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[neojubei]

The improvements for Vesperia sound great. Definitely going to get it. Probably will get Versus too.

yea it does. Versus sounds too good, not enough fighting games with RPG characters.

oh and Rpgmonkey, nice OP. So much info.

 

[Kagari]

PS3 added back to the Tales channel site :lol http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/taleschannel/

 

[klee123]

It's also worth noting that they still have the "new rpg" listed on the Bamco website.

 

[Datschge]

In the past Tales games were never included as "new RPG" on the Namco site afaik, those always refered to non-Tales games.

 

[MechaX]

I think Grace's system will make a lot of progress at bringing what's usually played like a 2D Fighting game, to something that now plays more like a 3D one.

Something I think Free Run didn't do. It's hardly bad or anything because of it, but I think it moved in a slightly different path than where this seems to be going with a 3D system.

It might play out more like Star Ocean 3/4 with the ability to switch styles, but who knows. Either way, it's good that they're at least attempting to make longer strides with the battle system as opposed to the "Just give them more skills" way of doing things.

 

[Black-Wind]

She could possibly be the heroine.

Hope she is!

Need to see more main characters for this game . . . >_>

 

[rykomatsu]

man...I hope the skits with Flynn in it aren't difficult to get/obscure if he only has a limited role...

 

[Jiggy]

That Graces girl's design seems better literally every time I see the picture. So spot-on perfect in that she really looks like the type who achieves endearing qualities by a natural appeal that doesn't rely on being overwrought...

Of course, all this would be shot to pieces if she's not a playable character, or if she is a playable character but they stick her with the Tales curse where every girl everywhere has to go crazy over cute animals. But for now, while she has no dialogue to potentially ruin her, I like her a lot.

 

[Pancakes]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/rykomatsu/090406_tales_35.jpg

man...I hope the skits with Flynn in it aren't difficult to get/obscure if he only has a limited role...

I know it will never happen knowing Namco, but I really wish they would give 360 users the added content via DLC.

 

[jeremy1456]

Please come to the U.S. Tales of Graces.

If it does I'll buy two copies! Same goes for Tales of Vs.

Spoiler

I still expect Arc Rise Fantasia to be better though...

 

[Kagari]

I know it will never happen knowing Namco, but I really wish they would give 360 users the added content via DLC.

Out of curiosity, did they ever put up the extra stuff that was in Eternal Sonata as DLC?

 

[jeremy1456]

Out of curiosity, did they ever put up the extra stuff that was in Eternal Sonata as DLC?

Nope.

 

[JaMarco]

That Graces girl's design seems better literally every time I see the picture. So spot-on perfect in that she really looks like the type who achieves endearing qualities by a natural appeal that doesn't rely on being overwrought...

you can tell all that from a side picture? :lol

 

[Fuu]

Whoa, thanks. If she really is the heroine, she'd be my favorite Tales heroine design pretty easily.

Edit: If she's the one who gets killed, that would really suck. I'd like to hope they wouldn't waste such a good design on an early death scene...

Same here. Really liking her design, I'll be disappointed if she goes away early.

 

[Drkirby]

Dahngrest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esv6U2dCqc0

I think you meant Fury Sparks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwH1hPMyVZU

Such a big taunt by using it only once in the game though, such a great song :/

 

[AceBandage]

I really want new video of Graces and Versus soon.

 

[ZealousD]

I think you meant Fury Sparks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwH1hPMyVZU

Such a big taunt by using it only once in the game though, such a great song :/

Fury Sparks is pretty great. Dahngrest stuck with me though, maybe because I heard it so many times.

 

[Drkirby]

I don't feel like making a new topic about this, but I started playing the original Tales of Destiny on the PS1 a few days ago. I'm not very far into it, but despite being a huge fan of this series since Symphonia I'm just really not feeling the game so far. The combat is really slow and kinda boring and the dialog really seems to be juvenile so far. It honestly doesn't feel like the Tales games I'm used to and love. Does it get any better? I would play the remake but the lack of English dialog is a deal breaker and the translation patch is pretty far out. I'm sorta feeling like giving Eternia a shot though, combat looks a lot better at least.

ToD for the PS1 was very boring IMO too. The remake I hear is very good though. Though I also gave up soon into it and just put it off to anther day when the fan translation for the PS2 version finishes/an English Wii port.

 

[rykomatsu]

I think you meant Fury Sparks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwH1hPMyVZU

Such a big taunt by using it only once in the game though, such a great song :/

I really liked Fury Sparks

 

[Pancakes]

I think you meant Fury Sparks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwH1hPMyVZU

Such a big taunt by using it only once in the game though, such a great song :/

My favorite song in the TOV OST, yea they only did use it once but it was an epic fight in my opinion. (Story spoiler)

Spoiler

Kicking the great Flynn Scifo's commandant ass!

