Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Okay, then my question is still valid: what Apple fellating?sooperkool said:
And lol @ the fanboy war talk.
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Steve Jobs on HDTV, "I finally cracked it."
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And lol @ the fanboy war talk.
Salvor.Hardin
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HDTVs are horrible. The calibration required to get your hd console or bluray player to take full advantage of your television is reason enough for a streamlined Apple HDTV.
This thread sounds like the same old same old comments you always hear about a new Apple product. It happened with the iPod, with the iPhone, and the iPad. "Sure it will be cool, but cost twice as much" "Easy to use, but half the features" blah blah blah. We've heard all of this countless times before and yet every time once the product is used out in the real world, it takes over and changes everything we thought we knew about mp3 players/phones/tablets. You'd think people would learn by now, but here we are again. "What's wrong with what works now? Remotes and channels are fine." "What's wrong with my windows mobile smartphone? It already does everything I need".
If this TV does indeed become a reality true to Job's vision, I can already see this thread looking very similar to something like this.
(Pretty fun read)
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500
If this TV does indeed become a reality true to Job's vision, I can already see this thread looking very similar to something like this.
(Pretty fun read)
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500
gutter_trash
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where would I plug in my PS3 in one of these things?
mother f&ckaa
mother f&ckaa
TheDiabolical
I didn't read my own avatar and now everyone knows I'm not too bright. :(
Cereal KiIIer said:
and only have it for 24 hours.....such a bargain
Give me a better way to navigate through the hundreds of channels + VOD and I am there. I can search my STB, but the search is awful. I can browse, but I have to go through each premium channel separately. I can use my iPod as a remote, but its just a crappy 1:1 clone. Give me a true visual touchscreen remote and I am there. The idea of "channels" is useless in this day and age
Also, sexy design and pre-calibrate it
Also, sexy design and pre-calibrate it
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Would cost 3x as much as other, similar TVs, and only let you watch Apple-approved channels and movies (meaning no porn).
dream
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Quadrangulum
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Salvor.Hardin said:
I agree it's annoying but I'm not sure how an Apple HDTV would fix that.
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Quadrangulum said:
Which is why you're not making products at Apple!
My hope for future home entertainment and the technology we use in our daily lives is that it becomes even more streamlined and intuitive. Signs are already pointing in that direction with MS Kinect, DD and streaming content, and the advent of speech recognition coupled with search engine capabilities like Siri.
I can imagine all that in a home entertainment setup where a remote would be a relic of the past. My tv can already do half those things.
I can imagine all that in a home entertainment setup where a remote would be a relic of the past. My tv can already do half those things.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I trust Steve Jobs to know what Steve Jobs is planning rather than Gene Munster who's been randomly guessing about this thing for like a decade.Bboy AJ said:
Roll the dice enough and eventually you'll get the desired result.sangreal said:
Right, that's what I meant. Looking at it from a system perspective, there really needs to be that nexus or hub that I mentioned before to move that base-level interaction away from the traditional remote functionality. With the center of the Apple ecosystem moving to the cloud, it makes sense for the shift to move in that direction as opposed to apple TV which many people thought would be the bridge that Apple uses to get into the living room.
Yeah, I own one of these and it's crap for the following reasons.Cereal KiIIer said:Pretty simple
1. Resistive Touchscreen that's worse than DS Phat.
Really slow to respond and you have to give a decent push.
It's also incredibly fragile. It cracked from falling onto carpet and half is unusable now.
It's old, it really needs a new kind of LCD in there. Especially for what they charge for this thing. Hitting some of the smaller buttons like Help and Devices is actually kind of difficult to do consistently.
2. Dat Logitech Software
Years later and they're still using this crap? Too many menus, slow, and ugly.
AND I had to set everything up again despite using other Harmony remotes. Apparently the settings couldn't transfer over despite everything being exactly the same.
I would never give this kind of device to anyone that doesn't have some technical thinking skill like my mom without setting it up for them. Way too much of a hassle for them.
I'm about to sell it and get a standard Harmony like the One because, well, I still need a remote, like it or not.
I want to try the new Harmony link for my iPad. The terrible early reviews for it have been holding me back.
Would love for Apple or another company to clean it up.
Escape Goat
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Did anyone read the OP? He isn't talking about creating an Apple HDTV. He's talking about creating a HDTV that integrates a lot of different devices into one intuitive and easy to use HDTV. Thats what Jobs did best.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Why would you need to make TVs for this?cory. said:
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I've always thought the logical conclusion was just airplay mirroring for OSX.
At least for me. Goddamn want that so bad.
At least for me. Goddamn want that so bad.
Marty Chinn
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sangreal said:
You just can't calibrate a TV and it be equal across all displays. There is a variance such as the screen itself, temperature, lighting condition and so forth that affect how you calibrate a screen.
sangreal said:
Some are though like Pioneer.
Dreams-Visions
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have you tried the "Smart TV" menu systems on most televisions? or their widgets/apps? Even the latest, most expensive ones are utterly retarded with bad interfaces, slow responses and hit/miss ease of connecting to your local network for content streaming.Ether_Snake said:
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I wonder how many guys saying things like this know how to wash and dry their own clothes.Bad_Boy said:
RobotChant
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There's nothing to crack. The answer is already available. Television is about content, and the next step is content that is accessible anytime you want. The content/cable providers don't want to play and has done their best to stymie innovation. The Apple TV and Google TV can still be expanded upon, but they've not taken off because the content/cable providers don't want them to.
