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'The Last of Us: Remastered' coming to PS4, July 2014, [1080p, targeting 60 fps]

DieH@rd

Banned
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This shot isn't in the e3 trailer, i just checked. The website must've gotten some exclusive screens. This is the closest match from the trailer.

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Looks great.
 

Lacix

Member
hmm i traced the image and found this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=https://addleaf.com/articles/53b271b21d4afeb9448b4569&prev=/search%3Ftbs%3Dsbi:AMhZZit6WlxJyJL9I0FmWzoFLSqgiB_1PQT-ZD37P9jtqNmv7ZF4Ewy_1SyWwNgwbi-Sq1tBme1SNiyy21FB-H3ZFaQIC5zKDEcz1p4hK16hWLgj74vH_1-8ZYUpYUOyoxbb0LWHhVDqs5fJkw0EF97KnpV-sZQgdgdnSLVnPjVv9K1K4lccO4Ipm-V758JQJwU5BPML28mjd_12gp48YKhQU8wMb515BirMTbdAUBTyMMI8_1XdVj4-pNwWcKl2E3zkbP8QkgPXtIuVx8GEM_1t3ZYaG-zssIxulv0mQHWz3_1v8_10WwEY2_1aZDrJiyBTW_17e6BVHLwqrPS32F9j07gTsLmUiwKT2AX4yjKJrmq-b8NNYjc1y7NLa_1DFdCv37MbDeaMwVsoV4mnxkiZKYuZVK4Tj2d-fs8J1rR7odRTPsVd1EXhfteM1J24sV3A2Gl4TTEE27tEOjlUjzaMk3EKxbWK6MLrIQcFNImDUWLTisBjfFsR9i04SQgIB2uQySSeNVkFSWHkFSXotRr45dBJJOX1PhQ0ZJc6Xm9B0I2ysqWUdoRANcVJeaHwB6zRZ68G_1Jb6xgpVaXATbv6jp6d0I4olVZrOeZkZfOO3Wf3Vu6gJSD2hOx8FHJ8pMfTbR5wcYphqi5Ge9LymHfGp5-RD20a9H_1FDdXYBnMyf_1delViTl5BUFOwW7r3ORpRYea3w9hzpa3y63Hc8rOZcwQcXuVKxgDGByhYdUZsuStYU2TbPGR20k-F79YCX4CtsAMOMEoDZJmRC0Odb4bqrn_1u4zWFV1_1ebSfwEO_1is3DcGXSQOkYLpxcdivBKzBTcL-10YIcLPmti28bVVb3m6EIoOjRMji_1qDcWHuuPEwsMPaCsp7pSpUN8PGuJk9BKeh4-bzaterCxazTn0XtGjUJR4o6x2osUSwtZQqlzIMuA5XbATHT34H0Tb7Dg-t77ybXMNz8NzYp-wRsOiX1ofrO9uaUszXBzGcnjiZJWqTceUfhM-y-xuuuzX5i6hF9g8aHcnS5-4VRr59qYK8UaO0itkCqvQ5qng5zS2Le8PVN_1RpyQu1gHCsj-9bNGjoPZWWf-UYE6pA1burjT3fm28OSB15U5tI3GoFs-qI3Qis4NehuDz1y5PMg5g5fxkkXG5iL9Uk6XDEbVX0tYWllBpBUVy48w_1D-X-4jpTnU7Y7hVMlCKrGPpKSuZamXysee1xcLPRPYorwYdGnf8UzuR5Uuyh61COrEQox6AXGHM7aSADvPuQyrklK9Y3TPqavXaTOcC_12fcZYEHchp6DoAiVT7JPFrRJ956czPlziqV1cee3gadxRJgjqjVLeRyG6EG1SQ44sEQ5H9Y-q8gGteSczt4SksFV_1wNyMrHFZzc3U9LFDrrOj-ubVS8jmYJDnWU3eUeTOFkXIUHOnlQ_12a2c6UgvLikF0klSdCWdeGXQn5g
Edit: this is a gameplay shot btw.