 

[Regulus Tera]

you can tell all that from a side picture? :lol

thisisjiggydude.gif

 

[Firestorm]

The three best tracks in Vesperia:
1. Fury Sparks
2. A Tragic Decision
3. A Vow of Unity
60 or whatever the last number is. Around the World

 

[jeremy1456]

I can't help but suspect Vesperia PS3 to be the last HD tales game this generation.

I'm predicting all new Mothership titles will be DS or Wii, and all spinoffs PSP.

 

[Jiggy]

you can tell all that from a side picture? :lol

Yes, I can tell what I like about a character design by looking at a character design.

Edit: By "endearing qualities" I'm talking strictly about appearance. I have no clue what her personality will be like.

 

[Paznos]

The three best tracks in Vesperia:
1. Fury Sparks
2. A Tragic Decision
3. A Vow of Unity
60 or whatever the last number is. Around the World

I really like A Tragic Decision that was one of my favorites as well.

 

[jeremy1456]

I really like A Tragic Decision that was one of my favorites as well.

Serenade of the Morning Star is the most defining song in the game, in my opinion.

 

[ZealousD]

I can't help but suspect Vesperia PS3 to be the last HD tales game this generation.

I'm predicting all new Mothership titles will be DS or Wii, and all spinoffs PSP.

Eh, I dunno. I'm thinking that the next one by Team Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia might still be HD.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

I can't help but suspect Vesperia PS3 to be the last HD tales game this generation.

I'm predicting all new Mothership titles will be DS or Wii, and all spinoffs PSP.

We'll have to see. If there's going to be another one I don't expect it to be released (or maybe even announced) until late 2010 anyway.

It already seems pretty obvious that the majority of the series's support this gen won't be for the PS3 and/or 360 though.

 

[jeremy1456]

Eh, I dunno. I'm thinking that the next one by Team Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia might still be HD.

Is Graces by Team Symphonia? I really don't know and often confuse the teams.

 

[jeremy1456]

We'll have to see. If there's going to be another one I don't expect it to be released (or maybe even announced) until late 2010 anyway.

It already seems pretty obvious that most of the series's support won't be for the PS3 and/or 360 though.

Unless Namco opts to do something very different from how they've handled the series this generation it'll probably be announced early next year, and released that winter.

 

[Akai]

I can't help but suspect Vesperia PS3 to be the last HD tales game this generation.

I'm predicting all new Mothership titles will be DS or Wii, and all spinoffs PSP.

Well that would be the logical thing to do, so Namco won't go that way...

Vesperia PS3 sounds like it'll be meaty enough for a double-dip if it's localized, though I can't help but feel that Loli Pirate (as adorable as she is) just doesn't fit...

I also like the Graces "heroine," which it most likely is...Asbel is saying something along the lines of "I thought I could protect everyone" which sorta implies that he is reflecting on his past traumatic event, but who knows...

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Is Graces by Team Symphonia? I really don't know and often confuse the teams.

Unknown for now, though the common guess is that it's being primarily being made by people that were in Team Destiny.

The first Famitsu article for the latest Tales game seems to always have an interview that usually gives details on the group developing it, so we should have an idea of who's making Graces this week.

 

[ZealousD]

Is Graces by Team Symphonia? I really don't know and often confuse the teams.

If the game has been in development for two years already than I don't see how it'd be possible.

Who knows though. Seems like the lines have been blurring a lot between the teams as of late. DotNW and Hearts were crazy mix ups if I remember correctly.

 

[Drkirby]

The three best tracks in Vesperia:
1. Fury Sparks
2. A Tragic Decision
3. A Vow of Unity
60 or whatever the last number is. Around the World

Around the World is awesome D:

 

[grandjedi6]

Eh, I dunno. I'm thinking that the next one by Team Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia might still be HD.

The director (or someone) from Team Symphonia has already mentioned he wants to do another HD tales i think. So it really depends on whether Namco lets them. Of course since Namco's strategy is to put a Tales of something on everything I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another Tales HD game.

 

[AranhaHunter]

I can't help but suspect Vesperia PS3 to be the last HD tales game this generation.

I'm predicting all new Mothership titles will be DS or Wii, and all spinoffs PSP.

Considering the best selling Tales in Japan in the last 3 or 4 years is a spinoff on the PSP? I say the PSP is the most logical choice for the next tales mothership title and we'll just have to see how ToV sells on PS3 won't we? If it sells well, I have no doubt we'll see more tales on it or at the very least on PS360.

 

[jeremy1456]

Considering the best selling Tales in Japan in the last 3 or 4 years is a spinoff on the PSP? I say the PSP is the most logical choice for the next tales mothership title and we'll just have to see how ToV sells on PS3 won't we? If it sells well, I have no doubt we'll see more tales on it or at the very least on PS360.

