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News Trailer The Last of Us 2 Releasing On February 21st, 2020 | New Trailer

DeepEnigma

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I'm curious to see the first generation-jet engine PS4 version look like. Hopefully the difference will only be in 4K resolution.
That’s pretty much how the difference has been with all first party titles so far.
 

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I did. That video was staged. If you want to believe it was live gameplay it's all good man, I'm not here to be a downer. But it was totally staged.
You have no proof. Until you can actually confirm it, don't say it is stage.
 

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Ok

It really doesn't.

I know. I played the DLC. It's not in the main game. Maybe some people didn't play the dlc. I felt that the dlc enriched the character.

I never asked or even hinted that. I feel that the first game developed her character way better, and the dlc gave us even more info. Right now, all the trailers are just showing us that she is gay, her motivations are being gay, her hobby is being gay and she will embark on a revenge rampage because of the gayness in her life.
It's just poor writing. Or, worse yet, they made a complex and rich character, flat.
Or maybe it's just a trailer. If you already played the full game, and then say its poor writing, that's a different story.
 
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Exact animation..

I'm curious to know if Ellie can take an arrow to the head, back, front or leg. I imagine it being very repetitive only pulling arrows out of the shoulder.
 
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Also, it looks to me that there are now four types of enemies.

- Infected
- Seraphites
- Unknown paramilitary group (maybe Fireflies or FEDRA?)
- Bandits
 
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Naughty Dogs are tops in the industry when it comes to animation and overall production. I'm expecting TLOU 2 to be polished to an unbelievable degree. It will play smooth as butter. But that E3 clip was 100% not actual gameplay, I bet my left nut on that.
Many aspects of it really look amazing, but the muddy snow and especially those horses somehow look off.

(I borrowed that from another post)

Character models and animation is top notch, I can't wait to play it... ND and Santa Monica games are the only ones I pre-order. Man TWO blu-ray disks!
 
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Exact animation..

I'm curious to know if Ellie can take an arrow to the head, back, front or leg. I imagine it being very repetitive only pulling arrows out of the shoulder.
I would love see if Ellie can take an arrow in the knee.
 
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Lionel Richie

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You have no proof. Until you can actually confirm it, don't say it is stage.
I have no proof, I'm not FORMALLY accusing them of anything. But it was fake man, it was scripted. There's no way those enemy reactions weren't staged. The game will probably be an all-timer, but let's not blind ourselves here.
 
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Exact animation..

I'm curious to know if Ellie can take an arrow to the head, back, front or leg. I imagine it being very repetitive only pulling arrows out of the shoulder.
Agreed. Would love to have an arrow pulled from the knee animation.
 

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I have no proof, I'm not FORMALLY accusing them of anything. But it was fake man, it was scripted. There's no way those enemy reactions weren't staged. The game will probably be an all-timer, but let's not blind ourselves here.
Technically most story based games are scripted. Not sure what you're getting at,
 

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I have no proof, I'm not FORMALLY accusing them of anything. But it was fake man, it was scripted. There's no way those enemy reactions weren't staged. The game will probably be an all-timer, but let's not blind ourselves here.
It's not about being blind, it's about something you don't know and that you could be wrong.

There was an in-depth video about the first gameplay trailer and how some of those enemy reactions were real and others being mostly undetermined.

Points that were undermentioned was when the enemy looked under the car and Ellie shot her in the face.

Another is the AI peaking looking for you in the beauty shop. The guy explained how detailed the AI was, but then he said the same animation plays when the enemy turns the corner.

Ellie Grabbing the bottle and throwing it at the enemy shows the bottle warping into Ellie's hand, something that wouldn't happen with scripted gameplay.

People have seen the video and it's still up int he air because there's some stuff we don't know.

So no one is going in blind.

EDIT:

Here's the video.

 
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Points that were undermentioned was when the enemy looked under the car and Ellie shot her in the face.
Could just be an event trigger based on where the player goes:

If player goes under car --> trigger script --> else do something

Either way, scripts exist in all games. I'm not exactly sure what point Lionel Richie is trying to make. Is he implying that the game will not play or look like this?
 
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Lionel Richie

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Technically most story based games are scripted. Not sure what you're getting at,
That the gameplay they showed at E3 wasn't actually gameplay, it was fake. It was scripted. It doesn't happen in game. Enemies won't behave like that, your character won't behave like that, it's not how the game plays. It's like a cutscene, but presented as gameplay.

It's my theory at least. It felt too perfect to be real. Maybe they'll surprise me.

It's not about being blind, it's about something you don't know and that you could be wrong.

There was an in-depth video about the first gameplay trailer and how some of those enemy reactions were real and others being mostly undetermined.

Points that were undermentioned was when the enemy looked under the car and Ellie shot her in the face.

Another is the AI peaking looking for you in the beauty shop. The guy explained how detailed the AI was, but then he said the same animation plays when the enemy turns the corner.

Ellie Grabbing the bottle and throwing it at the enemy shows the bottle warping into Ellie's hand, something that wouldn't happen with scripted gameplay.

People have seen the video and it's still up int he air because there's some stuff we don't know.

So no one is going in blind.

EDIT:

Here's the video.

Fair enough man, I don't want to derail the thread with this and maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place. It's not the right thread to bring it up and I'm happy the game is coming out soon. Playing the first one was one of my favorite experiences in the PS3 so I'm really looking forward to the sequel. Let's just agree there's a possibility it was scripted lol and we'll see when the game comes out if it was real and if it wasn't, just how far from the real deal it was. Not a long time to go luckily :)
 

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That the gameplay they showed at E3 wasn't actually gameplay, it was fake. It was scripted. It doesn't happen in game. Enemies won't behave like that, your character won't behave like that, it's not how the game plays. It's like a cutscene, but presented as gameplay.

