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[zedreamcast]

No it's fine cause remember there's that book out and in it

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Tidus kicks a blitzball bomb and explodes. Yuna brings him back to life but then breaks up with him because reasons.

So if you go by all that then the romance in that game is pretty moot!

I like to pretend any Final Fantasy thing after X (besides dissidia cause that game is fucking awesome ) didn't happen.

 

[PfantzyPantz]

Test the waters with P3, get a good Persona experience with less waifu and a story that's just as good as P4s.

Yur I was conflicted because I played a bit of P3 and enjoyed it (still need to finish though).

 

[Phantasmal Repose]

Thanks guys, I'm gunna give it a shot sometime.

and Awakening was definitely waifu's on steroids in comparison to the rest of the series. There is very little exaggeration from the fans, sadly.

Here's some tips. Feel free to use them if you want, if not then just ignore:

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Try to finish dungeons in 2-3 days
Try to max out as many S Links as possible
Buy TaP soda from the vending machine in the shopping district.
Do the Hermit S Link quests. It'll be worth it.

Have fun!

 

[skLaFarebear]

Thanks guys, I'm gunna give it a shot sometime.

and Awakening was definitely waifu's on steroids in comparison to the rest of the series. There is very little exaggeration from the fans, sadly.

I'd tell you to go play Persona 2: Innocent Sin over P4 since it avoids all that dumb waifu stuff and immature bs, but then I'd probably get laughed out the room.

 

[AngryCanadian]

I think it'd be best for all of us if we agree to never speak of the atrocities that occurred during the time skip war.

Fear not, that was simply the wandering thoughts of a broken man. I remember the oath we swore that night, all those years ago, and will remember our comrades silently. The world need not know what we do.

 

[GlassEmpires]

I'd tell you to go play Persona 2: Innocent Sin over P4 since it avoids all that dumb waifu stuff and immature bs, but then I'd probably get laughed out the room.

You don't even have to suggest it, I'm laughing at you now.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Those are some big... eyes...

I love me some big eyes.

 

[Phantasmal Repose]

I'd tell you to go play Persona 2: Innocent Sin over P4 since it avoids all that dumb waifu stuff and immature bs, but then I'd probably get laughed out the room.

P2IS still has slight waifu stuff in it.

 

[zedreamcast]

I'd tell you to go play Persona 2: Innocent Sin over P4 since it avoids all that dumb waifu stuff and immature bs, but then I'd probably get laughed out the room.

Well it wasn't bad by any means

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I mean the main villain is Hitler for god sakes

I just think it's too different from 3 and 4 to show off how good the persona series is.

 

[skLaFarebear]

You don't even have to suggest it, I'm laughing at you now.

;_;

P2IS still has slight waifu stuff in it.

I wouldn't put it in the same universe as P3/4, since its more of a romance than waifu simulator (P2 spoilers)

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unless you actually CAN end up with Ginko, which I don't think you can

 

[Banana Aeon]

You don't even have to suggest it, I'm laughing at you now.

Cold. Blooded.

;_;

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[PfantzyPantz]

Its exactly like this, but at least you have the option to turn them down. Which is exactly what I did to all of them.

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Also, fuck Rise, Chie, Yukiko and Naoto.

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Well Naoto is cool I guess.

I wanted to ask if the girls just fawn over you the whole game, or if they act normally until you start choosing romance dialogue.

Here's some tips. Feel free to use them if you want, if not then just ignore:


Have fun!

Thanks yo, I'll probably need all this because I messed up alot of my P3 playing by taking too long and not knowing that I had time limits in certain things

I'd tell you to go play Persona 2: Innocent Sin over P4 since it avoids all that dumb waifu stuff and immature bs, but then I'd probably get laughed out the room.