I don't think ANYONE is expecting Vesperia PS3 to do well. 100k, maybe? It is a late port after all.

It seems to me that the logical thing for Namco to do is to continue releasing spin-offs on the PSP, and that's exactly what they're doing.

 

[AranhaHunter]

I don't think ANYONE is expecting Vesperia PS3 to do well. 100k, maybe? It is a late port after all.

It seems to me that the logical thing for Namco to do is to continue releasing spin-offs on the PSP, and that's exactly what they're doing.

100K for Vesperia would be decent in JP, 150K would be good in JP, agree? If it does anywhere around those numbers I think is encouraging, especially when you consider the 360's numbers for the game.

How's putting more spinoffs on PSP the logical thing to do? Again, a spinoff on PSP is the best selling Tales over the last 4 years or so, a mothership title on it makes the most sense, I don't see how you can even argue that.

 

[suffah]

I'll be double dipping on Vesperia.

Loved the game but never got around to a second play-through like I wanted. Now I will.

 

[rykomatsu]

I don't think ANYONE is expecting Vesperia PS3 to do well. 100k, maybe? It is a late port after all.

Trusty Bell did what...~90-93% of 360 sales on the PS3? I don't think it's unreasonable to atleast see %-wise something similar to ToV 360...granted it moved a lot of systems.

 

[klee123]

I think it'll do well similar to how Symphonia did for both GCN and PS2.

Trusty Bell shouldn't be compared due to the fact that it wasn't very well received by the hardcore gamers in general.

 

[jeremy1456]

100K for Vesperia would be decent in JP, 150K would be good in JP, agree? If it does anywhere around those numbers I think is encouraging, especially when you consider the 360's numbers for the game.

How's putting more spinoffs on PSP the logical thing to do? Again, a spinoff on PSP is the best selling Tales over the last 4 years or so, a mothership title on it makes the most sense, I don't see how you can even argue that.

Because Radiant Mythology 2, a spinoff, sold well on the platform. Therefore it makes sense to continue the success with a Radiant Mythology 3, does it not?

100k would be pretty decent for Vesperia, but that's pretty optimistic in my opinion. I really do hope it does well.

A spin-off isn't necessarily the best gauge for how a mothership title will perform, nor are ports of older games.

 

[jeremy1456]

I think it'll do well similar to how Symphonia did for both GCN and PS2.

Trusty Bell shouldn't be compared due to the fact that it wasn't very well received by the hardcore gamers in general.

There were a few PS2 tales games before Symphonia came out. It's pretty obvious that it would sell better on PS2 because the fanbase was already on the Sony console, up until that point they had no where else to go. Furthermore, the Symphonia port was announced even before the GC version was released.

This is not the case this time around.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Trusty Bell did what...~90-93% of 360 sales on the PS3? I don't think it's unreasonable to atleast see %-wise something similar to ToV 360...granted it moved a lot of systems.

More around 70% I think. Like half in NA, and I don't know if the game ever even released in Europe...

With the overall lack of interest late ports usually seem to get this gen and how Tales isn't that popular anymore, I'm not going to make any good guesses on how this will sell.

 

[klee123]

There were a few PS2 tales games before Symphonia came out. It's pretty obvious that it would sell better on PS2 because the fanbase was already on the Sony console, up until that point they had no where else to go. Furthermore, the Symphonia port was announced even before the GC version was released.

This is not the case this time around.

We'll see what happens, but I don't think it'll do numbers like ES, due to the fact that Vesperia is a part of a well known franchise.

Then again the tales franchise has been declining in popularity and doesn't sell as nearly as well as it used to during the PS2 days.

 

[darkwings]

I hope Graces surpass Abyss for best Tales game.

 

[Awntawn]

Trusty Bell did what...~90-93% of 360 sales on the PS3? I don't think it's unreasonable to atleast see %-wise something similar to ToV 360...granted it moved a lot of systems.

I'd imagine a larger percent than Trusty Bell. Gotta think that fan reception plays a role in the sales of a late port, if 100k people buy a game and everyone says it was disappointing, I'd imagine it would sell much less a year later than a game where people say it was a great experience. And the overall reception for ToV seems to be much, much greater than with Trusty Bell ;o

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Considering the best selling Tales in Japan in the last 3 or 4 years is a spinoff on the PSP? I say the PSP is the most logical choice for the next tales mothership title and we'll just have to see how ToV sells on PS3 won't we? If it sells well, I have no doubt we'll see more tales on it or at the very least on PS360.

Namco's rationale would be simple, why invest money for a main game when the spinoffs are profitable on the PSP?

 

[klee123]

Maybe because if spinoffs can do well on the PSP, then main games could sell even better.

 

[jump_button]

Tales of Graces is being developed by the Tales of Destiny team, it their first 3D Tales game looking good so far

finger's cross