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No character shadows in multiplayer ? :-(
(I can live with that (60 fps + multiplayer) if it is present in single player)
 

Shredderi

Member
Damn that Joel's model looks good. You can see all the little details on his skin. Looks so clear. The screens are looking good so hopefully they'll release even more eyecandy for all of us :)
 

Vashetti

Banned
hmm i traced the image and found this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=https://addleaf.com/articles/53b271b21d4afeb9448b4569&prev=/search%3Ftbs%3Dsbi:AMhZZit6WlxJyJL9I0FmWzoFLSqgiB_1PQT-ZD37P9jtqNmv7ZF4Ewy_1SyWwNgwbi-Sq1tBme1SNiyy21FB-H3ZFaQIC5zKDEcz1p4hK16hWLgj74vH_1-8ZYUpYUOyoxbb0LWHhVDqs5fJkw0EF97KnpV-sZQgdgdnSLVnPjVv9K1K4lccO4Ipm-V758JQJwU5BPML28mjd_12gp48YKhQU8wMb515BirMTbdAUBTyMMI8_1XdVj4-pNwWcKl2E3zkbP8QkgPXtIuVx8GEM_1t3ZYaG-zssIxulv0mQHWz3_1v8_10WwEY2_1aZDrJiyBTW_17e6BVHLwqrPS32F9j07gTsLmUiwKT2AX4yjKJrmq-b8NNYjc1y7NLa_1DFdCv37MbDeaMwVsoV4mnxkiZKYuZVK4Tj2d-fs8J1rR7odRTPsVd1EXhfteM1J24sV3A2Gl4TTEE27tEOjlUjzaMk3EKxbWK6MLrIQcFNImDUWLTisBjfFsR9i04SQgIB2uQySSeNVkFSWHkFSXotRr45dBJJOX1PhQ0ZJc6Xm9B0I2ysqWUdoRANcVJeaHwB6zRZ68G_1Jb6xgpVaXATbv6jp6d0I4olVZrOeZkZfOO3Wf3Vu6gJSD2hOx8FHJ8pMfTbR5wcYphqi5Ge9LymHfGp5-RD20a9H_1FDdXYBnMyf_1delViTl5BUFOwW7r3ORpRYea3w9hzpa3y63Hc8rOZcwQcXuVKxgDGByhYdUZsuStYU2TbPGR20k-F79YCX4CtsAMOMEoDZJmRC0Odb4bqrn_1u4zWFV1_1ebSfwEO_1is3DcGXSQOkYLpxcdivBKzBTcL-10YIcLPmti28bVVb3m6EIoOjRMji_1qDcWHuuPEwsMPaCsp7pSpUN8PGuJk9BKeh4-bzaterCxazTn0XtGjUJR4o6x2osUSwtZQqlzIMuA5XbATHT34H0Tb7Dg-t77ybXMNz8NzYp-wRsOiX1ofrO9uaUszXBzGcnjiZJWqTceUfhM-y-xuuuzX5i6hF9g8aHcnS5-4VRr59qYK8UaO0itkCqvQ5qng5zS2Le8PVN_1RpyQu1gHCsj-9bNGjoPZWWf-UYE6pA1burjT3fm28OSB15U5tI3GoFs-qI3Qis4NehuDz1y5PMg5g5fxkkXG5iL9Uk6XDEbVX0tYWllBpBUVy48w_1D-X-4jpTnU7Y7hVMlCKrGPpKSuZamXysee1xcLPRPYorwYdGnf8UzuR5Uuyh61COrEQox6AXGHM7aSADvPuQyrklK9Y3TPqavXaTOcC_12fcZYEHchp6DoAiVT7JPFrRJ956czPlziqV1cee3gadxRJgjqjVLeRyG6EG1SQ44sEQ5H9Y-q8gGteSczt4SksFV_1wNyMrHFZzc3U9LFDrrOj-ubVS8jmYJDnWU3eUeTOFkXIUHOnlQ_12a2c6UgvLikF0klSdCWdeGXQn5g
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Edit: this is a gameplay shot btw.

His face looks insanely good, his clothing looks a little on the low-res size though.
 

Man

Member
720p @30hz vs 1080p @60hz (and more precise controller)... PS4 owners would slaughter PS3 players if it was cross-platform.
 

Anung

Un Rama
I didn't expect or want cross play. Wouldn't work with different framerates and only a small portion of the PS3 community would actually be able to partake with all the DLC playlists.
 

WITHE1982

Member
So those of us who didn't play the Ps3 version are going to immediately be put against max veterans who already have dozens of hours in the mutiplayer. I don't see this as a good thing. I thought it would be a fresh start for everyone besides playtime experience already gained.

Is the matchmaking for new players good at least?

Not really. They apparently use an algorithm to try and even out the teams but it never works. I've had countless matches playing with three <level 10 players against 4 guys who are north of level 200. Sufficed to say be got completely destroyed.

Hopefully they'll look into this when the remastered version launches as It will put a lot of new players off. I'm around level 80 and still get my ass handed to me quite regularly in the MP.

My advice for new PS4 owners is to avoid the newer DLC maps (abandoned territories and reclaimed territories) and if playing solo use the "no parties mode". It will still be pretty tough for them though.
 

