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Takamaru Was Originally Planned to Be Playable in Super Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U
- Thread starter OricWindstar
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The Bankslammer
Member
Yeah, this is probably worth reinforcing. Takamaru came up because Sugita, one of the people on the stream this is sourced from, voiced him in Smash 4.
Well, because if this Reason the Fire Emblem Characters were ment to be cut from Melee in the European/American Version.
But since we all saw how that played out and how it affected the Franchise i'd say that this is one Reason more why it doesn't make sense
Twilight Gap
Member
first thought
ShockingAlberto
Member
I don't know that "originally planned" and "once considered" are synonyms.
……forgetit
Member
Marth had some clout in japan so he made sense. Roy was chosen to promote a new game, kinda like greninja, but in reverse.
OricWindstar
Member
I added more clarification in the OP. Mod can change it to considered in the title if they'd like.
All these unimaginative people in here spouting "do not pass go, you have a sword" and not realizing there are a grand total of four actual play styles/molds shared between ~11 characters using a sword.
THAT'S something worth being upset over.
Yeah, but I'm pretty done with thinking about rosters after going through this and Brawl. Next time I'm just going with the flow.
THAT'S something worth being upset over.
Yeah, but I'm pretty done with thinking about rosters after going through this and Brawl. Next time I'm just going with the flow.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I want Nintendo to put out Nazo no Murasame Jo on Wii U VC. I don't want to play it on 3DS. I know it's on there in Japan....
Secret Fawful
Member
Release him as DLC. He's fucking awesome. Then maybe he can get a reboot like Pit did.
Would've been interesting, but Duck Hunt filled the retro rep just fine. And we got a blue-haired sword fighter anyway with Lucina.
What's up with the Marth comparison? He was a fairly popular character coming from a pretty big series. He was worthy on plenty of merits. Heck, he was probably more qualified than Ness. Fire Emblem not coming out of Japan at the time doesn't mean much when choosing the roster as long as the series was popular in Japan.
What's up with the Marth comparison? He was a fairly popular character coming from a pretty big series. He was worthy on plenty of merits. Heck, he was probably more qualified than Ness. Fire Emblem not coming out of Japan at the time doesn't mean much when choosing the roster as long as the series was popular in Japan.
Fire Emblem had about 6 games out in Japan when Melee was released & Roy was in to promote the next one. I think Sakurai is stating Takamaru's popularity in both Japan & the US.
Heck, Nintendo almost removed Marth & Roy from the US version because they figured nobody knew who they were, but left them in.
The video is nothing of value to most of GAF tho >_>
Btw, original source is Smash Boards, then gamefaqs picked up on it, then gonintendo.
As for gonintendo, well, let me not derail the thread.
At the same time, I could only imagine what people would be saying about a character with Vergil smash attacks, Megaman's Metal Blades pitchable in groups of three and Villager's fair/bair using fireballs.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Pretty much the first thing I thought... using Smash to get players familiar with the character/series would have been the perfect way to introduce people and get something off the ground.
But I guess you can counter Fire Emblem with F-Zero, despite Captain Falcon's consistent appearance in Smash Bros apparently F-Zero's popularity only decreased over time.
Really? I'd put Ice Climbers and ROB on that same level.
Troubled Bat
Member
I could have been reflecting projectiles with Takamaru!!! MOTHERFU-
Raaah! Seriously! This is not going to leave me.. There was an opportunity for him to appear as a playable character...
I guess Takamaru Mii will hold me for years to come..
Raaah! Seriously! This is not going to leave me.. There was an opportunity for him to appear as a playable character...
I guess Takamaru Mii will hold me for years to come..
I still remember that night when us at SmashGAF were happening to be hyping Takamaru, then, almost as if Sakurai read the freaking thread, he drops the bomb of him being an Assist Trophy (in the cheekiest way possible, too). Great times.
I wonder what other gems of information are in here...
I wonder what other gems of information are in here...
Beelzebufo
Banned
I mean, nobody cares/knows who Takamaru is, and we got more recent obscure characters like Shulk instead. Plus Duck Hunt is way cooler.
Choppasmith
Member
I think, like Little Mac, they should wait until Nintendo decides to put make some kind of reboot and use whatever updated design and material they make for that.
Both of those at least had presence in the global market
You add Japan exclusivity to how long ago his only game came out and I'd say it's a different story.
If there was a new Murasame Castle in the works, I guarantee you Takamaru would've been playable.
Does this count as some kind of remake?
