No, don't think this is a bad advice. They have demo out, they have major of works done and they have some support from Microsoft and others. They're no other Mighty No. 9.
If they started with nothing but concept works, then I agree.
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System Shock Remastered Kickstarter Launched (PC/XB1) | 900K Goal - Demo Available
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No, don't think this is a bad advice. They have demo out, they have major of works done and they have some support from Microsoft and others. They're no other Mighty No. 9.
If they started with nothing but concept works, then I agree.
I still backed it as $30 seems a decent price. But as a remake of an old game, presumably it won't be a full priced title when it launches?
It'll be $30 probably
I have never played a SS shock game before. Or it was such a long time ago that I don't remember.
To people saying it would be dumbed down on a console controller, would these controls be as extensive as Elite Dangerous? Because they managed to get a shit load of sim controls into that game.
To people saying it would be dumbed down on a console controller, would these controls be as extensive as Elite Dangerous? Because they managed to get a shit load of sim controls into that game.
Like Xcom 2?
I'm not familiar with SS1's music so I'm not sure how well it would translate to a more orchestral score but I know I'd hate it for SS2.
Yes, totally the same thing.
You can back this now guys. They won't charge you for 30 days.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Offcourse it should have been there, unless the dev believes that the "support fee" is significantly higher than the potential extra backing + sales. It could have gotten more public funding and maybe even better stretchgoals unless they would have tuned those down without the company support. Who knows, I don't like kickstarters.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
To be fair, System Shock 1 is a LOT more complicated than Xcom 2.
GurgleBot20
Member
Hasn't Otherside previously stated that System Shock 3 will eventually be kick started? How much of an effect would this project's success have on that?
Well if this crashes and burns I imagine they'll rethink their plans.
SS series has drag and drop inventories and selectable UI options
It would have to be redesigned to work for controller
demo UI currently looks like this
UI options are gone
inventory is full screen
that's something that would work for controllers but would be annoying for mouse and keyboard
Orchestral scores are the most generic soundtracks in video games. I hate them. Video game music used to be good. Oh well, they lost a backer.
GrantDaNasty
Member
I'm going to back this. The demo is obviously super-early and has a lot of bugs and other issues, but goddamn they are NAILING the aesthetic and the gameplay feel of the original, just making it more viable in a modern era (similar to DOOM).
deletethis123
Banned
Is it me or is this going way slower than expected?
Give them $1M. You're rich, Den Den!
Zombie James
Banned
How well would the demo run on a Macbook with an integrated GPU? That's really the only platform I have that they're (maybe) supporting.
Joseph Merrick
Member
very nice demo. I still want it to feel like a mech game again. hehe. not sure about the interface.
the music is already perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-3u9vO9UUE&index=8&list=PLF2E2D1B4832DCE95
the music is already perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-3u9vO9UUE&index=8&list=PLF2E2D1B4832DCE95
Haha, I opened a box and found the torso and my first reaction was "What the hell do I need a torso for?"
It's more to do with the statement that you won't even have a chance to get an additional platform if it doesn't pass. By all means endorse a tier where there's no expected usable product at the end of the day, just have an issue with that mindset.
I hope it gets funded. I hope it turns out well. It's a series that deserves to get more recognition and exposure. But if someone doesn't have a decent pc or an Xbox one, I certainly wouldn't recommend backing it.
Monado Blade
Member
The Kickstarter video specifically calls this a remaster.
GurgleBot20
Member
Which is why I'm a bit worried about this project. Maybe I'm a bit naive, but Otherside has a bit of talent behind System Shock 3 that makes me a bit more confident in that project. That's not to say that I don't think this could be great, but considering Night Dive has been working on ports/releases and the only names I can find in the pitch who are working on this (at least through text, I'm at work so I can't watch the video) are working on the aesthetic side of this project, I can't help but feel a little bit skeptical.
I am however, getting way ahead of myself. Otherside still needs to release Underworld Ascendant, and I haven't even played the demo for this yet.
We filmed the KS video way before we decided to drop "remaster" from the title.
Do it
Can we get some more Early Bird pledges?
300 was nothing, all gone. I mean, what was the point? You are not rewarding Early Birds if there are not enough for even a fraction of the people wanting to pledge on Day 1.
The kickstarter page says
"A modern take on System Shock, a faithful reboot; its not Citadel Station as it was, but as you remember it."
New lamer soundtrack
new features
altered story? (To help shape and direct the existing narrative of System Shock, we've enlisted the help of Chris Avellone)
Do remasters typically go through this many changes? The ones I saw for consoles were just upresed and higher framerates
game was usually the same
this is looking and sounding more like a reboot
Ulysses 31
Member
That laptop is tempting but I recently got a ROG GX700VO. =((((((
ArclightBorealis
Member
It wouldn't really translate all that well except for maybe one track in the original that was very minimal and ambient by design (the Maintenance deck where the lighting was very dark and filled with invisible mutants).
Most of the tracks in the original System Shock have a sort of driving energy to them that also complements its cyberpunk inspired look, which is something that a score produced by a group like the Prague FILMharmonic Orchestra would contrast with pretty badly. Like, here's a few tracks to show what the original's soundtrack was like.
Reactor
Medical
Intro Theme (Both DOS and MAC OS Versions)
Obviously all this is back when digital audio for games was still primarily MIDI so track and channel switching was easier, but for a sci-fi cyberpunk game it fits the theme. The only example track on that Kickstarter page I felt came anywhere close was Ethical Constraints Removed, as that's more in line with what I want out of a game in this series.
Indeed - however there is legitimate reason to have a concern if you were a die-hard fan of the original PC System Shock, if you were to fear the game being "dumbed down". That is a fair enough reason not to Back the game; it isn't a good reason to discard the idea of buying the game vs a pc exclusive version unless there is something fundamentally broken in the PC version such as UI / gameplay
We've tested the demo on a variety of computers on my Surface Pro 4, which has an Intel Iris Pro 540, the demo runs at ~25fps in 720p and ~45fps if I drop to 640x400.
So far the game has been developed with a very small team of 4 core people, and only one programmer, so we did not have the manpower required to do more optimization work. We did however get the biggest perf issues out of the way.
natsuyasumi
Member
Performance on my 970 is only ~50 fps with frequent noticeable dips during action. I haven't played a desktop Unity game recently so I dunno if that is expected or not, but I was surprised how low it was.
Was fine, just surprised.
Was fine, just surprised.
Whoa, you're on this project?! I love your Dota 2 items. Good luck to you and the team!
If you're a diehard fan of the original SS enough that you can't stand QoL changes being made to the game than the original is still there for people to play. No reason you can't like a re-imagining of the same game.
Unity has dogshit performance in general.
What CPU do you have?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
This is actually the dumbest thing.
metsallica
Member
Backed at $150. Night Dive, please remaster my life.
it's a pre-alpha
D
Deleted member 59090
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I really hope they hit 1.9mil and let us use that instead of orchestral soundtrack.
lucablight
Member
I emailed the developer asking about a PS4 version and was told they are evaluating other platforms but no guarantees at this point.
