twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
It's not ass-ugly, it's retro, a throwback to the '67 fastback.
The news that the next Mustang is going to ape styling from the Ford Evos concept has me worried.
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It's not ass-ugly, it's retro, a throwback to the '67 fastback.
The news that the next Mustang is going to ape styling from the Ford Evos concept has me worried.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
The problem with the current Mustang is that it looks too gigantic. Too bulky and square.
They had the right dimensions with the New Edge Mustang in the late 90s, but it just became too damn big with the redesigned throwback. Considering the size of the Camaro, even the new Challenger is going to shrink in size considerably, so it makes perfect sense for Ford to do the same.
They had the right dimensions with the New Edge Mustang in the late 90s, but it just became too damn big with the redesigned throwback. Considering the size of the Camaro, even the new Challenger is going to shrink in size considerably, so it makes perfect sense for Ford to do the same.
If they can shrink it without decreasing the already small interior, that would be great. The Cadillac ATS probably gives us a good idea of the size of the next Camaro, and it's got only 30 inches or so of leg room, as a 4-door. While I agree the Challenger is huge, comically so when placed next to the original, I do like the idea of a large coupe. Considering that it's mechanically just a 2-door Charger, they should give it the new Charger's updates and just call it a Charger Coupe.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Ladies and gentlemen, the new Concept Style Coupe (baby-CLS)
I'm cumming buckets.
I'm cumming buckets.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Ladies and gentlemen, the new Concept Style Coupe (baby-CLS)
I'm cumming buckets.
Not a fan of the front grille, other than that, looks excellent.
Ladies and gentlemen, the new Concept Style Coupe (baby-CLS)
I'm cumming buckets.
whats with the double-spoiler looking section on the rear?
Otherwise it looks quite good, but I think I prefer the hard-edged Mercedes style (current c-class coupe *droool*) compared to this bulbous look.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Yesterday, I was driving alongside a brand new 2nd gen CLS550 and despite how much I hate Mercedes as a brand and their cars bore me to death, I said to my girlfriend "I love the CLS because you can tell Benz went in and told their designers "hey, don't make this one as boring as the rest" and they listen".
This baby CLS reaffirms exactly what I said.
This baby CLS reaffirms exactly what I said.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
The modern Mustang hate in this thread bums me out.
AlanzTalon
Member
exactly. at some point you have to look modern....they will do fine in including mustang cues. it will be a Mustang make no doubt...but the reality of new fuel/safety/euro/financial requirements are that it will need to be drastically different.
I mean, if you want a retro-looking Mustang...they are building thousands of them RIGHT NOW. buy one.
Bah, a 4-door 2000 2.5rs showed up on craigslist and before I can even email about head gasket work it's deleted.
I agree, modern styling is bad. The 90's were bad too but there were still some very nice looking cars imo. However, can't really say it's unexpected with all of the regulations cars have to meet these days. I just hate the raised back ends of cars as a result.
I agree, modern styling is bad. The 90's were bad too but there were still some very nice looking cars imo. However, can't really say it's unexpected with all of the regulations cars have to meet these days. I just hate the raised back ends of cars as a result.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Oh no! Who left the plastic model out all day in the sun?! The photoshoot is in five minutes! What are we going to do?!
ClassyPenguin
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I just don't like the aesthetics, Underneath it all is a beast of a car. I am allowed that, aren't I?
shinshoryuken
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Agree, the new styling of the Mustang is the only reason I actually payed attention to them. Before that that the only american car i cared about are corvettes.
But yeah style/looks are subjective, but you can't deny performance.
Looking for some advice automotive-Gaf.
Up till now all the mods I've done (plenty of them) on my MY99 Impreza can be removed so it can go back to stock. Not that it ever will.
But now I'm looking at maybe, maybe fitting stuff in the dash to cover up the button blanks. I don't know why but they are really starting to bother me!
I remember ages ago you used to be able to get tiny led readouts for outside temp etc that would fit in button holes but I can't find any now and nobody has seen anything like that for years.
Any ideas gratefully received!
