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Take-Two owner Strauss Zelnick argues players ‘are ready for $70 games’
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Keihart
Member
I highly doubt that dev costs are the real problem, the big budget games are targeted at big audiences and the most derivative ones never fail to make bank. I think it's just a problem born of so many of this companies being publicly owned, investors get greedy with time and it's not enough that they are making a return, they want a bigger return as that other company that is more successful, thus the pressure trickles down.
Quasicat
Member
A buddy and I were talking about this last evening. I told him how much I liked Red Dead Redemption II on the Series X and he told me to just wait for the free upgrade like a lot of other companies have done. I told him that GTA V was full price on PS4/X1 and expect it to be another full price upgrade. He doesn’t agree. Has Rockstar games given a price on GTA V for PS5/Series X?
Kokoloko85
Member
Is it not $70 on Xbox?
Kokoloko85
Member
Games like Fifa and NBA should definitely not be 70
HE1NZ
Banned
I might have spent $40
they will be though, and their buys won't complain and continue to dump hundreds of millions into virtual currency
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Miles708
Member
So we're not gonna talk about GAAS, DLCs, season passes, seasons of DLCs, and in general leaving out content to drip-feed afterwards?
You can't raise prices and sell tons of pieces for an extra and still expect people to be happy.
Also, they try this stunt every generation change and the market is still thriving without it. If they succeed now, it's because of our stupidity, certainly not out of market necessity.
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Fuz
Banned
That's the stupidest argument I've ever read on this forum.
CONGRATULATIONS, here's your prize
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
We're not going to talk about trim models on cars? Gas? Upkeep? Insurance?
The car market is more interesting because Ferrari, Porsche, Tesla etc are in it.
Consumers need to look at products, look at the cost of said product, and make a valuation.
Melting down over 10 extra dollars is lame. Games today are exponentially better than games from 20-30 years ago. A slight price hike is fine.
theclaw135
Banned
I'll admit I agree developers who go the extra mile to make luxury experiences should be rewarded.
In the rare event a game has extraordinary production values, above and beyond everybody else, it's not right for the market to force chopping it up to permit a $60 base release.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I'm not concerned about production values.
My singular concern is fun.
I valued this:
More than this:
Production values exist in service of finding the fun. Pay for the fun.
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SentientStone
Member
For Epic games that are once per generation must-haves, I am okay with $70USD.
*cough* Give me GTA6. *cough*
*cough* Give me GTA6. *cough*
theclaw135
Banned
I'm not concerned about production values.
My singular concern is fun.
I valued this:
More than this:
Production values exist in service of finding the fun. Pay for the fun.
That doesn't mean luxury products shouldn't exist. I don't shout down my local realtor for checking my credit score, then refusing to sell me the Taj Mahal.
this thread*
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Let's take a small look into, Strauss himself.
en.wikipedia.org
Strauss Zelnick - Wikipedia
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theclaw135
Banned
Yokai Watch 3 is the red flag for the course of the next decade that slipped past everybody.
If anything in gaming can be labeled 'anti-consumer', its pitiful physical run topped the charts of brazenly getting away with it.
If anything in gaming can be labeled 'anti-consumer', its pitiful physical run topped the charts of brazenly getting away with it.
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michaelius
Banned
Question to all the people hating on him and crying about world being in crisis - have you guys actually tried buying anything recently ? The electronic entertainment is undergoing unproceeded never seen before demand due to lockdowns and travel restrictions. To put it simply there's lots of people who have unspent income and not much to do with it since most stuff is still closed.
We can dislike it all we want but they are the ones with access to sales data and market reasearch and know customer habbits better than most of us.
We can dislike it all we want but they are the ones with access to sales data and market reasearch and know customer habbits better than most of us.
Miles708
Member
While i understand your car comparison, I still believe it's not very appropriate. We're always talking about a piece of entertainment here , not a car nor another "useful" good.
Not to mention a car has costs mainly to keep it running in perfect working order (and avoiding it becoming a dangerous metal killing machine), whereas a game it's... well, it's a game.
10$/€ increase is dangerous because publishers are not good nor considerate, and a price hike could only lead to more price increases, as it has been the case with dlc and all other funny online content.
Also, I repeat, the market has never been in a better shape. There are more gamers than ever, there are more GAMES than ever, and a price increase will only be out of gluttony, not as a necessity from multi-billion worth companies.
Publishers think people are "ready for it" simply because they think, or they know, they can now get away with it.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Ok, then ice cream.
There's Ben and Jerry's and a whole bunch of cheap, inferior stuff.
Ice cream isn't "useful" either.
Build something and charge what you think you can get for it. Forcing a $60 dollar limit on entertainment is un-American.
Fbh
Member
I don't think he is wrong.
People that are currently buying $60 games often will probably just pay $70. And people who generally wait for sales will continue to do so.
To me it just means more reason to stick with PC. Console games are more expensive than ever while PC games are cheaper than ever thank to regional pricing (and third party key resellers) and options like Gamepass.
People that are currently buying $60 games often will probably just pay $70. And people who generally wait for sales will continue to do so.
To me it just means more reason to stick with PC. Console games are more expensive than ever while PC games are cheaper than ever thank to regional pricing (and third party key resellers) and options like Gamepass.
Miles708
Member
I'm not really sure how or why policies must go towards billionaire companies, who really want to increase prices because "you're ready for it" even while registering record-breaking profits for years now (and avoiding paying taxes in USA using tax heavens and legislative loopholes, but that's another problem)
Saying this is un-american doesn't really mean anything.
ScaryBrandon
Banned
I'm ready for $40 games since that is the absolute max I've ever paid.