The Last of Us 2 - Media Event Dated

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I'm not familiar with Naughty Dog's proprietary engine, but goddamn the results of their pipeline are phenomenal . The presentation of their eventual PS5 title is going to be absolutely bonkers.






This is just insane, notwithstanding that it is actually based on the base PS4 at 1.84TF...…...Shown on PRO with enhanced rez and for better clarity...

Across the games some elements got better while others got worse. A fair trade in most instances but what comes to mind is the infamous Chloe in the bus cinematic lighting change in UC2, and most notably UC4 not matching the initial trailer, in neither frame rate, lighting/material or model density. UC4 received additional shadow and other subtle downgrades from the first gameplay trailer. TLOU also did not achieve the initial trailer or the first scripted gameplay.

Generally, I've noticed other "downgrades" across their titles from subtle lighting and model fidelity changes because they seem to like to crank the engine to max LOD shadows and details for previews and slowly cut back with each showing. But I could say the same for almost all devs, ND just gets closer to their initials in most cases.

I can forgive it somewhat with new engines and beginning of gens but at this point it ticks me off that so many games are still shown off with obviously unachievable detail, lighting, etc. and then downgraded for launch. Devs have mature tools and enough experience this gen to know what is achievable so when they show shit that looks too good to be true it's not cause they naively think it's possible it's because they want to drum up early hype with unrealistic visuals like it's a fucking Big Mac commercial (I'm looking right at you: The Coalition, CDPR, and soon ND). Nintendo is the only one doing it right.

That said, UC4 remains a contender for best and most consistently good graphics of the gen next to RDR2, The Order and AC.
I don't think cinematics are a big issue......I imagine they may have dialed certain things back and increased other aspects just the same...….This is Naughty we're dealing with here......I remember Uncharted series remained "texturezilla" for all of last generation across the three games.....The thing is, in every generation they set the bar, even on lower end hardware in some cases.......I mean Jak 1, 2 and 3 were just nuts relative to technology.........Yet, even Naughty is hamstrung by what the hardware can do, no matter how talented they are........I think next gen is where we will have the least bottlenecks in any generation....I'd love to see what they do with a great CPU, fast SSD and fast Navi GPU...…...If they can do that above with 1.84TF. where I've never seen such visuals from vintage PC devs with ultra settings on 2080ti's even, we can probably conclude they're in a league of their own...….As for this gen, I think we will be blown away......If any team can take the crown from UC4, it's Naughty......
 
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Same people come on every TLOU thread to say the same shit lesbian, murder, SJW, movie. Like cornballs. Probably the most excited tho, probably have those words ready in their clipboards at all times. I worry for the cornflakes when they have male gay characters front and center. Rather then not playing something that makes them internally uncomfortable, they are going to go on every thread commenting about their pain.

I can’t wait 4 what naughty dog makes for PS5. And with insomniac churning out a game every year, it’s gonna b lit.
 

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Same people come on every TLOU thread to say the same shit lesbian, murder, SJW, movie. Like cornballs. Probably the most excited tho, probably have those words ready in their clipboards at all times. I worry for the cornflakes when they have male gay characters front and center. Rather then not playing something that makes them internally uncomfortable, they are going to go on every thread commenting about their pain.

I can’t wait 4 what naughty dog makes for PS5. And with insomniac churning out a game every year, it’s gonna b lit.
Oh I'm excited for TLoU2 I tell ya.
 

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I don't really mind the lesbian stuff, I just wish media wouldn't try to stuff it down our throats. Its like if you want your main character to be a lesbian...then just do it. Don't expect fuckin accolades and shit like that. If the LBGT community wants to find normalcy in the media then stop making a big fuckin deal about every got damn game you get some representation in. Be humble and just enjoy the game.

How the fuck did "woke" come to mean include minorities and all sexual orientations anyway? "Woke" is a slang term of african american origin for those who don't know. It's meant to convey that one is aware of something (usually sinister) that's happening covertly or, in the least, is not common knowledge. Aware...hence the original phrasing "Stay Woke".

People take this shit and twist and warp it to serve their own purposes. Go find your own phrase.
 
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I personally enjoyed original game so I’m kind of looking forward to this.

I don’t mind Ellie being Lesbian or we are playing as her because we knew this from the first game. “SJW” became hot word around here these days, they just throw that word at anything they don’t like.
 
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I am really meh about The Last of Us to be quite frank. I hate to say this but Naughty dog games for the last decade or so have been nothing more than overdone movie simulators with small amount of gameplay that's nowhere near ground breaking or that great.

I am sure the story and visuals will be appraised non stop and that's fine but I much prefer actual games where you have more gameplay than anything else. God of War is a great example of enough cinematic stuf, enough story and fantastic gameplay. Meanwhile, naughty dog is sitting on the over dramatic cut scene after cut scene story telling with a small amounts of gameplay in between.