It's my theory at least. It felt too perfect to be real. Maybe they'll surprise me.



Fair enough man, I don't want to derail the thread with this and maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place. It's not the right thread to bring it up and I'm happy the game is coming out soon. Playing the first one was one of my favorite experiences in the PS3 so I'm really looking forward to the sequel. Let's just agree there's a possibility it was scripted lol and we'll see when the game comes out if it was real and if it wasn't, just how far from the real deal it was. Not a long time to go luckily :)
Previews go live on Thursday. We'll know by then. :)
 
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Finally a look Joel! Hopefully he is a big part of the story and isn't just relegated to some side role.

Visually it looks great and those glimpses of the action looked good, as someone who actually really liked the gameplay in the original I hope the pacing is good and it's not another Uncharted 4.

I still worry about the story though, and how far Druckmann will take the wokeness.
 
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In before "It looks downgraded"
Are you saying that cause you saw the downgrade?

Game still looks good though.
Hmmmm.... there seem to be fewer puddles than I remembered from the original presentation. :pie_thinking:


Downgrade confirmed!
I just came back from the future with hard evidence!

 

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What makes you think other people in her camp know she is immune? Why would she advertise that? She's already a young female in a post apocalyptic setting; no need to put a bigger target on herself. The fact that she is wearing a gas mask in one scene proves this may well be the case.



This is Ellie, not Big Boss :p
You're probably right that they are keeping it a secret. That was just one of my issues with this premise.
 

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Ok

It really doesn't.

I know. I played the DLC. It's not in the main game. Maybe some people didn't play the dlc. I felt that the dlc enriched the character.

I never asked or even hinted that. I feel that the first game developed her character way better, and the dlc gave us even more info. Right now, all the trailers are just showing us that she is gay, her motivations are being gay, her hobby is being gay and she will embark on a revenge rampage because of the gayness in her life.
It's just poor writing. Or, worse yet, they made a complex and rich character, flat.
They’ve shown she has a love interest, that she is in conflict with some sort of cult, that there is some inciting incident to send her on the path of revenge, that there are other central characters (woman with the axe) whose role we don’t know yet, and we don’t know what role Joe will play yet. For all we know so far, her gay lover is purely incidental and won’t play any role in the larger arc

I’m guessing you’re just really honed in on the element that triggered you 🤷‍♂️
 
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They’ve shown she has a love interest, that she is in conflict with some sort of cult, that there is some inciting incident to send her on the path of revenge, that there are other central characters (woman with the axe) whose role we don’t know yet, and we don’t know what role Joe will play yet. For all we know so far, her gay lover is purely incidental and won’t play any role in the larger arc

I’m guessing you’re just really honed in on the element that triggered you 🤷‍♂️
Has Naughty Dog ever given away the entire plot in trailers?

Not that I can recall. People always think they have it all figured out. We even went through this with UC4.
 

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Has Naughty Dog ever given away the entire plot in trailers?

Not that I can recall. People always think they have it all figured out. We even went through this with UC4.
I think Ellie kicked Joel out of her life when the truth surfaced so part of the story will revolve around them reconciling.
 

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TLOU MP was one of my most played MP on PS3.

I just can't wait thisgame.
 

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That the gameplay they showed at E3 wasn't actually gameplay, it was fake. It was scripted. It doesn't happen in game. Enemies won't behave like that, your character won't behave like that, it's not how the game plays. It's like a cutscene, but presented as gameplay.

It's my theory at least. It felt too perfect to be real.
You are Correct . And its not the first time they do it.

 
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bitbydeath

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You are Correct . And its not the first time they do it.

I watched the first two minutes and a lot of what they said is incorrect.

Reactive enemies taking different approaches based on what you do and what you’re carrying is in the game and has been since day one.
 

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I feel bad judging you for how you spend your money but...not having to switch discs, which requires a minimum of effort, is worth $30 extra to you? That's fuckin mental.
When you put it like that lol.

But on a side note, a lot of pre order and game sales go to EB Games here in Australia where people still pay the price of $99.95 for a physical copy rather than going to our massive JB Hi-Fi franchise and getting it for $69. This is because they are loyal to EB being a dedicated games store. That's probably as mental.
 

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At least here u can criticise but on era u get banned if u not showing crazy excitement.
Not to derail the thread, but Era's mods really are the worst. I got banned a while back for writting something like, "Let us not judge him before we have any evidence." Apparently that is victim blaming.
 

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Those of you being concerned about a downgrade should watch the trailer in 4K. It makes a world of difference.
Yeah, their aint no downgrade as far as I can see either. Sometimes I think people watching at potato quality through youtube on their phones. For some reason youtube vids on my phone always starts playing at 480p and then I have to manually select 1440p.
 

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Honestly not blown away by any part of that trailer. Seems like it's ND's first open world game. Seems like Red Dead Redemption 2, only with better controls.

The story doesn't grab me really. I'm not into the characters, and don't care about Ellie or Joel.

If it actually plays well, and you can not get too bogged down by pretentious SJW story beats, then I'd be down for roaming an open world and stealth killing people. That's about my only interest in it so far.
 

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Honestly not blown away by any part of that trailer. Seems like it's ND's first open world game. Seems like Red Dead Redemption 2, only with better controls.

The story doesn't grab me really. I'm not into the characters, and don't care about Ellie or Joel.

If it actually plays well, and you can not get too bogged down by pretentious SJW story beats, then I'd be down for roaming an open world and stealth killing people. That's about my only interest in it so far.
 
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