike btw
? Cause it feels like I'm going in circles.Now that I know how to get the key to the lock, do I go for a key to another lock somewhere else
This is my first roguelike btw
Haha, apparently. Because its not a roguelike
And to your spoilered question:
Explore more and think about how to do that.
Messofanego
Banned
Haha, apparently. Because its not a roguelike
And to your spoilered question:Explore more and think about how to do that.
Well, then. Thanks for making me read a pointless spoiler XD
FrontalMonk
Banned
picked up this game on a whim last night, got frustrated after about 15 minutes and quit. I'll give it another shot tonight after work, but (super early spoilers, but since we're spoilering basically everything in here)
it feels like what you get from planting seeds is completely random, so there's no way to know what you're going to get/how you're going to go in any given direction. I've run out of seeds and then thrown myself into the darkness and reset because I got frustrated that there was nowhere to really go.
Its not random.
FrontalMonk
Banned
Well, after playing an hour or two, I managed to possibly reset my progress by
, unless that was some sort of meta artistic message. I also managed to get to a single
. I am hoping that
accidentally finding a WARNING EVERYTHING WILL BE DELETED screen and getting the starting screen reset back with pink blocks
new platform as a starting point after finding a ghost guy with an angel message
continuing to look for more platforms is the correct thing to do, and there's a correct "ending" to the game rather than procedural platform generation.
I think Blow is overselling this game a bit. I mean I love the idea of getting to figure out mechanics and meaning on your own, but it seems to me like the game focuses more on the moments of discovery than on the things you discover, if that makes sense? None of the mechanics have felt to me particularly satisfying or interesting to use. Of course it's cool to go "oooh, that's how it works," but that feeling only lasts for so long. Having seen some of Blow's talks it's no surprise that he loves it though since a lot of his focus is on creating experiences like that.
I believe Blow tweeted something to the extent of "if you still have questions, you should keep playing," which I think is sound advice. It's just that after about an hour, while there were still questions, I didn't really feel compelled to ask them...
I believe Blow tweeted something to the extent of "if you still have questions, you should keep playing," which I think is sound advice. It's just that after about an hour, while there were still questions, I didn't really feel compelled to ask them...
mambadragon
Banned
The discovery is the first part of the game, but there are challenges based on mechanics. I actually should amend my original post - they are actually damn hard! I think as more people play the game there will be some cool YouTube videos that at least show the mechanics are interesting, well thought out, etc. That said I enjoyed the discovery element of the game most, but that's a personal preference.
I think Blow's quote is actually great for how to approach Starseed or any other game. If you feel that you've had enough or don't like it then stop playing - it's a game. The game isn't for everyone, but I don't think anyone could say it flat out "sucks". Hell that's another great thing about Starseed - it unapologetically does not aim to be a people pleaser or a product of focus testing. There's no feedback loop either, not even a Zelda treasure chest melody or Gears of War dong.
Yeah it definitely doesn't suck and I think it would be really cool to get hooked on a game that's so completely curiosity driven. I mean curiosity is a pretty basic human response yet it's so rarely used as the main driving force in games. I think the "genre" has a lot of potential and possibly Starseed will not be insignificant to its evolution.
Another game I think is cool in this regard is the binding of isaac. Of course it's not as overtly about discovery as starseed, and it's obvious how you're supposed to progress -- but it's similar in the sense that all it tells you is how to move and shoot and the rest you pretty much have to figure out yourself. So yeah while Starseed in particular wasn't really for me, I love what it does and I hope it inspires many games.
electricpirate
Member
My terrible haiku
gave wife my starseed
now no money for new games
indy replenish soul
gave wife my starseed
now no money for new games
indy replenish soul
As a curiosity-based game, we should rename this to "curiosity: what's around the cube" or something. I'm sure if we compared it to the Peter Molyneux experiment, people would love to try it out.
There is a bit of a feedback loop early I think. While there may be no XP popups or stuff, one sound effect I -really- like is the red block.
