Super Smash Bros. for 3DS Japan Demo Impressions

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New news, new thread.
Theres a Smash Bros Japan Demo going on right now and thanks to a few users there's new information available

ROBIN:
- Chrom appears in robins victory pose.
-Robin: His hair color changes, but not the model
-Robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.

He has two swords, the magic and the non-magic one. (Forgive me, not an awakening veteran).
All of tilts are using the physical sword. They have good combo ability. All of his smashes use the magic sword, which has an electric effect.
When in the air, if you use the inputs for a smash attack (and you still have the magic sword available), you will do an aerial that uses the magic sword. If you just typically hit an aerial he will use the normal sword.
You use up your magic sword quite quickly but it regenerates rather fast so it's not like it ruins your tempo. Very fast.

The fire move we've seen is actually a fireball that comes from above robins head and rains down in the vicinity in front of robin. His neutral b shoots and electric lightnig bolt straight across the stage.
The healing move is his down b and you would be surprised to know it heals for a LOT (I healed for about 20%) and it stuns your opponent while you heal. It has a start up though so it's not as easy to land as any regular grab. I can see Robin being a PAIN IN THE *** to people who can't avoid getting caught in it. Unsure if you can force break it from slapping buttons, I only played AS him.
His up b jumps up a bit and shoots wind slicers down. Important to note it's actually not straight up, he jumps jump and slides slightly to the side in the direction you're facing THEN shoots them down, so it can be a ground option too.

Marth feels very nerfed. His range seems even worse than in Brawl (I was whiffing fsmashes like crazy and I'm pretty good with tippers). Aside fr his range and no ability to double fair he seems mostly the same, aside from running faster. It's his range that REALLY feels kinda killer to His melee/brawl play style.
Tipper ing with Marth seems to require your opponent to be a lot closer than ever before, it seems he won't be as much of a spacing monster as he's always been.
This can't be overstated enough, his range feels significantly shorter (by significantly I mean that it's noticeable. It's all relative of course), and seems to be his most notable nerf. Spacing his tippers seems to Be considerably more skill-based due to the range needed.


SHULK
-Shulks standing a is a 3 hit combo
-Shulks up b is a TWO PART combo
-You can choose to do the second part by inputting b again
-Basically he swipes up like dolphin slash
-If you hit b again he will do a swipe in front of him and send the opponent flying
-His up smash is sort of like palutena, except a much smaller pillar of light coming from his monado
-I think his running dash attack is just a sword swipe. Don't quote me on that I didn't take it to memory (As I quote him anyway lol)
-Shulk lunges forward and swipes down with his forward b In to the ground
-When you press neutral b it changes the insignia. Can't change while rolling, unsure attacking
-His bair he shoves his sword behind him without even turning around like under his arm.
-Shulk has the underpants alt we all know about, rest are recolors
- Shulks second jump is a somersault. Feels funny. All his smash attacks have a strange millisecond-ish load-up time before they come out. The Monado powering up or whatever.
- Shulk has amazing spacing options because his Monado reaches so damn far

PAC-MAN:
- Pacmans costumes change his gloves and shoes
- Pacmans forward a is a combo like Marth except with punches
- his down aerial is like lucarios except he kicks like 2-3 times.
- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.
- Pacman. He feels slow, but his attacks felt like they had a good hitbox, because he's really fat and his legs stretch when he kicks. He just felt really interesting to play, but I ended up using his aerials the most because of their hit boxes.
-Pac-Man: His color doesn't change, but he wears accessories.

LINK:
-Link: Fierce Diety, White, Purple
- Fierce Diety Link confirmed (Face changes too)
- White tunic and Purple tunic confirmed
- His down air has less recovery frames, but doesn't have as much knockback.
- Boomerang throwing animation is more reminiscent of how it used to look in 64
- link has a costume with like red markings under his eyes. It looks nothing like link... But his eyes are whitened and has red markings and he's dark colored clothing. There's also a white and blue link.