I'm definitely gunna look into P1 and P2, they seem to be more my flavor

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Am I remembering this wrong or is all the waifu stuff in P4(and to a lesser extent P3

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since you can't choose to be friends with the girl S-links

) completely optional and non-intrusive? If you don't like it ignore that optional part of the game, there's plenty of other great things about Persona that you won't find in a lot of other games.

I wanted to ask if the girls just fawn over you the whole game, or if they act normally until you start choosing romance dialogue.

Even if you do they only fawn over you in the S-links, they act like you're just friends in any story cutscenes and other stuff. It's completely avoidable.

 

[croten]

I wanted to ask if the girls just fawn over you the whole game, or if they act normally until you start choosing romance dialogue.



Thanks yo, I'll probably need all this because I messed up alot of my P3 playing by taking too long and not knowing that I had time limits in certain things



I'm definitely gunna look into P1 and P2, they seem to be more my flavor

Rise fawns over you but the rest don't

 

[Phantasmal Repose]

I wouldn't put it in the same universe as P3/4, since its more of a romance than waifu simulator (P2 spoilers)

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unless you actually CAN end up with Ginko, which I don't think you can

What does that mean? What's the difference between romance and waifu simulation? Also,

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I do remember Lisa asking you if you like her near the end of the game and if you say yes it changes their negotiation combo.

 

[zedreamcast]

I wanted to ask if the girls just fawn over you the whole game, or if they act normally until you start choosing romance dialogue.

No not at all, really the only girl that fawns over you is Rise, all the other girls are just normal friends, and romance with them can't be done till you friended them to level 10.

 

[croten]

No not at all, really the only girl that fawns over you is Rise, all the other girls are just normal friends, and romance with them can't be done till you friended them to level 10.

Speaking of which, does romancing any of the characters change anything in the game outside of the S-links at all?

 

[JoJo94]

Am I remembering this wrong or is all the waifu stuff in P4(and to a lesser extent P3

Spoiler

since you can't choose to be friends with the girl S-links

) completely optional and non-intrusive? If you don't like it ignore that optional part of the game, there's plenty of other great things about Persona that you won't find in a lot of other games.

It's optional in all honesty you could play the game not doing a single social link I am sure (you're doing it wrong but you could)

and the girls don't fawn over you the relationships only get mentioned in the social link only Rise and to some extent Marie fawn over you in the story.

Also I said I shouldn't say this but I;m gonna you shouldn't be disappointed with Awakening selling since it saved the entire Fire Emblem series from dying out...not trying to start anything but that did bother me.

 

[zedreamcast]

Am I remembering this wrong or is all the waifu stuff in P4(and to a lesser extent P3

Spoiler

since you can't choose to be friends with the girl S-links

) completely optional and non-intrusive? If you don't like it ignore that optional part of the game, there's plenty of other great things about Persona that you won't find in a lot of other games.

Even if you do they only fawn over you in the S-links, they act like you're just friends in any story cutscenes and other stuff. It's completely avoidable.

You are remembering correct. You don't have to romance them at all and it changes nothing

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besides during the ending fight where all your social links talk to you but i dunno if that changes depending on romancing or not

 

[GuardianE]

I wanted to ask if the girls just fawn over you the whole game, or if they act normally until you start choosing romance dialogue.

There is essentially a point where you can choose to pursue a romantic relationship for each character. If you don't, then you'll just remain really good friends and you can still max their social links. If you do, then there's no turning back.

I wouldn't say that the female cast fawns over the main character at the start, but they do find him interesting and attractive. There are the seeds of romance, but you don't have to plant them.

 

[Mr.Towel]

Speaking of which, does romancing any of the characters change anything in the game outside of the S-links at all?

It doesn't, which I really hope changes in P5. Having subtle changes to cutscenes or dialogue based on social link choices would be great.

 

[GlassEmpires]

It doesn't, which I really hope changes in P5. Having subtle changes to cutscenes or dialogue based on social link choices would be great.

Well there were gameplay incentives to pursue S Links in 4, and I'm not speaking of unlocking stronger Personas. But I do agree that there should be dialogue changes.