Honestly, far more excited with what Microsoft is doing next gen. Gears of War 5 is a fantastic example of a complete package with a great campaign, addicting gameplay and a game that still feels like am actual game without over use on the cinematograohy and all that stuff. I am not trying to be a fanboy here but just being honest with how I feel. My games of this generation by the way were Bloodborne and God of War along with Mario Oddyssey and Sea of Thieves. As you can tell from these choices I am much more about more gameplay, less walking, less talking and more actual game.

Am I excited to play Tlou 2? For sure. But for different reasons, probably the technological breakthrough more than anything is why I wanna play that game, but that's it.
 

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I am really meh about The Last of Us to be quite frank. I hate to say this but Naughty dog games for the last decade or so have been nothing more than overdone movie simulators with small amount of gameplay that's nowhere near ground breaking or that great.

I am sure the story and visuals will be appraised non stop and that's fine but I much prefer actual games where you have more gameplay than anything else. God of War is a great example of enough cinematic stuf, enough story and fantastic gameplay. Meanwhile, naughty dog is sitting on the over dramatic cut scene after cut scene story telling with a small amounts of gameplay in between.

Honestly, far more excited with what Microsoft is doing next gen. Gears of War 5 is a fantastic example of a complete package with a great campaign, addicting gameplay and a game that still feels like am actual game without over use on the cinematograohy and all that stuff. I am not trying to be a fanboy here but just being honest with how I feel. My games of this generation by the way were Bloodborne and God of War along with Mario Oddyssey and Sea of Thieves. As you can tell from these choices I am much more about more gameplay, less walking, less talking and more actual game.

Am I excited to play Tlou 2? For sure. But for different reasons, probably the technological breakthrough more than anything is why I wanna play that game, but that's it.
I still consider CTR their best game :D
 

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I am really meh about The Last of Us to be quite frank. I hate to say this but Naughty dog games for the last decade or so have been nothing more than overdone movie simulators with small amount of gameplay that's nowhere near ground breaking or that great.
This is such BS. Every major ND game over the last 10 years has contained a substantial multiplayer component built out from the main campaigns combat mechanics.

This proves unequivocally that the gameplay is there, even if the ratio of sustained action sequences to storytelling/cinematics is not to everyone's taste.
 
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This is such BS. Every major ND game over the last 10 years has contained a substantial multiplayer component built out from the main campaigns combat mechanics.

This proves unequivocally that the gameplay is there, even if the ratio of sustained action sequences to storytelling/cinematics is not to everyone's taste.
The multiplayer is nothing special in either of those titles and you know it. Naughty Dog was never really known for gameplay, rather visuals and storytelling is their best thing.

Also last 10 years of ND have been practically the same. Uncharted 1 to 4 is basically the same game and feels like a movie sequel after movie sequel only with better tech every time and barely any nee gameplay innovations. No thanks.
 
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The multiplayer is nothing special in either of those titles and you know it. Naughty Dog was never really known for gameplay, rather visuals and storytelling is their best thing.

Also last 10 years of ND have been practically the same. Uncharted 1 to 4 is basically the same game and feels like a movie sequel after movie sequel only with better tech every time and barely any nee gameplay innovations. No thanks.
MP in the first tlou were great

You shouldve tried it out
 

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I was expecting a trailer for Outbreak day but this event is on another level. I want to see if the press reception is better/worse than Cyberpunk's E3 demo.
 

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The multiplayer is nothing special in either of those titles and you know it. Naughty Dog was never really known for gameplay, rather visuals and storytelling is their best thing.

Also last 10 years of ND have been practically the same. Uncharted 1 to 4 is basically the same game and feels like a movie sequel after movie sequel only with better tech every time and barely any nee gameplay innovations. No thanks.
Seriously though, who's games have "transformed" since 2009 as opposed to making incremental improvements to an established formula?

See the thing that bugs me, isn't the criticism of ND in itself, its just that they specifically aren't exactly outliers in terms of approach. I mean are ND somehow specifically more guilty of this than every other studio with a couple of big successful franchises? And quite honestly, how often do we get backlash from fans when a developer decides to shake up a winning formula?
 

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This is such BS. Every major ND game over the last 10 years has contained a substantial multiplayer component built out from the main campaigns combat mechanics.

This proves unequivocally that the gameplay is there, even if the ratio of sustained action sequences to storytelling/cinematics is not to everyone's taste.
These dudes are bots talking fanboy bs. The fact of the matter is Naughty Dog games like Uncharted have so much more engaging gameplay than some of the new games coming out. It's not just run, bounce off walls, shoot and rinse there's actually a good transversal component that makes it so much more dynamic and fun. Idk wtf ppl be talking about and thy must be bored to death playing their favorite tps games that don't offer much. Fucking play shit like Gears I cant even climb or jump over a wall that is a little bit higher than the normal vault able Walls in mp and I'm like wtf🤔.
 
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The multiplayer is nothing special in either of those titles and you know it. Naughty Dog was never really known for gameplay, rather visuals and storytelling is their best thing.

