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The future is here: Sony 4K TV to cost $25,000
- Thread starter Nibel
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I got to see both Sony's 4K 84" display and their 4k projector at CEDIA Expo in Sept, and I wasn't too impressed. I mean, the 4k-native Skyfall trailer & Sony promo video were nice, but not something I see setting the industry on fire.
Because 1440p doesn't sound like a big enough leap to warrant buying a new TV.
Well then why did 720p to 1080p sell new tv's ?, sounds even less of a leap.
Of course not. This isn't made for most people.
I'm not sure it did. I would be willing to bet that most households have owned one HDTV so far. Some upgraded their CRT's to 720p, some to 1080p. Only a small percentage of people upgraded from 720p to 1080p
Evolution_1ne
Banned
you must not have heard, everything Sony has ever and will ever make is made for the sole purpose of being super mass market selling million of billions of units and having at least 80% market share and if any product fails to meet this even slightly then it's and utter failure that should have never existed in the first place
I know quite a few who bought an 'HD' TV (720p) then a 'full Hd' TV (1080p).
Kung Fu Grip
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You mean 2160p.
Yes, 2160p.
Anyway, CinemaHD is a better name for the new standard than UltraHD. That could have been reserved for 8K.
The Albatross
Member
I think his point is still probably true. My first LCD TV was 27" 720p, and then a few years later, I got a 46" 1080p TV... I didn't get the TV for the sake of upgrading to 1080p (especially because when I got it a few years ago, a lot of broadcasts were still barely 720, and most games were 720), I got it because I wanted another TV and hell, I wasn't going to buy a 720p TV.
The "many tv" household is a lot more common now just over the last 10 years, so while people replaced their primary TV's early on, and they may have been 720, as they've replaced more TVs they're jumping to 1080p as it's really the only thing available.
But that's probably not driven by a desire to upgrade from 720p to 1080p.
Castor Krieg
Banned
What the article sums up nicely:
The moment apps become simpler to install and the experience better people will use more Smart TV features.
I have a Smart TV and never use its online functions. It's way more comfortable using Wii U or a PC connected to the TV than handling with a dumb remote, trying to type words or just navigating through the menus. I'm not sure why companies even bother with Smart TV without including an useful device, something like a wiimote.
flyinpiranha
Member
I used the 360 Netflix and stuff, and since using my Sony BR Player and Vizio Smart TV apps ... I almost never use the media functions of my Xbox anymore. I like the TV and BR apps more than the PS3 and 360 apps. The Vizio is a lot like Apple TV. Plus I like how it's in the side, I can search for stuff on Amazon VoD while watching something on Netflix.
I've had a pretty good experience with Smart TV apps so I must be in the minority on this one. Having a QWERTY keyboard on the bottom of the Vizio remote is really helpful too.
Square scaling. Since almost everything viewed is going to be 1080p anyways (at best), this allows a 1080p picture to be scaled into a 4 pixel square. This is the main reason 4k is better than 2k. It'll treat 1080p much kinder. 2k would result in rectangular pixels.
Big Papa Husker
Member
My local electronics store just got the XBR84x900. It didn't look that much different than current HD. Anyway, I had to take a picture of the tag on it. Gotta love "EXCITING LOW PRICE!" with it being $24,999.99.
MikeE21286
Member
Won't it all matter on the quality of the content it's playing...for which there is no 4k content.
DarkoMaledictus
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DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Plus no content for months / years, internet streaming will be unlikely unless u r rocking fiber optic and download caps make it less than interesting. Seriously not even sure why they would release this now... like Sony really needs to shoot themselves in the foot yet again...
AstroNut325
Member
There were high-def TVs long before high-def content.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Didn't make it smarter back then either...
What? Your typical 2 hour movie on Blu-ray at 1080p occupies around 30-40GB of space. A 4k version of the same movie would be 4x that size at 120-160GB. No idea where you are getting 10TB from...
ScepticMatt
Member
actually less, because compression efficiency increases with higher resolutions
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
I read it here: http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2013-01/ces-2013-4k-years-most-amazing-tech-and-completely-impractical
10TB uncompressed, and lets be honest, if you had the $25k to spend on a TV would you want compressed video
So even at 200GB or 4x the size of a blu-ray full 50GB disc, we still do not currently have a medium for that yet. As the 4 layer discs are still not mainstream and still would be too small.
I agree, I dont really see the point of a 4k TV for movie watching unless you are getting a 70+ or large TV and plan to sit closer to it than 7 feet. Even then maybe in 2-3 years it might be much more cost friendly.
4K is going to drop in price just as rapidly as 3D and 1080p if not even faster. This spring Westinghouse is releasing a 50" 4K TV for $2500 http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/10/3...ollar-custom-110-inch-4k-tv-isnt-for-everyone
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
$2500 is my price point - under $3K. But not from Westinghouse.
Does that mean we think we'll see a 50" 4K from Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, or Samsung by the end of the year for under three grand? If so, I'd probably splurge for it.
My guess is that next year at CES the big thing will be affordable consumer 4K TVs. You might be able to get one this year for under $3k but early next year you definitely will be able to.