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[the_master]

We should give some praise to any developer or manufacturer when they make a decision that benefit the game and the players.
Especiallyly such a hard one like this.

We all saw it, the game was not ready. They cound not had finished it in time.

It was probably the toughest call 343 and MS have had to make, but it is the best call.

It is the best for the players, no doubt.

They will now offer a better game, they will showcase better the Series X and they may be able to have his flagship back in action and be a powerful reason to get the console.


The fans have been asking for it every day, lierally asking them to blame covid.

I am glad they delayed it.

Edit:
"The decision to shift our release is the result of multiple factors that have contributed to development challenges, including the ongoing COVID-related impacts affecting us all this year. I want to acknowledge the hard work from our team at 343 Industries, who have remained committed to making a great game and finding solutions to development challenges. However, it is not sustainable for the well-being of our team or the overall success of the game to ship it this holiday."

 

[Agnostic2020]

Glad they delayed it but ps5 Road to 10 million became like a cake walk for sony . Competition is needed and ms isn't giving any unfortunately. Hopefully soon .

 

[deriks]

It was the right choice. I hope they do a fine job

 

[30yearsofhurt]

We should give some praise to any developer or manufacturer when they make a decision that benefit the game and the players.
Especiallyly such a hard one like this.

We all saw it, the game was not ready. They cound not had finished it in time.

It was probably the toughest call 343 and MS have had to make, but it is the best call.

It is the best for the players, no doubt.

They will now offer a better game, they will showcase better the Series X and they may be able to have his flagship back in action and be a powerful reason to get the console.


The fans have been asking for it every day, lierally asking them to blame covid.

I am glad they delayed it.

 

[Raekwon26]

Praise?

For what? Recognising their own incompetence?

"Hooray, we suck."

 

[Eimran]

No intention to play this game, but when it comes to Quality over quantity I prefer to wait a little bit longer than having a mediocre game each year.

 

[noise36]

It's the right decision, just get it right. Once it lands and gets a 90+ (optimism yes) metacritic no one will care about the delay.

 

[Beer Baelly]

 

[Arun1910]

Clearly the right choice to make but the pressure is definitely on next year. If they don't show any graphical / IQ improvement worthy of next gen then there will be no point delaying it.

 

[chemical boy]

What have they done during these last 5 years of development?

 

[MayauMiao]

They probably saw the number or pre-orders not meeting expectation due to the Craig incident.

 

[30yearsofhurt]

Dear Phil Spencer,
Thank you.
It wasn't you that was incompetent.
It was us xbox fans who were too demanding.
Thank you for showing us the error of our ways.

Sincerely,
OP

 

[Warnen]

Ill be looking forward when it comes out.

Feeling like everything been delayed a half a year lately anyways so no big surprise. Still got Cyberpunk this year (Jinx)!

 

[Entroyp]

I think this is a new low for some xbox fans, thanking MS for being incompetent.

It was the right choice, yes. But I would be pissed off for sure.

‘Thank you husband for punching me in the face once again. Next time I will make sure not to look the other way and stand still and look you in the eye.‘

 

[kretos]

 

[VAVA Mk2]

If you really wanna continue to do the right thing, MS, fire Bonnie Ross and put someone else in charge of the studio that can actually manage and cares about the franchise.

 

[RaySoft]

WTF MS? You started so strong out of the gate.. Who the hell decided to flex that muscle prematurely? This was your primary weapon going into next-gen, and you managed to fuck it up......again!

 

[DynamiteCop!]

By the time this game comes out there might not even be an Xbox console to release it on, they slit their own throats by not ensuring this was absolutely completed by launch or that there was a contingency plan in the event it couldn't launch.

They have literally nothing prepared for the launch of this console, the biggest thing they have is a 7 million dollar timed exclusive from an indie developer. They have lost the plot and have mismanaged everything from bottom to top.

 

[Raekwon26]

Dear Phil Spencer,
Thank you.
It wasn't you that was incompetent.
It was us xbox fans who were too demanding.
Thank you for showing us the error of our ways.

Sincerely,
OP

What's so scary about this is....................... this comment isn't far from reality. They truly believe this.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I think this is a new low for xbox fans, thanking MS for being incompetent.

It was the right choice, yes. But I would be pissed off for sure.

‘Thank you husband for punching me in the face once again. Next time I will make sure not to look the other way and stand still and look you in the eyes.‘

Not all of us feel the same way as the OP.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Not all of us feel the same way as the OP.

