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The Last of Us Part II - Review Thread - *NO. SPOILERS. PERIOD.*

What will TLOU 2 average score be?


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Roufianos

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Posted in the OT but here is where it belongs
I like his reviews so I've been waiting on his opinion, no spoilers
Why is it that people like Jeremy, Alanah Pearce, Angry Joe, Karak and Chris Ray Gun all seem to have mixed impressions on it but the mainstream media universally loved it?

And no, I haven't got a hate boner for the game. Just genuinely curious.
 

Hobbygaming

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Why is it that people like Jeremy, Alanah Pearce, Angry Joe, Karak and Chris Ray Gun all seem to have mixed impressions on it but the mainstream media universally loved it?

And no, I haven't got a hate boner for the game. Just genuinely curious.
Not everyone will like every game

I happen to think it's better than God of War but I understand that not everyone shares my opinion
 

AV

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Why is it that people like Jeremy, Alanah Pearce, Angry Joe, Karak and Chris Ray Gun all seem to have mixed impressions on it but the mainstream media universally loved it?

And no, I haven't got a hate boner for the game. Just genuinely curious.
They're all (AFAIK) Youtubers that don't answer to a publication. Probably has something to do with it.
 
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Why is it that people like Jeremy, Alanah Pearce, Angry Joe, Karak and Chris Ray Gun all seem to have mixed impressions on it but the mainstream media universally loved it?

And no, I haven't got a hate boner for the game. Just genuinely curious.
I like some of Chris ray guns videos but none of those people are people I watch for their opinions on video games if I watch them at all. this has nothing to do with disagreeing with their point of view I just think that they don't have much depth of thought there are plenty of game critics on YouTube I think are great that don't necessarily agree with me on everything or even anything. I was just watching first a 3-hour analysis of why fallout 3 is bad and then an hour and a half one defending it. Both were way more interesting than the typical review. in fact I'd argue in general it takes a long time for a game to get proper analysis.
 

DarkBatman

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Why is it that people like Jeremy, Alanah Pearce, Angry Joe, Karak and Chris Ray Gun all seem to have mixed impressions on it but the mainstream media universally loved it?

And no, I haven't got a hate boner for the game. Just genuinely curious.
Well, it's impossible to answer this question for sure, but I'll try with an example.

In Germany we got a gaming channel called Rocket Beans TV - you could compare them to Easy Allies.
I tend to trust them when it comes to reviews, because they were pretty harsh to some popular movies & games in the past.

They loved THE LAST OF US PART II.
But when I saw their review talk, it seemed like they understood why many gamers will be unhappy with it, criticise several plot points and deem it a disappointment because of that.

I think those 10/10 journalists managed to put of the "I want the game to be more of the first part" glasses and just analysed the game they got in a fair way - and came to the conclusion, that they loved it, even though Naughty Dog went another direction and abandoned some beloved elements from the first part.

If you look at some streamers, they quickly get too emotional, share their memories of playing the first part and talk about their deep love for Joel and Ellie.
I saw the same thing happening with the leaks: I don't like 2-3 things I saw out of context, so now I hate the game, won't play it, but mock it on the Internet.
 

Bartski

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Well, it's impossible to answer this question for sure, but I'll try with an example.

In Germany we got a gaming channel called Rocket Beans TV - you could compare them to Easy Allies.
I tend to trust them when it comes to reviews, because they were pretty harsh to some popular movies & games in the past.

They loved THE LAST OF US PART II.
But when I saw their review talk, it seemed like they understood why many gamers will be unhappy with it, criticise several plot points and deem it a disappointment because of that.

I think those 10/10 journalists managed to put of the "I want the game to be more of the first part" glasses and just analysed the game they got in a fair way - and came to the conclusion, that they loved it, even though Naughty Dog went another direction and abandoned some beloved elements from the first part.

If you look at some streamers, they quickly get too emotional, share their memories of playing the first part and talk about their deep love for Joel and Ellie.
I saw the same thing happening with the leaks: I don't like 2-3 things I saw out of context, so now I hate the game, won't play it, but mock it on the Internet.

There is something that amazes me about this whole situation and the first thing I did when I beat the game, was spending half a day on youtube checking out what's behind some of the worst looking thumbnails I could find on the subject. And while some of it was pure hate boner feeding tsunami of bullshit that started off with...
JOEL GETS KILLED BY A TRANNY WITH A GOLF CLUB
...and similar headlines, I have seen quite a lot of reasonable, well-articulated criticism of the game which I respect. Some of which here on GAF. And while I feel I have a good understanding of it, it still has absolutely no influence on my own impressions of the game which are overwhelmingly positive. But can't help being curious, as getting acquainted with such opinions is something I find way more interesting than sitting in an echo chamber, so I started digging deeper.

Among those editorials taking a piss at the game and Cuckmann's absolute failure in making the biggest release on PlayStation ever, there were numerous montages of big-name game streamers with their far from positive reactions while playing.