Up till now all the mods I've done (plenty of them) on my MY99 Impreza can be removed so it can go back to stock. Not that it ever will.
But now I'm looking at maybe, maybe fitting stuff in the dash to cover up the button blanks. I don't know why but they are really starting to bother me!
I remember ages ago you used to be able to get tiny led readouts for outside temp etc that would fit in button holes but I can't find any now and nobody has seen anything like that for years.
Any ideas gratefully received!
U n i o n 0015
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The new Mustang is awesome. I drove a 5.0 GT when it debuted a few years back and it was a fantastic car.
I'd love to own one someday if it makes sense. At this point I'm going to be car-downsizing, though.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Absolutely! I'm the same way with a lot of popular cars, such as the EVO. Dude at work drives one and it's a fucking BEAST, I love riding in it, but I just can't like the outside looks of it.
33-Hit-Combo
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Viperbah
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I drove one as well when they first came out. There is not much else you can get that compares to the performance for the price.
As far as the aesthetics, it's ok imo, I like the looks of the Camaro better, esp with the SS hood.
How about putting buttons in which do nothing?
Or putting in buttons to do stuff that's really random and useless? Even more useless than the "bright" button
MiniBossBattle
Member
I think this is the first time I have seen Consumer Reports drift a car.
Its the BRZ.
Its the BRZ.
33-Hit-Combo
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Or putting in buttons to do stuff that's really random and useless? Even more useless than the "bright" button
Well you only mentioned the blanks were annoying you! Gonna be hard to find something functional without being extremely DIY about it I think.
Man, nothing good ever comes of those threads. They are death traps.
Anyway, here is a neat video of a stock F10 M5 racing a Z06. It really shows just how big a difference a dual clutch transmission makes.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/FJ5bG81c6Sw
Viperbah
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Damn...if the z06 wasn't tuned the M5 probably would have won.
M5 looks boring as hell to drive though....give me the manual anyday (I think they are offering a 6 speed in the us for the m5)
Speaking of Mustang styling...
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/16/next-ford-mustang-to-ditch-retro-look-in-favor-of-futuristic-evo/
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/16/next-ford-mustang-to-ditch-retro-look-in-favor-of-futuristic-evo/
It's a concept car...
Diseased Yak
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Well, a 2011 Mustang GT/CS is my daily driver, so i'm biased, but yeah, nothing compares really. The fucking thing is beastly, and wasn't that expensive (38k-ish).
I do love the look of the Camaro, and test-drove the shit outta the 2SS when I was looking to buy. I drove everything performance-related under $50k with an open mind, and easily chose the Mustang at the end of it. The Camaro, for all it's looks and nifty heads-up display, was like driving in a sealed box that only had little slits to look out of. Seriously, I could not see out of it clearly, and I'm 6'2". The windows are just tiny. The steering felt off as well, compared to the fight-for-it-but-love-it style of the Mustang.
Those Mercedes concept car wheels are so f'n ugly, damn. Also, not a fan of the rear.
Yeah, the Camaro is a good example of why concept cars don't translate well to production. They often look fantastic, but often sacrifice practicality.
Viperbah
Member
Nice...I would love a 5.0 as a daily. I have an 04 GTO as a daily and played with a new 5.0 coming out of a toll booth last month....it wasn't pretty, haha.
Sorry, didn't mean to seem wanky about it. I like the idea!
The good thing is that the standard centre buttons are a on/off switch, 4 way adjust and a push on button so there's plenty of scope. I just can't think of anything practical with them that I actually want to do to my car. Maybe impractical is the way to go! I have a mate who filled up a gauge pod space with something like this:
That's taking things a bit too far for me
EDIT: Can't get the pic to work right but it's a joke gauge that goes on the intake.
And that's a great looking scooby ameratsu. I've always liked that type of front bumper.
You're just toying with my feelings man
Oh haha I knew there were some posts about the 2.5RS a few pages back. I thought they were pretty rare as I don't see many around town. Unfortunately it is a little late now, but I will call him tomorrow.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Speaking of Mustang styling...