There is a bit of a feedback loop early I think. While there may be no XP popups or stuff, one sound effect I -really- like is the red block.
tick tick tick BRANG
mambadragon
Banned
As a curiosity-based game, we should rename this to "curiosity: what's around the cube" or something. I'm sure if we compared it to the Peter Molyneux experiment, people would love to try it out.
There is a bit of a feedback loop early I think. While there may be no XP popups or stuff, one sound effect I -really- like is the red block.tick tick tick BRANG
Yeah I'll edit out the Sugar Man stuff tonight and ask a mod to change the title after work.
And yeah that's a great sound.
Visualante2
Member
Feeling kinda lost right now. I've seen a few things that I need to do but it's hard finding them reliably.
What did you accomplish? (spoiler tag it)
Visualante2
Member
I've found
a handful of suits. I've seen triple star locks but haven't been able to unlock one yet. Kinda feels like a bit of a grind collecting seeds even with the green suit.
Not really looking for hints as I do find stuff each time I play, just felt like sharing my thoughts. The game is getting
a little more cryptic as I play on.
mambadragon
Banned
Visualante2
Member
Glitch related to the ending
So I stumbled across the credits or some sort of game over screen by accident... pretty weird. Not sure what I did, didn't make any sense to me either way, but worth noting the warning.
Thats not the ending.
Visualante2
Member
RE: Post 85 Fuck.
I manage to open the 3 key lock I was mentioning earlier and I screwed it up on the next screen. I hate it when games punish you like that.
Messofanego
Banned
Here's a hint that everyone should take but I was too stupid to realise until a few hours in, will will spoiler just in case:
XD
Am up to here, and it's a bitch when you can't shovel the blocks. This is when you've got to really pay attention to what seeds you want to plant. FUCK YOU DARK GREEN!
Made a lot of progress, got to the 2nd
.
2 keys feels good, I wonder what 3 keys would do...oh well, that'll have to wait till tomorrow.
Reds are a lifesaver.
This game is weird.
The levels are not where you should be getting better at, it's your homebase. Had completely opposite goal in mind. That homebase you come back to each screen is a garden that can also be planted on! I thought the concrete stuff wouldn't be able to.
Am up to here, and it's a bitch when you can't shovel the blocks. This is when you've got to really pay attention to what seeds you want to plant. FUCK YOU DARK GREEN!
Made a lot of progress, got to the 2nd
suit
2 keys feels good, I wonder what 3 keys would do...oh well, that'll have to wait till tomorrow.
Reds are a lifesaver.
This game is weird.
Grah, cant decide between these two:
What say you, guys?
Edit:
Grah, whatever. I like them both! I'll pm them and buy it once as a gift for the other one.
What say you, guys?
Edit:
Grah, whatever. I like them both! I'll pm them and buy it once as a gift for the other one.
Capital_Five
Member
Played for a couple hours making some solid progress. Now I'm over it. Feel like it's probably just more
That's cool but the core gameplay mechanic just doesn't seem like it's 5 more hours worth of fun. Neat concept though and the whole presentation is pretty slick. Worth 5 bucks.
cryptic messages and suits and base building.
mambadragon
Banned
As a heads up, a lot of YouTube videos are up that spoil the discovery part of the game.
Messofanego
Banned
Starseed Pilgrim is a fun game to play in the background. Played loads while listening to the latest Bombcast and they mention the game just as I was playing!
But just because it's an abstract exploration/gardening sim, doesn't mean it's relaxing when black holes are out to eat you!
But just because it's an abstract exploration/gardening sim, doesn't mean it's relaxing when black holes are out to eat you!
mambadragon
Banned
Yeah hopefully Starseed will get more attention when Klepek plays it.
I feel like this may be the case, unless someone can confirm that it changes significantly after 6 hours or 8 hours or something when you reach the actual ending.
Exploration is there, but I'm not sure how compelling the exploration actually is. That part could perhaps be better.