It all kind of reminds me of my ex girlfriend. When we were watching movies, she kept on swiping facebook and later complaining that the plot didn't make any sense.

Don't get me wrong, streaming is great fun. I irregularly do it myself and for some reason, there is a handful of people I know that tune in.
It's great for replays, skill-oriented games, competitive games, e-sports, challenge runs, speed runs, any kind of vs or co-op, cutting through Chalice Dungeons PvE in Bloodborne... I get it, it's a valuable social component of the gaming spectrum. It's so much fun.

But here... I mean, is it really worth it?

How can anyone possibly enjoy playing a game like TLOU2 for the first time while constantly dividing attention between actually playing the game and reading the chat? Especially during cutscenes, perfect moment to catch up. Then there is the pressure of entertaining the viewer which for according to the How-To-Make-It-Happen-On-Twitch-101 manual is best released in the form of making constant Cpt. Obvious type of comments on what everybody is seeing on screen and making jokes about it...

See I love gaming, and if a game like this comes out (up next Ghost of Tsushima) its - headphones on, shutters down, coffie, dual shock me and the game and I'm out for 2 days.

I think the only worse way to experience a story-driven single-player immersive action-adventure game for myself than playing it that way, would be watching it with somebody's mug plastered on the screen talking over the action. To me, it's just batshit crazy, how detrimental it is to the whole experience, especially to anyone as a player.

Old man yells at the cloud, maybe, but it's just hard for me to find a reason to pay attention to an opinion formulated while experiencing a game like TLOU2 in such an environment.

Just my 2 cents.
 

MrS

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Why is it that people like Jeremy, Alanah Pearce, Angry Joe, Karak and Chris Ray Gun all seem to have mixed impressions on it but the mainstream media universally loved it?

And no, I haven't got a hate boner for the game. Just genuinely curious.
Ray Gun is an Xbox devout. Loves Halo even though it's shit now. Even went as far as to say the last Sony show was bad. Guy is a fucking fool.
 

Dontero

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Since other thread got locked i will post it here then:

107 thousand people gave their reviews. Average of that is 5.0

 
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evanft

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There is something that amazes me about this whole situation and the first thing I did when I beat the game, was spending half a day on youtube checking out what's behind some of the worst looking thumbnails I could find on the subject. And while some of it was pure hate boner feeding tsunami of bullshit that started off with...
JOEL GETS KILLED BY A TRANNY WITH A GOLF CLUB
...and similar headlines, I have seen quite a lot of reasonable, well-articulated criticism of the game which I respect. Some of which here on GAF. And while I feel I have a good understanding of it, it still has absolutely no influence on my own impressions of the game which are overwhelmingly positive. But can't help being curious, as getting acquainted with such opinions is something I find way more interesting than sitting in an echo chamber, so I started digging deeper.

Among those editorials taking a piss at the game and Cuckmann's absolute failure in making the biggest release on PlayStation ever, there were numerous montages of big-name game streamers with their far from positive reactions while playing.

It all kind of reminds me of my ex girlfriend. When we were watching movies, she kept on swiping facebook and later complaining that the plot didn't make any sense.

Don't get me wrong, streaming is great fun. I irregularly do it myself and for some reason, there is a handful of people I know that tune in.
It's great for replays, skill-oriented games, competitive games, e-sports, challenge runs, speed runs, any kind of vs or co-op, cutting through Chalice Dungeons PvE in Bloodborne... I get it, it's a valuable social component of the gaming spectrum. It's so much fun.

But here... I mean, is it really worth it?

How can anyone possibly enjoy playing a game like TLOU2 for the first time while constantly dividing attention between actually playing the game and reading the chat? Especially during cutscenes, perfect moment to catch up. Then there is the pressure of entertaining the viewer which for according to the How-To-Make-It-Happen-On-Twitch-101 manual is best released in the form of making constant Cpt. Obvious type of comments on what everybody is seeing on screen and making jokes about it...

See I love gaming, and if a game like this comes out (up next Ghost of Tsushima) its - headphones on, shutters down, coffie, dual shock me and the game and I'm out for 2 days.

I think the only worse way to experience a story-driven single-player immersive action-adventure game for myself than playing it that way, would be watching it with somebody's mug plastered on the screen talking over the action. To me, it's just batshit crazy, how detrimental it is to the whole experience, especially to anyone as a player.

Old man yells at the cloud, maybe, but it's just hard for me to find a reason to pay attention to an opinion formulated while experiencing a game like TLOU2 in such an environment.

Just my 2 cents.
Streamers are a cancer on the gaming industry.
 
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bakedpony

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User score in metacritic is now at 5.3. Looks like those that actually played the game are submitting scores
 

gow3isben

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User score in metacritic is now at 5.3. Looks like those that actually played the game are submitting scores
No. There are people who are trying to counter the haters by making repeat accounts and posting 10s. The number of review scores is over 5 times the previous game. It is going to even out at 6ish.