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Texas LAN has issues with sexism, resolves it by banning women

Brobzoid

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http://kotaku.com/5824084/well-thats-one-way-to-combat-misogyny-in-gaming

Searched for several things; LAN texas women sexist, etc. didn't find a thread

kotaku said:
Enthusiasts of military-style first-person shooters are not well known for their progressive thoughts on the matter of gender. The organizers of a large LAN party in Texas, scheduled to celebrate the launch of Battlefield 3, have decided the best way to deal with any slurs hurled at female gamers is to simply forbid them from attending.

"Nothing ruins a good LAN party like uncomfortable guests or lots of tension, both of which can result from mixing immature, misogynistic male-gamers with female counterparts," the organizers originally wrote in an event FAQ. "Though we've done our best to avoid these situations in years past, we've certainly had our share of problems. As a result, we no longer allow women to attend this event.

This paragraph has since been removed, as the stink over the exclusion went viral, and replaced with: "This event is a 'gentlemen's retreat'; as such we do not allow women to attend."

Later, they clarified that with:

"We actively discourage gamers from being the kind of mysogynistic jackwagons seen in the Reddit post, and such behavior should not be tolerated. Frankly, we don't like that kind of player either. So far as this event goes, it is an special event designed specifically for male gamers. Further, it is meant as a getaway designed to help said male contingent become better men both for themselves and for those who love us."

This is a large, private event and its organizers certainly have the right to associate with whomever they please. But given what I usually hear over my headset in military shooters like Battlefield, I wonder if this party would so outwardly ban any black gamers from registering. Because it would be so, you know, uncomfortable to hear them being insulted.

Or maybe the answer here is to forbid that kind of obnoxious behavior, and kick out anyone who breaks the rule, $49 registration be damned. Or maybe this event is more about the comfort of the organizers than the participants.

:|
 

Weenerz

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Can't change people. Instead of upsetting the majority they decide to ban the minority. It sucks but makes sense in a way.
 

TheSeks

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It's a private party, they're allowed to ban women. Just like you're allowed not to go.

*shrug* I don't see the big deal, personally. Less people going to their event.
 

Darklord

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Pie Lord

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Classy. May as well ban Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, Muslims and homosexuals while they're at it.
 

Tempy

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I guess they should disallow black, jewish, gay, etc gamers from entry as well then. @_@
 

Vamphuntr

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Horrible. Simply horrible. Kotaku is spot on for once. It's way better to simply kick out those that use slurs than banning women. Are they also banning black and gay players who also get insulted a lot on XBL?
 

Foffy

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TheSeks said:
It's a private party, they're allowed to ban women. Just like you're allowed not to go.

*shrug* I don't see the big deal, personally. Less people going to their event.

People might assume it to be "hurr hurr women make the men all nervous" when it could be the times that women came around, they mingled with their partner. Assuming all of the women were taken and did something like this, of course.
 

SapientWolf

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TheSeks said:
It's a private party, they're allowed to ban women. Just like you're allowed not to go.

*shrug* I don't see the big deal, personally. Less people going to their event.
It's incredibly close minded and completely shirks responsibility for the real problem. Everyone should be feel welcome at a LAN.
 

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One of the girls who supposedly went actually posted about their experience on the reddit post:

Some inside information - I 'attended' one of their LANS in December. Some dickstain at the event challenged me and my team to a match. He figured I was just another casual girl and proceeded to shit talk me, saying, and I quote,

"After I rape you, I'm going to rip out your ovaries and feed them to my dog like the bitch you are".

Everyone at the event laughed and made comments along the lines of, "Oh shit! You gonna take that? You gonna get raped girl. We've got the best team around."

Once they saw my gamertag, eZ Deadpool, they recognized me. I'm on the #1 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 team in the World. After my team beat them in a Best of 5 Series 5-0 with scores averaging 50-10, they told me I had to leave the event for cheating.

TL;DR - This event is ran by a bunch of fat nerds who suck at the game and don't welcome women who are better than them.

Posting on a throwaway so it doesn't come off as karma whoring for calling them out on the truth. Can verify with lingrush. She knows me.
 

Valnen

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TheSeks said:
It's a private party, they're allowed to ban women.
They're allowed, but it doesn't make it any less sexist or awful. Just because something doesn't break the law doesn't mean it isn't immoral.

I for one am glad I don't live in Texas and am not interested in this event. Anyone that attends looks worse for doing so.
 

Deadbeat

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Women arent missing out. All these assholes are egotistical pieces of shit. LAN events are awful places to be.
I understand the importance of combating sexism, but how about we apply that to things that matter first than videogames
duckroll said:
Holy shit, that's some 1930s shit right there.
Except those men in the 1930s have had sex before.
 