Also last 10 years of ND have been practically the same. Uncharted 1 to 4 is basically the same game and feels like a movie sequel after movie sequel only with better tech every time and barely any nee gameplay innovations. No thanks.
The uncharted mp with its transversal component shits on most tps mp games out there. It isn't some run, hide, bounce off wall shotgun fest lol like a popular game I can mention. Tlo
Tlou mp was sublime idk wtf you are going on about but part of Naughty Dog high metas and reviews are due to not only its awesome campaigns but very good mp aspects. I mean reviewers always me tuin it 😏
 
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I personally didn't enjoy the first one that much. I thought the gunplay wasn't that great. Didn't like the crafting mechanics or stealth mechanics much either. And I'm not really that into video game stories anymore. I kind of played it late though too, so my standards are slightly higher. But it was good enough for me to finish and am still looking forward to the sequel.
 
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I'm very excited for this game as I'm a huge fan of the first one, but is anyone else a little disappointed that this basically confirms PSX isn't coming back this year?
 

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I'm very excited for this game as I'm a huge fan of the first one, but is anyone else a little disappointed that this basically confirms PSX isn't coming back this year?
Not really. If anything it reaffirms the suspicion that Sony are planning something for a PS5 reveal. Besides, what else would they even have to showcase by then? Death Stranding is out in early November, so that leaves Ghost of Tsushima and what would've been TLOU Part II. Then you have VGA's around the same time as well, which will have its fair share of new trailers and announcements.
 

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There's no doubt in my mind that this game, along with Ghost of Tsushima will eventually make their way to
the Playstation 5 as "enhanced" ports. I most certainly would welcome that!

Now, I really have to finish up the first "Last of Us". Don't pile on me bros! :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

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What in the shit happened in here? Why were you all so mad at each-other back there?
Save all that hate for the Stadia fanboys...
 

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The multiplayer is nothing special in either of those titles and you know it. Naughty Dog was never really known for gameplay, rather visuals and storytelling is their best thing.

Also last 10 years of ND have been practically the same. Uncharted 1 to 4 is basically the same game and feels like a movie sequel after movie sequel only with better tech every time and barely any nee gameplay innovations. No thanks.
I'm currently playing Gears 5. I would say the combat is less entertaining than The Last of Us and Uncharted 4.


I just generally take cover and take out enemies.

I can do the exact same thing in The Last of US and Uncharted 4, but the hand-to-hand combat and stealth mechanics makes the combat feel better.


They added better stealth mechanics in the Last of Us 2 and the melee combat seems to be much better, along with the ability to hide under objects (cars). Not only that, there's a dodge mechanic and the physics makes the melee combat seem far more realistic.

So yes, I don't just want to shoot clickers in the Last of Us, I also want to punch the crap out of them or hit with crowbar just to knock their head off. Melee combat is great for a grounded game.
 

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I'm currently playing Gears 5. I would say the combat is less entertaining than The Last of Us and Uncharted 4.


I just generally take cover and take out enemies.

I can do the exact same thing in The Last of US and Uncharted 4, but the hand-to-hand combat and stealth mechanics makes the combat feel better.


They added better stealth mechanics in the Last of Us 2 and the melee combat seems to be much better, along with the ability to hide under objects (cars). Not only that, there's a dodge mechanic and the physics makes the melee combat seem far more realistic.

So yes, I don't just want to shoot clickers in the Last of Us, I also want to punch the crap out of them or hit with crowbar just to knock their head off. Melee combat is great for a grounded game.
Also Uncharted is deeper, more dynamic because of traversal, deeper climbing, zipping along lines, etc. Gears is static asf and very generic and limited. Shit is basically run slanted like a drunk (worst shit imo), take cover and shoot. I was playing mp and a few short walls you can vault over but some walls a little higher you cant🤔 thts corny. Gears can never compare to Uncharted in gameplay. Combat overall and its animations are also on another level in Uncharted. Ppl talk about Gears being higher fps but don't talk about its static ass gameplay and copying more open level designs tht are empty and nowhere as good as UC or God of War who thy copied.
 
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I'm currently playing Gears 5. I would say the combat is less entertaining than The Last of Us and Uncharted 4.


I just generally take cover and take out enemies.

I can do the exact same thing in The Last of US and Uncharted 4, but the hand-to-hand combat and stealth mechanics makes the combat feel better.


They added better stealth mechanics in the Last of Us 2 and the melee combat seems to be much better, along with the ability to hide under objects (cars). Not only that, there's a dodge mechanic and the physics makes the melee combat seem far more realistic.

So yes, I don't just want to shoot clickers in the Last of Us, I also want to punch the crap out of them or hit with crowbar just to knock their head off. Melee combat is great for a grounded game.
See for more its completely the opposite. I am addicted to gears. The blood, the colors and the sounds and visceral combat in gears just feels extremely satisfying to me. The last of Us melee feels good too, I would say it's more grounded and realistic gore rather than Gears , but you see I am the type of a guy that's not into super realism, I prefer more fantasy or unrealistic things in my vidso games. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the hell out of Tlou story and multiplayer in it's own right, but if I had to pick one or the other and I could have one it would be Gears in this case. Again, what I am saying is not right or wrong it's simply just my preference and opinion. I have huge respect for Naughty Dog and the team, they do amazing work in the industry absolutely. This is me being a nitpicker.