He also appeared in Captain Rainbow, but that's Captain Rainbow.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Meh. No great loss. Super-generic samurai ain't shit next to Duck Hunt Dog.
Are you comparing an obscure Famicom game to two on-going franchises?
ShockingAlberto
Member
The last Fire Emblem was well past a million seller and pretty much saved the series. It's at over 400k in America alone.
Karsticles
Member
Fire Emblem: Awakening sold quite well in the west, as did Xenoblade. Both games have sequels in the works.
Takamaru had one game ages ago that never even came over here.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Awakening was a million seller, and sold well enough not only to save the series but to continue it with another installment on the 3DS coming this year.
No idea how Xenoblade sold but given there's a big budget sequel coming for the Wii U it's clear Nintendo has faith in the franchise.
Takamaru has neither the sales nor the recognition and there's no sign of a new installment in the horizon. Only chance was as a quirky retro rep out of nowhere, and the much more well-known Duck Hunt took that spot.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
W-wait...wait, wait, wait, wait.
SUGITA voiced Takamaru?
You mean I could've had a samurai in my Smash Brothers voiced by Gintoki himself?
balladofwindfishes
Member
Wow, the music in this is really good, nice remix
BabyFaceKillah
Member
who?
Coffee Dog
Banned
Makes sense. If you want an NES rep, Little Mac and Duck Hunt are far better choices both mechanically and appeal wise.
Why does this have to be an either or situation in the first place? I like the newcomers but thought Takamaru would be cool in addition.
Well, here's hoping something like this is sooner rather than later. I generally just like the simplicity of his design and feel like there's a particular action and aesthetic niche that could be served through him in Nintendo's current top level franchises.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Yeah not really buying this explanation since we have characters like ROB and Ice Climbers, and especially since Takamaru has at least made cameos in recent games and his series had a whole game in Nintendo Land.
Hey, speaking of which, where's my Nintendo Land stage and music?
Anyways, Smash is perfect for giving obscure characters a spotlight and making them more well known. I'll admit Takamaru would be likely the most obscure case yet, but after the initial first three/four weeks of "WHO IS THAT, NINTENDO IS RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS" people would love him and would be clamoring for a revival of the series.
Oh and also the Fire Emblem comparison is somewhat valid. I would make the (perhaps somewhat bold) claim that Awakening would not have been a crazy success in the west were it not for Smash putting it in view of the western audience. The Wii games did okay, but the build up to what FE has become in the west is thanks in large part to Smash, I believe.
Hey, speaking of which, where's my Nintendo Land stage and music?
Anyways, Smash is perfect for giving obscure characters a spotlight and making them more well known. I'll admit Takamaru would be likely the most obscure case yet, but after the initial first three/four weeks of "WHO IS THAT, NINTENDO IS RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS" people would love him and would be clamoring for a revival of the series.
Oh and also the Fire Emblem comparison is somewhat valid. I would make the (perhaps somewhat bold) claim that Awakening would not have been a crazy success in the west were it not for Smash putting it in view of the western audience. The Wii games did okay, but the build up to what FE has become in the west is thanks in large part to Smash, I believe.
Enough guys that punch thank you
Huh? There is more than 4... Ike, link, Marth, Robin, Pit, MK and Shulk off the top of my head.
Edit: I see what you mean. I thought you were saying there were only 4 actually styles shared between clones not that there are only 4 cloned styles
I really see his point, I'm a huge Nintendo fan and I know where every smash character is from, but this would have really throne me for a loop.
My immediate response as well. To be fair though, I didn't know about Marth and Roy until Melee.
Damn, I forgot my math on this after doing it in one of the old PotD threads, but you're right. Still for all, that's a fencer, a knight, a berserker (because we'll never get that cool PoR/RD Ike), a magic swordsman (who really should have just gone all in with the tomes), Metaknight and a light saber user. Also, I dunno if I'd count Pit fully, he's more of a staff-turned-knife-turned-bow user.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Popular podcasts talked endless shit about how Smash is fucked because there's no new Nintendo characters so they had to resort to Robin and Shulk.
I can't imagine Takemaru would be on the same level of "I don't know who that is," it would probably be worse.
He voices Chrom as well. (JPN version)
Little Mac is more for the US though, I think Takamaru would have been cool for the Japanese.
But I'm guessing they went for more broad international appeal. RIP Lucas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPsHrWJbPg0
Looks like some music is being added to the Miiverse stage whenever it comes out.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Takamaru is still less weird than both Ice climbers and ROB considering his game is great and theirs are pretty bad.