Cow Mengde

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Deadbeat said:
Women arent missing out. All these assholes are egotistical pieces of shit. LAN events are awful places to be.

Yeah, that's looking at the bright side of things, but it still sucks. I rather woman ignoring this event and not going than seeing them get banned.
 
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It's incredibly close minded and completely shirks responsibility for the real problem. Everyone should be feel welcome at a LAN.
Exactly. Dismissing this because it's a private event is totally missing the point: rather than confronting the sexism and misogyny within their ranks, this group is excluding any potential female participants. Rather than dealing with their shit, their being even shittier.
 

mollipen

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So what about the white players talking shit to black players, for example? Would that be put up with? If not, then why not use the same rules of courtesy in regards to female players? If so, then are black players also banned?
 

DR2K

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Deadbeat said:
I understand the importance of combating sexism, but how about we apply that to things that matter first than videogames

If you can't even combat on a small scale like this, than how can you expect to combat it on a bigger level?
 

Darklord

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angelfly said:
One of the girls who supposedly went actually posted about their experience on the reddit post:

Newsflash: Nerds who can't talk to women talk shit to compensate for lacking the confidence to have a normal chat or dare ask them out like they all would probably be dying to do.
 

dimb

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angelfly said:
One of the girls who supposedly went actually posted about their experience on the reddit post:
This is pretty hilarious, although it is probably fake.
 

derFeef

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God damn, some people are stuck in early 1900 mindset. What that guy said (quoted in the reddit post) is disgusting - and then they have no balls to accept their defeat.
 

SneakyStephan

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How about kicking every one of those sad little nerds out when they open their virgin mouths instead.
Also LOL gaf will defend everything and anything to try n feel clever by moaning about details or semantics or crazy theories.

If I were a woman and went to that thing, I'd bring some bulky male friends to punch some manners into those nerds.
Just imagining them saying the shit from that quote in their cletus hick voice makes the hairs on the back of my neck rise.
 

AtomskEater

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This is a damn shame. :|

They are indeed allowed to invite whomever they want to their private gatherings, but their reasoning and PR is just mindbogglingly dumb. I guess if women feel like it they would make their own LAN event, and kick out people who make inappropriate comments.
 

Deadbeat

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DR2K said:
If you can't even combat on a small scale like this, than how can you expect to combat it on a bigger level?
The bigger issues are fought with much more people involved (and women's rights groups). The handful of women that play competitively are on their own sadly.
vidal said:
No, they aren't (in my experiences).
Sorry, I mean to say that some people at lan events are awful.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

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There are lots of events and activities for men only or women only so I really can't feel much indignation about this, but the messaging was poorly handled, for sure.
 

a1m

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It's their party and frankly they can decide who can enter. Again Gaf being a white knight and saying everyone should feel welcome. Screw that.

Only in America.

SneakyStephan said:
How about kicking every one of those sad little nerds out when they open their virgin mouths instead.
Also LOL gaf will defend everything and anything to try n feel clever by moaning about details or semantics or crazy theories.

If I were a woman and went to that thing, I'd bring some bulky male friends to punch some manners into those nerds.
Just imagining them saying the shit from that quote in their cletus hick voice makes the hairs on the back of my neck rise.
Wow. Good luck with your life. I bet you're the toughest kid on your block.
 

SMT

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Cue the ''Only in Texas'' quote.

Well, girls are the only fun part about LAN parties, and or any parties in general.
 

SneakyStephan

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a1m said:
It's their party and frankly they can decide who can enter. Again Gaf being a white knight and saying everyone should feel welcome. Screw that.

Only in America.


Wow. Good luck with your life. I bet you're the toughest kid on your block.
Where did that even come from? Did I somehow offend you? Are you perchance one of those big mouth sexist lan kids?

They talk trash and should get their come up ins, I did not mention any violence of my own, so why even go the 'durrrrr tough guy' route.
SMH, fucking hicks.
 

Nix

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Yo, that girl who posted on Reddit, props to her. I like that she didn't whine (supposedly) and just proceeded to annihilate their whole team. Seriously, I don't like to play FPS's much, but are there that many douches on the scene? I mean, really? Sore losers much.
 

pillarofdawn

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/rant But really guys, is this that surprising coming from Texas? I think this actually isn't surprising coming from a "Hardcore Gamer" demographic. I mean if they get beat by anyone,let alone a girl, they feel threatened. I mean self declared "hardcore gamers" usually feel like they have something to prove because they have assburgers and don't know how to treat a lady properly :p /end rant

oh and I hope there isn't any tardburgers like this at PDX LAN