CHARIZARD:
-Dark red charizard, Blue charizard
- Charizard can be purple, yellow, red, grey
- Charizard's up throw is seismic toss, similar to Kirby's throw.
-Charizard: Shiny Charizard

SAMUS/ZERO SUIT SAMUS:
- I made a mistake for the light blue costume of ZSS it's actually gray
-ZSS comes in dark blue, green, black, and red.

PIT:
-No dark pit costume.
-Pits side b fist has a bad lag if you whiff, big KO power if you hit at higher %s

CAPTAIN FALCON:
-Captain falcon still has his knee of justice but they made HUGE landing lag. His side b still does strike dmg (I'm sorry), I think I misinterpreted a guy next to me who was playing him say that. Shouldn't have said it without confirming myself
- Captain falcons uppercut (side B) doesn't do strike dmg anymore, only a grab his up b goes straight up

LITTLE MAC:
Little Mac has 16 costumes! He has 8 costumes for his fleshy self, and 8 costumes for his wireframe

PIKACHU:
- Pikachu: Gold/Silver's Trainer Hat, X/Y's Trainer hat, Party hat returns
- Glasses Pikachu confirmed
- Pikachu has a hat with sunglasses on the front costume, and a fighter headband (red and black colored I think).

LUCARIO:
- Lucario has a purple and green skin and dark grey skin. Rest are shades of blue.

KING DEDEDE:
- No Masked DDD alt

DIDDY KONG:
- Diddy kong only gets 1 banana. If you pull another It disappears

PEACH:
-Peach's forward B has BARELY any startup time anymore (the butt slam)
It felt REALLY FAST.
- Peach: Fire Peach color
- Peach's turnip pull speed is nerfed. She can still move in to float to do things like crown and nair. Her fsmash goes tennis club, golf club, and frying pan. I believe it's a set order now.
- Peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

FOX:
- Wolf deconfirmed
- Fox has an alternate skinThat looks exactly like wolf. He's gray fur, purple eye device and grayish clothing. It's the only skin that changes foxes fur. This is only a color, NOT a costume

ZELDA:
- Zelda has a white costume
-Zelda has no alternate costumes only colors
- Zelda's new phantom move: It doesn't hit a character right up in her grill. The phantom spawns maybe a character away, so if your opponent is right up on you, the phantom will just spawn in front of them and whiff.

META KNIGHT:
- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.
His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.
-Meta Knight: Dark Meta, Galacta Knight

SONIC:
- No Metal Sonic. Shades of Blue/One White skin
- Sonic still dies pitifully if you end up in a spin without a jump


MEGAMAN:
- Megaman has yellow
- megaman has a green/orange costume, and white/red costume, a blue and white costume

MARTH:
- Marth has an Orange Skin
- Marth double fair is not possible

TOON LINK:
-There is no island toon link costume.
- toon link has the four swords colors + old style link color, the black with red eyes.

LUCARIO:
- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

PALUTENA:
- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.
- Palutena: Viridi color

OLIMAR:
- Olimar: Alph (full model change)

YOSHI:
- Black and purple Yoshi colors confirmed

IKE:
- Ike feels unchanged. I was never an Ike main so I don't know the specifics but his attacks were all the same general thing, nothing new I noticed.

VILLAGER:

- villagers up b is the most overpowered recovery I've ever seen.

SMASH MECHANICS/OTHERS:
-Back Ledge Grabbing is back
-Shield while running
-Fast falling is pretty swift. It also has the ash 64 effect sparkle when you do the input.
-There is no Melee dash dancing. It's incredibly hard to do with the circle pad but it's essentially the same thing as brawls. IE not super useful or practical.
- the ledge is DEFINITELY tougher to grab and there is no snap. Unfortunately both Marth and Shulk flip for their 2nd jump so I could not test ledge re-grabbing within a short window of time because it waits for their flip animation to finish before actually grabbing.
- The game still has a sense of floatiness to it that is present in brawl. It's definitely not like Melee where you drop like bricks.
- Shield rolling is extremely fast and there's a neat little sparkle star effect when you do it and acting out of shield is as well. I think of it like a mini-wave dash. No wave dashing or l-cancelling. Just rolling baby.
- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.
- whoever is worried about combos, there are combos.
- YOU CAN CANCEL RUN WITH SHEILD.
-I could no re-grab the ledge directly after letting go and jumping back in to obvious grab range.
- Pivot cancel is still in
- Lucina is not playable.(DEMO)
AKB 48 promotion:
Thanks to tatsuki for the direct feed pics:
 

IntelliHeath

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I think it's more of commercial trailer but I would be surprised that it's opening credit.
 