Nobody cares how you guys feel or how much you try to brown nose these perpetual debacles from Xbox, this is a disaster.

 

[Zimmy68]

We should give some praise to any developer or manufacturer when they make a decision that benefit the game and the players.
Especiallyly such a hard one like this.

We all saw it, the game was not ready. They cound not had finished it in time.

It was probably the toughest call 343 and MS have had to make, but it is the best call.

It is the best for the players, no doubt.

They will now offer a better game, they will showcase better the Series X and they may be able to have his flagship back in action and be a powerful reason to get the console.


The fans have been asking for it every day, lierally asking them to blame covid.

I am glad they delayed it.

Edit:
"The decision to shift our release is the result of multiple factors that have contributed to development challenges, including the ongoing COVID-related impacts affecting us all this year. I want to acknowledge the hard work from our team at 343 Industries, who have remained committed to making a great game and finding solutions to development challenges. However, it is not sustainable for the well-being of our team or the overall success of the game to ship it this holiday."

The problem is, we all saw it, the game wasn't close to being ready. It looked like an OG Xbox One game with so so graphics.
You can't polish a turd in 6 months.

 

[mcjmetroid]

Ya this was their only hope.

They basically had a new Halo game going against a Spiderman DLC game.

Unfortunately for them the game didn't deliver for a lot of people. I still thought It looked fun but there you go.

 

[Agnostic2020]

WTF MS? You started so strong out of the gate.. Who the hell decided to flex that muscle prematurely? This was your primary weapon going into next-gen, and you managed to fuck it up......again!

Everything fell apart. I remember xboxera discord (memeber called code) was saying sony will use covid as an excuse for everything cause they r not ready and they got caught. Look what happened karma is a bitch

 

[Great Hair]

Their lead designer left 2019 and apparently they're been working at it since 2016?

4 years later, Craig has a vitamin D and P deficiency and if we add how long it took them to fix the Master Chief Collection?

How's that a commendable attitude? Phil even said that "for the first two years, there won't be any XSX exclusives" ... I guess he knew then, that most of their studios if not all, were not ready yet.

 

[M1chl]

343i should be burned to the ground, give it to the Coalition at least they proved themself in shipping normal product. Holy shit, that studio is swimming in 100s of mil USD and they suck.

Halo 5 was good, but obviously different times, diversity hires and all that bullshit.

 

[TLZ]

Good. Now give it to someone else and keep 343 so far away from it. I remember reading someone else joined the development. I hope it's been given to them completely.

 

[the_master]

I think this is a new low for xbox fans, thanking MS for being incompetent.

It was the right choice, yes. But I would be pissed off for sure.

‘Thank you husband for punching me in the face once again. Next time I will make sure not to look the other way and stand still and look you in the eyes.‘

I am not an xbox fan. I have been a playstation 4 gamer this whole generation. But I really like games, and I also like Halo.

The punch in the face would be to release the unfinished product.

I understand people feel about companies the same way they feel about football teams. It is pointless though. I like to play games and I like the games to come out as good as possible.

 

[SNG32]

This shit reminds me of Crackdown 3 all over again. Watch it not come out until 2022.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Nobody cares how you guys feel or how much you try to brown nose these perpetual debacles from Xbox, this is a disaster.

I wasn’t mate, I’ve been saying for a while how basically the Xbox One generation is their worst and I’m certainly not impressed with this current regime.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Dear Phil Spencer,
Thank you.
It wasn't you that was incompetent.
It was us xbox fans who were too demanding.
Thank you for showing us the error of our ways.

Sincerely,
OP

The irony of your post plus your username,it all ties together lol.

 

[RaySoft]

By the time this game comes out there might not even be an Xbox console to release it on, they slit their own throats by not ensuring this was absolutely completed by launch or that there was a contingency plan in the event it couldn't launch.

They have literally nothing prepared for the launch of this console, the biggest thing they have is a 7 million dollar timed exclusive from an indie developer. They have lost the plot and have mismanaged everything from bottom to top.

It seems as MS have just caved:-( It's only "gamepass" chants at this point, sadly:-/

 

[M1chl]

It seems as MS have just caved:-( It's only "gamepass" chants at this point, sadly:-/

Well in that case, they should bring Cyberpunk 2077 on GP day 1....

 

[01011001]

If 343i keeps the development duties for this franchise after this shitshow then Microsoft basically kills Halo with it.

this studio single handedly managed to kill one of gaming's biggest franchises, and after a 5, FIVE!, year development cycle they still hadn't listened to fan feedback and they still couldn't ship a game on time.