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/16/next-ford-mustang-to-ditch-retro-look-in-favor-of-futuristic-evo/
They sure love that Astin inspired front.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think the problem is that the market for people who want to buy Mustangs aren't going to want to buy that.
That's the concept that set the tone for their new look.
I don't believe that. Besides, they'll have to do some styling changes at the least if they want to make the Mustang a global vehicle. Losing 5,000 sales a year in the US and gaining 30,000 more globally is worth it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sure, except those sales figures are completely hypothetical. All you have to do is go to the Mustang forum and find out what they think of it; moreover, it's not like the Mustang always had "retro" styling, and it was never popular outside the US.
The Mustang has remained a profitable car during years when a car like that had no business being a profitable car. I can't see them deciding to fragment their domestic market for an entirely speculative Euromarket that has never once liked the car. I don't know, it just gets tiring hearing people who never liked what the car does demanding it be reinvented as a Corvette or an M3. It's just not reasonable to demand an already borderline overpriced car somehow lose a quarter-ton + be given a sizable reduction in dimensions without either changing what the car is or making it far too expensive for its market to buy it.
mclaren777
Member
Agree 100%.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
What are people's thoughts on the late-model (2009-2011) Jeep Liberty?
I'm looking to put about $7K down on a vehicle less than $20K - the cheaper, the better; and I'm definitely only interested if it has 30K miles or less. Work is going to have me driving quite a bit more over the next couple years, and so I'd like to get something that can handle the snow. Furthermore, I'm a pretty big guy, and would like to have lots of room. And I'm going to be "re-locating" quite a bit, and so four doors and a big trunk area would be handy. I've gone through a lot of different cars - Suburus, Ford Taurus, Fusion, etc; and I just think I'd prefer an SUV.
So, just kinda trying to see what the general consensus is. I think I can snag a 4WD, V6 2010ish Liberty for about $18K if I look around.
I've taken a look at the GMC Arcadia, but that was too big and too pricey. The Escape is nice, but again, with <30K miles, they're about 3K more than the Liberty. I like the new Durango - but that's WAY too much. I hate the looks of the Dodge Nitro. I'd rather stick to American (yeah, I already know that's silly - I just prefer it); but if I was going foreign, I'd consider a Nissan, but all of their stuff is too pricey, too.
I'm looking to put about $7K down on a vehicle less than $20K - the cheaper, the better; and I'm definitely only interested if it has 30K miles or less. Work is going to have me driving quite a bit more over the next couple years, and so I'd like to get something that can handle the snow. Furthermore, I'm a pretty big guy, and would like to have lots of room. And I'm going to be "re-locating" quite a bit, and so four doors and a big trunk area would be handy. I've gone through a lot of different cars - Suburus, Ford Taurus, Fusion, etc; and I just think I'd prefer an SUV.
So, just kinda trying to see what the general consensus is. I think I can snag a 4WD, V6 2010ish Liberty for about $18K if I look around.
I've taken a look at the GMC Arcadia, but that was too big and too pricey. The Escape is nice, but again, with <30K miles, they're about 3K more than the Liberty. I like the new Durango - but that's WAY too much. I hate the looks of the Dodge Nitro. I'd rather stick to American (yeah, I already know that's silly - I just prefer it); but if I was going foreign, I'd consider a Nissan, but all of their stuff is too pricey, too.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
I'm 6'2" and have had no visibility issues whatsoever. Is it something you have to adjust to? Yea, it likely is as most cars have better outwards visibility... but it doesn't hinder my driving in any way, shape, or form. I got a brand new 2SS/RS for $33k. Very, very hard to beat that, I'd say.
PseudoKirby
Banned
What are you looking for specifically? a coupe or a sedan? there have been a number of decently priced GCs lately, you are checking craigslist right?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=Impreza&srchType=T&minAsk=5&maxAsk=5000
The GMC Terrain is probably closer to the size you want than the Acadia. Also look at its cousin the Chevy Equinox. Mechanically they are pretty much the same, but they look very different. Both have the handy feature where the rear seats can slide forward and backward.
That's gonna be my next company car!
it's a beauty by design and a clever idea to spec a car to be fun at medium speeds.
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