Ill still be surprised if Apple sells a massive big screen TV. Apple has had a hard time getting TV companies to provide them with content at the prices and conditions they want (e.g.: tv show rentals and lower episode prices) and I doubt theyll be able to get the type of a la carte pricing they would want to make a unified TV interface a reality.
I see the church of Apple is in full force today.
Whether or not they're right or wrong, I do bear in mind when reading through these discussions that Apple activates the brand/team/religion loyalties parts of peoples brains more than any other company/brand/team/religion out there.
Personally I'm just wondering how is this going to be a significant difference from the Apple TV devices that they already have out there?
Whether or not they're right or wrong, I do bear in mind when reading through these discussions that Apple activates the brand/team/religion loyalties parts of peoples brains more than any other company/brand/team/religion out there.
Personally I'm just wondering how is this going to be a significant difference from the Apple TV devices that they already have out there?
Marty Chinn said:
Yes you can. Get a high end, stable image capturing device and externally use the values it measures to adjust the settings on the TV under test until it passes. These wouldn't be consumer grade products used to capture the screen. Pretty simple calibration procedure - output video source to a specific shade of blue, measure with external device, compute difference between what was measured and what it should be, adjust TV settings with proprietary software, measure again...repeat until within acceptable range, then save that setting as the TV's default setting and ship it.
TV companies probably don't do it due to cost. Imagine adding 5 minutes per TV manufactured with a bunch of expensive external hardware and software needed to do it. Consumers go after vivid neon settings anyway.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
In my house, there are two iPhones (4 and 4s), a 2010 model iPod Touch, an original iPad and an iPad 2, an old 32GB iPod Color, and a brand new 27" iMac that I'm typing this on right now.
I do not want an Apple branded TV.
If Apple wants to simplify TV they should stick with a simple set top box like AppleTV (only with vastly expanded capabilities). I don't want to buy new TVs. I like the TVs I have, and I like having the choice of what brand of TV I own.
I do not want an Apple branded TV.
If Apple wants to simplify TV they should stick with a simple set top box like AppleTV (only with vastly expanded capabilities). I don't want to buy new TVs. I like the TVs I have, and I like having the choice of what brand of TV I own.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Where? How?Zaptruder said:
I feel like if anyone expresses any confidence in Apple, people like you drop that common dismissive attitude instead of having an actual discussion.
If he ever bothered doing some research, he wouldn't be able to try and troll on Apple like this.rezuth said:
And for the people that says that TV remotes aren't complicated... look at what I have in my home (not my photos):
This is for the TV and it has 67 buttons...
This is for the HDD recorder thing
And there's another one for some old DVD player (this is not my house btw, I only have a TV remote and then just console controllers because I never watch cable stuff).
Compare that to what Apple could easily do after seeing what they've done to MP3 players and the like, and yeah... I'm definitely looking forward to whatever they do with TVs.
WordAssassin
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I'm as big a tech nerd as anyone else here and I fucking loathe using remote controls. I hate TV remotes, I hate DVD player remotes, I hate Cable Box remotes, and I hate that there has to be a different remote for each thing you have, OR you have one remote for everything that has about 50-70 buttons on it.
If Apple and Steve have some way of making that more user friendly, go for it. Can't wait to see what they come up with, because it's sure to be a hell of a lot more intuitive then what we're using now.
If Apple and Steve have some way of making that more user friendly, go for it. Can't wait to see what they come up with, because it's sure to be a hell of a lot more intuitive then what we're using now.
TV used to be simple. HD = high drama. Nothing wrong with trying to rationalise the interface.
I don't like the idea of touch screens for remotes, because you want to be looking at the TV image as you're changing channels. This is where physical buttons still have their use. Unless of course you can show the TV image onto the remote - WiiU style. That might be the tipping point for touch screens. In which case, just have a standard interface on tablets and call it a day.
I got a Wiimote type thingo with my TV...
LG call it Magic Motion. OMG it's Magic!
While it's not bad, and for navigating on screen menus it's pretty good, it's only half the battle - the interface is still all over the place and laggy. Also, this remote has only got a few buttons and that isn't enough to flick through channels - that's why they supplied a normal remote as well, which I use 99% of the time.
It was a frustrating experience entering my WiFi password when I set it up. Actually I couldn't find the MAC address on the TV until I had finished setting up the wifi, which meant I had to disable MAC filtering on my router, connect it and then turn MAC filtering back on.
I don't like the idea of touch screens for remotes, because you want to be looking at the TV image as you're changing channels. This is where physical buttons still have their use. Unless of course you can show the TV image onto the remote - WiiU style. That might be the tipping point for touch screens. In which case, just have a standard interface on tablets and call it a day.
Neo C. said:
I got a Wiimote type thingo with my TV...
LG call it Magic Motion. OMG it's Magic!
While it's not bad, and for navigating on screen menus it's pretty good, it's only half the battle - the interface is still all over the place and laggy. Also, this remote has only got a few buttons and that isn't enough to flick through channels - that's why they supplied a normal remote as well, which I use 99% of the time.
It was a frustrating experience entering my WiFi password when I set it up. Actually I couldn't find the MAC address on the TV until I had finished setting up the wifi, which meant I had to disable MAC filtering on my router, connect it and then turn MAC filtering back on.
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