 

[skLaFarebear]

I wanted to ask if the girls just fawn over you the whole game, or if they act normally until you start choosing romance dialogue.



Thanks yo, I'll probably need all this because I messed up alot of my P3 playing by taking too long and not knowing that I had time limits in certain things



I'm definitely gunna look into P1 and P2, they seem to be more my flavor

Not all of them, just Rise (a lot) and somewhat Yukiko. During normal cutscenes Chie and Naoto aren't really like that. Even if you romance them, story cutscenes don't change either. And hell yeah! join the P2 brigade.

What does that mean? What's the difference between romance and waifu simulation? Also,

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I do remember Lisa asking you if you like her near the end of the game and if you say yes it changes their negotiation combo.

Waifu simulator = choose your own waifu from our large selection. P2 didn't really have that. But I had no clue you could

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choose ginko, since I assume Maya is the main romance

then I guess p2 has a little bit of it.

 

[croten]

It doesn't, which I really hope changes in P5. Having subtle changes to cutscenes or dialogue based on social link choices would be great.

yeah one of the things that bugged me in P4 was during the festival when all the girls wear Kimonos, Teddie starts coming onto them and it felt weird that Chie never put any resistance to teddies advances!

 

[PfantzyPantz]

Thanks alot everyone, this definitely puts my interest back into it.

I may became a member of PersonaGaf yet! (though not anytime soon because they're long)

 

[Mr.Towel]

Well there were gameplay incentives to pursue S Links in 4, and I'm not speaking of unlocking stronger Personas. But I do agree that there should be dialogue changes.

I just thought some of the stuff where someone would confess their love for the main character then like the next day basically deny knowing him felt really awkward and took me out of it.

 

[zedreamcast]

yeah one of the things that bugged me in P4 was during the festival when all the girls wear Kimonos, Teddie starts coming onto them and it felt weird that Chie never put any resistance to teddies advances!

I never forgave him for that....to this day i still scorn his very existence and i hope he rots in hell for what he did to me! (seriously tho teddies great.)

 

[JoJo94]

yeah one of the things that bugged me in P4 was during the festival when all the girls wear Kimonos, Teddie starts coming onto them and it felt weird that Chie never put any resistance to teddies advances!

Let's be honest here...they weren't gonna give Teddie any

 

[RetroDLC]

Alternative waifu...

On a side note, when does the Nuzlocke run start in BST?

 

[croten]

Let's be honest here...they weren't gonna give Teddie any

Yeah but my point is in that scene it didn't seem that Yu and Chie were going out.

 

[JoJo94]

Yeah but my point is in that scene it didn't seem that Yu and Chie were going out.

Yeah I get what you mean...I kind of took it as let's keep it a secret...I don't know why or for what reason but I took it as that.

 

[Okingjrr]

Alternative waifu...


On a side note, when does the Nuzlock run start in BST?

5 pm BST

 

[croten]

Yeah I get what you mean...I kind of took it as let's keep it a secret...I don't know why or for what reason but I took it as that.

There still would've been some chemistry, still that is the only thing I want in P5. Other than just putting Chie in it again, somehow

 

[Mr.Towel]

Yeah but my point is in that scene it didn't seem that Yu and Chie were going out.

Yeah, that was my problem. The game never really went out of it's way in the main story dialogue to suggest they were people who had some sort of deep emotional bound like the social links suggest.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Yeah I get what you mean...I kind of took it as let's keep it a secret...I don't know why or for what reason but I took it as that.

Well to be technical, the game wasn't designed around affecting story cutscenes regardless of Yu's relationship status.

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Which makes sense considering Yu can sex up all the girls.

 

[zedreamcast]

Yeah, that was my problem. The game never really went out of it's way in the main story dialogue to suggest they were people who had some sort of deep emotional bound like the social links suggest.

