Yup, their weighting is total shit.
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The Economist Safe Cities Index 2017: Tokyo is the safest city in the world
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LegendofDragoonLives
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How is Chicago safe lol? WTF
Boy Wander
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LA being safer than London surprised me.
Waddle Dee
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Damn it I thought I was gonna be creative by posting Yakzua shit.
...How is that separate from safety?
Sunster
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there are not nearly enough for all women and they are only available a peak hours.
schwabdizzle
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Right, especially with gun violence being an epidemic and I live in St. Louis.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Yay 7th safest
Paulistas do love to end their lives early in car accidents.
Same here. I love going to Tokyo and dont have to deal with being mugged if walking the streets alone.
Yeah, I've seen your crime statistics. They're not as bad as where I live or other cities in Mexico, ha!
And we feel pretty safe overall.
Subpar Spatula
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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Barring certain areas I've never once felt worried or threatened walking the streets of Toronto.
North York, Rexdale and parts of Scarborough scary though.
North York, Rexdale and parts of Scarborough scary though.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
Yeah strange weighting, I can't seem to see how they weighted each of the subindices.
therealist
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Tokyo is nice but its also extremely homogeneous and xenophobic. I'd take a higher chance of getting mugged over living in a place like that any day.
Agent_ShortBus
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Sounds about right. Friend and I were super fucked up one night in Tokyo and pretty much blacked out and fell asleep in a kids park? Woke up and I still had all my shit including all my money I brought for the trip, also met and hung out with this Japanese salary man who was throwing up in the parks restroom( I went in to throw up also). Last I remember is we went to a 7-11 and Don Quijote. Bought a couple more beers and drank at the park. No way I'd feel safe passing out in the street in the U.S. or in Mexico. Shout out to my boy Yusei for hanging with us.
Patrick Bateman
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Ive been twice to Japan and its supersafe. Ive never seen one police man in whole Tokyo except when I passed the police station. No cop cars with alarm or anything.
Its just not necessary.
Chicago safer than London/New York is absurd, even if the data completely ignored the west/south sides. Also unclear what they mean by the term megacity, there's a huge difference between a single city and a larger metropolitan area and it isn't clear how they breakdown that distinction/if they do at all. Chicago/suburbs are completely different beyond the border towns and it makes no sense in terms of how security is handled by city and local police forces. Digital security also seems completely overrated when the other three categories consistently threaten life and limb when digital security pretty much only threatens financial livelihood.
Who on earth would steal a cop car though.
Its the economist
Yup. One night in particular in Tokyo resulted in a bit of embarrassment at worst, but in almost any other city on the planet one of us would have been dead in an alley somewhere. Ridiculously safe city.
Definitely confirm Tokyo, been there twice now. I've been out bar hopping in the middle of Shibuya into the wee hours with wads of cash (for all of their technology Japan is still a cash-centric society though it has improved greatly with more ATMs for foreigners and contactless payments) and not feel in the slightest bit threatened.
Osaka, on the other hand, was a bit more urban (granted the hostel my group were staying in was in a more rundown part of the city), that city reminded me more of Central and South London, with bikes and mopeds everywhere. Maybe it was safer than it looked? It was certainly less pristine than the ivory towers and emerald roads of Tokyo that's for sure.
PS - surprised London wasn't lower amongst the big world cities...
Most of the methed-outed nutjobs that populate the US midwest or any idiot in most metropolitan areas.
Just confirming that I mean people on meth, not that the entire midwest is on meth. Reference: I live in the midwest.
Mattakuevan
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Huh... where the hell is San Diego on this. We're a way safer city than freaking LA.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
They seem to consider "perceptions" of safety in the personal security category for some reason. As if perceptions have any influence on reality.
pseudocaesar
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I cant take this ranking seriously at all.. because there is no way to accurately measure every city on the planet. You're trying to tell me that living in LA, Chicago, Kuwait City, Mexico City, Cairo, Tehran etc etc are safer than my city of Hobart in Australia... or any capital city in Australia for that matter?
Some of the cities listed are almost stereo-typically bad in terms of perception of safety/crime etc. Hell... Chicago is nicknamed Chiraq because of how violent it is.
Some of the cities listed are almost stereo-typically bad in terms of perception of safety/crime etc. Hell... Chicago is nicknamed Chiraq because of how violent it is.
Austriacus
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Of course it has an influence on reality, how safe you believe you are affects how you handle living in a city and what measures you take to live in it. For example, in a city you percieve as more dangeours you might chose to carry a gun or a pocket knife, which could lead to an escalation of a situation that didnt need it. Multiply that by millions of citizens not feeling safe and you got people not trusting each other and the city being more dangeours as a result.
Also im really confused at people believing the cities that are not here didnt make the cut or something, i doubt you can rank every city in the world, its possible that the criteria they did to choose these cities might have been as simple as amount of readers they have in them or where their correspondents find themeselves.
FrankCanada97
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Oh, I took it to mean outside perceptions. Your explanation makes sense.
Chaos2Frozen
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Only number two?! Theres no glory in second place!
I leave my wallet and laptop and cell phone on my table when I go to the bathroom in a busy Starbucks nobody will ever touch it.
You can see passed out salarymen outside stations with their wallet and phone sitting on their chest nobody will touch it.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
Toronto also has a larger population than Chicago.
Yep. It's crazy watching LITTLE kids going to school on their own in a city of more than the million people. I mean like six year olds. It's kind of awesome. I have never felt unsafe in Tokyo and the most drama you ever see is hawkers in Roppongi getting grabby with customers, or wasted salarymen mumbling vaguely racist shit at you but turtling when you ask them WTF they just said.
Neither is Helsinki or Oslo. I call swedish shenanigans.
Insane Metal
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FUCKING LOL
Well in city level, yeah. But chicagoland vs greater golden horseshoe, not quite there, yet.
To be fair, we do have gang wars and plenty of gang activity here in Copenhagen. This year civilians have been in danger just walking some of the most populated streets because of shootings. I think this is the biggest thing "threatening" our safety here though.
Skellig Gra
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Something is off here. Never been to Tokyo so I cant comment on that but a lot of these cities seem way high up. Brussels especially. Amsterdam was the safest feeling place Ive been so its not all wrong.
FrankCanada97
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Out of the cities in this list, which do you feel are ranked too high in comparison to others in the list?
Skellig Gra
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Brussels for sure. Istanbul while not that high still feels way too high. Chicago is another one. Being safer than London seems crazy to me.
FrankCanada97
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I suppose if they weighted the four categories differently, Chicago would fall. London probably has better health and infrastructure security. Maybe in personal security as well, but they don't really explain how they weigh violent crime against terrorism.