343i is a burden and has to be closed down immediately after this game launches, either that or the whole studio needs to be completely reformed.

they fucked up 2 Halo games and a Halo collection, so basically everything they ever made was a failure. THEY are a failure.

but its not like that's a new take what I'm saying here, that's what many Halo fans said since at least Halo 5's launch, if not longer than that.

 

[the_master]

The problem is, we all saw it, the game wasn't close to being ready. It looked like an OG Xbox One game with so so graphics.
You can't polish a turd in 6 months.

They had about 4 months between the reveal and the original release date. Now they may have one year and 3 months. That may be what the game needs to be completed.

 

[MacReady13]

Perfect decision, but I wonder if Microsoft decided to put more resources into their games divisions instead of focusing on Game Pass and X Cloud, then Halo might have been ready for launch...? Or am I way off the mark here?

Either way, it was the right call. Not good for Microsoft as they've pretty much given up Xmas to the PS5, but it was needed after that terrible showing last month.

 

[Arun1910]

What have they done during these last 5 years of development?

Develop primarily for the Xbox One.

 

[Vawn]

By the time this game comes out there might not even be an Xbox console to release it on, they slit their own throats by not ensuring this was absolutely completed by launch or that there was a contingency plan in the event it couldn't launch.

They have literally nothing prepared for the launch of this console, the biggest thing they have is a 7 million dollar timed exclusive from an indie developer. They have lost the plot and have mismanaged everything from bottom to top.

So THIS was the straw? You went from defending every move Xbox makes to pure hatred over a delayed game?

 

[M1chl]

Develop primarily for the Xbox One.

Yeah well so what, what they showed looks even worse then their shipped already product. It looks like OG XB1 launch title, it's ridiculous.

 

[sn0man]

I am not an xbox fan. I have been a playstation 4 gamer this whole generation. But I really like games, and I also like Halo.

The punch in the face would be to release the unfinished product.

I understand people feel about companies the same way they feel about football teams. It is pointless though. I like to play games and I like the games to come out as good as possible.

Well said.

I went PS4 but I really like Halo as a franchise (at least through Reach).

Halo is as close to a mascot for Xbox as they have. It deserves a better shot at a next gen release than what they showed.

 

[M.W.]

Delay the console too.

 

[Represent.]

The game looked like a literal XBox 360 game. I dont know what the fuck they were doing for 5 years.

They shouldn't have had to delay.

 

[FunkMiller]

The sentiment is nice, OP - but those fuckers have had five years and 500 million.

It‘s fucking insulting to XBox fans that they couldn’t get a HALO game done for this console launch.

 

[Arun1910]

Yeah well so what, what they showed looks even worse then their shipped already product. It looks like OG XB1 launch title, it's ridiculous.

I know it looks like shit, I was just answering the question.

 

[kingpotato]

I am not an xbox fan. I have been a playstation 4 gamer this whole generation. But I really like games, and I also like Halo.

The punch in the face would be to release the unfinished product.

I understand people feel about companies the same way they feel about football teams. It is pointless though. I like to play games and I like the games to come out as good as possible.

Putting a fresh date on it right away doesn't instill confidence. If it needs time, delay it indefinitely and get it right.

If 343i keeps the development duties for this franchise after this shitshow then Microsoft basically kills Halo with it.

this studio single handedly managed to kill one of gaming's biggest franchises, and after a 5, FIVE!, year development cycle they still hadn't listened to fan feedback and they still couldn't ship a game on time.

343i is a burden and has to be closed down immediately after this game launches, either that or the whole studio needs to be completely reformed.

they fucked up 2 Halo games and a Halo collection, so basically everything they ever made was a failure. THEY are a failure.

but its not like that's a new take what I'm saying here, that's what many Halo fans said since at least Halo 5's launch, if not longer than that.

The publisher has got to take part of the blame when they're demanding a cross gen open world shooter that runs on a wide range of devices including the launch Xbox One.

 

[Journey]

God! this Fall is going to suck!

 

[Vawn]

Thanks Phil!

 

[HarryKS]

Ah, I see the promises are being broken already.

 

[Stuart360]

If its purely a graphics thing, i wouldnt of delayed it, but thats just me. If its a gameplay thing, and the game simply isnt where they want to be, then go for it.

 

[Craig of War]

Delay the console too.

You may get your wish 2020 has been a year not seen since the great depression so you might get it and both console will be delay.