Well lets just see if 5 even has Social Links. I mean the formula completely changed when 3 came out, maybe they wanna change the game completely every odd numbered game.

 

[Mr.Towel]

Well lets just see if 5 even has Social Links. I mean the formula completely changed when 3 came out, maybe they wanna change the game completely every odd numbered game.

I mean, that's Persona now, right? People would riot.

 

[Pompadour Paragon]

I mean, that's Persona now, right? People would riot.

Pretty much. Prior to the integration of VN- or sim-style elements like Social Links, a calendar with events and deadlines, "better person" stat building and the like the series was basically just another SMT spinoff franchise until they hit paydirt with Persona 3. Going back on it now wouldn't just kill the golden goose, it'd stick its corpse on a pike outside of Atlus HQ to keep folks away.

 

[zedreamcast]

Pretty much. Prior to the integration of VN- or sim-style elements like Social Links, a calendar with events and deadlines, "better person" stat building and the like the series was basically just another SMT spinoff franchise until they hit paydirt with Persona 3. Going back on it now wouldn't just kill the golden goose, it'd stick its corpse on a pike outside of Atlus HQ to keep folks away.

It'd be FFXIII all over again...

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Well lets just see if 5 even has Social Links. I mean the formula completely changed when 3 came out, maybe they wanna change the game completely every odd numbered game.

They'd be complete idiots if they removed one of the reasons the series became popular in the first place, I don't see it happening.

I hope they can integrate how strong your social links are into cutscenes. Like someone reacting more positively towards your command if your social link is higher with that person.

 

[Ohmygoditsjrod]

Guys I think Chie won the strawpoll

Because Team Chie is the best team.

We ride together, we die together.

 

[zedreamcast]

Because Team Chie is the best team.

We ride together, we die together.

One day team Yukiko will destroy all of you with fire!

 

[skLaFarebear]

Pretty much. Prior to the integration of VN- or sim-style elements like Social Links, a calendar with events and deadlines, "better person" stat building and the like the series was basically just another SMT spinoff franchise until they hit paydirt with Persona 3. Going back on it now wouldn't just kill the golden goose, it'd stick its corpse on a pike outside of Atlus HQ to keep folks away.

Yeah, even though I'd like to see something different, Atlus would be idiots to abandon the high school SOL/waifu simulator and dungeon crawler formula now.

 

[JoJo94]

Yeah, even though I'd like to see something different, Atlus would be idiots to abandon the high school SOL/waifu simulator and dungeon crawler formula now.

I actually don't think this one should be in highschool I mean especially with the tag line. "You are a slave. Want emancipation?"

 

[360pages]

Yeah Persona 1 and 2 were interesting, but they were so close to the SMT mainline in terms of tone and themes, that their existence seemed kind of pointless.

Now that Persona actually got it's own thing going, I see no reason to change it, if I want something darker with the same demons I would play the main lines (Which I do,)

 

[GlassEmpires]

Yeah, even though I'd like to see something different, Atlus would be idiots to abandon the high school SOL/waifu simulator and dungeon crawler formula now.

I would like to see a game like Persona use older characters and step away from the high school setting.

 

[Aaron-Lagann]

I actually don't think this one should be in highschool I mean especially with the tag line. "You are a slave. Want emancipation?"

But didn't they show desks?

 

[kewlmyc]

I actually don't think this one should be in highschool I mean especially with the tag line. "You are a slave. Want emancipation?"

You can still be a "slave" to things in your life while in high school.

 

[zedreamcast]

But didn't they show desks?

I think the teaser chairs were all school chairs.
Though it would be nuts if all the characters were going to University instead of High school.

 

[croten]

But didn't they show desks?

Yeah I'm pretty certain 5 is going to be in a school setting.

I'd be down with mid twenties people, would be pretty interesting. I wish they'd at least be 19-20 year old college students though.

Yeah a College/University setting would be great. i really dug Catherine because it dealt with adult issues and I hope they can do that again with P5