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- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.
i sense a bye bitch gif
 

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I need to see that AKB48 trailer! :D

Looks beautiful! So excited for Smash
 

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Some costumes
Peach: Fire Peach
Yoshi: Black, Purple (no white)
Link: Fierce Diety, White, Purple
Toon Link: Pajamas
Pit: No black color
Palutena: Viridi color
Olimar: Alph (full model change)
Meta Knight: Dark Meta, Galacta Knight
Fox: Wolf color (may just be Brawl's black Fox)
Pikachu: Gold/Silver's Trainer Hat, X/Y's Trainer hat, Party hat returns
Charizard: Shiny Charizard
Robin: His hair color changes, but not the model
Pac-Man: His color doesn't change, but he wears accessories.
 

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Donkey Kong has a pink color reminiscent of Monster Hunter’s Congalala
Alph appears as an Olimar costume, and his name is changed to Alph
Camouflage Little Mac color scheme(?)
Ice Luigi color scheme
Fire Peach color scheme
 

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Does anyone know where the demos are? In Akihabara? I might stop by after I'm done my errands.
Nintendo had a page up of all the locations and times of participating stores, but I can't for the life of me find it for you. I'll keep looking. Why can't I find this shit?
 

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Marth has his classic outfit as an alt

-Zelda has a Hilda recolor and has received multiple buffs to her specials and tilts

-toon link has his outset island as an alt and his aerials have much more knockback. His arrows also have an added fire tip just like Young Link in Melee

- A Rhythm Tengoku stage is confirmed and seems to work just like Warioware from Brawl
 

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Some costumes
Peach: Fire Peach
Yoshi: Black, Purple (no white)
Link: Fierce Diety, White, Purple
Toon Link: Pajamas
Pit: No black color
Palutena: Viridi color
Olimar: Alph (full model change)
Meta Knight: Dark Meta, Galacta Knight
Fox: Wolf color (may just be Brawl's black Fox)
Pikachu: Gold/Silver's Trainer Hat, X/Y's Trainer hat, Party hat returns
Charizard: Shiny Charizard
Robin: His hair color changes, but not the model
Pac-Man: His color doesn't change, but he wears accessories.
WHOA WHOA WHOA IS IT CONFIRMED?!
 

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Some costumes
Peach: Fire Peach
Yoshi: Black, Purple (no white)
Link: Fierce Diety, White, Purple
Toon Link: Pajamas
Pit: No black color
Palutena: Viridi color
Olimar: Alph (full model change)
Meta Knight: Dark Meta, Galacta Knight
Fox: Wolf color (may just be Brawl's black Fox)
Pikachu: Gold/Silver's Trainer Hat, X/Y's Trainer hat, Party hat returns
Charizard: Shiny Charizard
Robin: His hair color changes, but not the model
Pac-Man: His color doesn't change, but he wears accessories.
megaton
 

HawthorneKitty

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Okay, I gotta admit, the AKB stuff is funny and I don't even like them.
 

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This thread gave me a heart attack, I thought the demo is up on the Japanese eshop.
Sadly, the closest demo locations are quite far from where I live. :(
Why not Ikebukuro!
 

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I'm still confused what the fuck this is. Can't be the opening to the 3DS version. A new cinematic that will lead to a new challenger? Or just a general advertisement?
Rumor is you can make your own Mii splash screen and they used that group to show it off.
 

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FIERCE DEITY WHAT?! My hype just went Super Saiyan and I can scarcely explain why.

Sakurai is firing on all cylinders with the alternate costumes... I'm in love.