Poetazer

Neo Member
Hey All

Regarding the 60 vs 30fps Multiplayer

Don't see anybody clearing this up..

The framerate does not make the experiences incompatible. It is just a fluidity. Last of Us Remastered will be using EXACTLY the same server sync settings as on PS3, this is the essential factor for performance. A developer explained it a while back.

PS4 players get richer visuals, and smoothness, but in terms of lag and competition, the challenge would be equal.

Still don't know if the cross-play rumour is real or not though, they never usually d stuff like that..
 

Poetazer

Neo Member

Found it, direct from Naughty Dog, this essentialy means your input will be lower latency on PS4, but the overall sync rate is the same..


To clear up some misinformation: the network update rate of The Last of Us is not 10Hz. The Last of Us uses a hybrid approach whereby player movement is updated at 15Hz and other gameplay-critical data is sent on the next frame (with the game running at ~30Hz). So events like shooting an enemy player, getting an extra frame of progress on the lockbox in Interrogation mode, dying, respawning, are all updated at ~30Hz (the game runs at 30 most of the time but as noted there are occasional small dips).

Player movement updates are quite critical obviously and a higher update rate for them would improve some of the latency-related issues. For example, the case where you see yourself move behind a wall and you think you are safe but on the enemy player's machine your position is slightly in the past so from her perspective she shoots you before you've moved behind the wall.

In an earlier patch we experimented with increasing the network update rate for player movement to 30, but there were a lot of players who were unable to play as this requires more upstream bandwidth and causes more issues with wifi connections.

The Last of Us Remastered Edition on PS4 will use the same network update rate as the PS3 for player movement (15Hz) and gameplay-critical events will also be sent on the next frame. We are targeting 60fps, which results in a slight decrease in latency (16ms vs. 33ms) on events like firing your weapon / spawning / dying / etc.
 

Foshy

Member
Hey All

Regarding the 60 vs 30fps Multiplayer

Don't see anybody clearing this up..

The framerate does not make the experiences incompatible. It is just a fluidity. Last of Us Remastered will be using EXACTLY the same server sync settings as on PS3, this is the essential factor for performance. A developer explained it a while back.

PS4 players get richer visuals, and smoothness, but in terms of lag and competition, the challenge would be equal.

Still don't know if the cross-play rumour is real or not though, they never usually d stuff like that..
To echo this, Wipeout HD on PS3 had cross-play with Wipeout 2048 on Vita, while HD ran at 60 fps and 2048 at 30 fps. It can be done. Doesn't mean it's happening, of course, but technically it's possible.
 
hmm i traced the image and found this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=https://addleaf.com/articles/53b271b21d4afeb9448b4569&prev=/search%3Ftbs%3Dsbi:AMhZZit6WlxJyJL9I0FmWzoFLSqgiB_1PQT-ZD37P9jtqNmv7ZF4Ewy_1SyWwNgwbi-Sq1tBme1SNiyy21FB-H3ZFaQIC5zKDEcz1p4hK16hWLgj74vH_1-8ZYUpYUOyoxbb0LWHhVDqs5fJkw0EF97KnpV-sZQgdgdnSLVnPjVv9K1K4lccO4Ipm-V758JQJwU5BPML28mjd_12gp48YKhQU8wMb515BirMTbdAUBTyMMI8_1XdVj4-pNwWcKl2E3zkbP8QkgPXtIuVx8GEM_1t3ZYaG-zssIxulv0mQHWz3_1v8_10WwEY2_1aZDrJiyBTW_17e6BVHLwqrPS32F9j07gTsLmUiwKT2AX4yjKJrmq-b8NNYjc1y7NLa_1DFdCv37MbDeaMwVsoV4mnxkiZKYuZVK4Tj2d-fs8J1rR7odRTPsVd1EXhfteM1J24sV3A2Gl4TTEE27tEOjlUjzaMk3EKxbWK6MLrIQcFNImDUWLTisBjfFsR9i04SQgIB2uQySSeNVkFSWHkFSXotRr45dBJJOX1PhQ0ZJc6Xm9B0I2ysqWUdoRANcVJeaHwB6zRZ68G_1Jb6xgpVaXATbv6jp6d0I4olVZrOeZkZfOO3Wf3Vu6gJSD2hOx8FHJ8pMfTbR5wcYphqi5Ge9LymHfGp5-RD20a9H_1FDdXYBnMyf_1delViTl5BUFOwW7r3ORpRYea3w9hzpa3y63Hc8rOZcwQcXuVKxgDGByhYdUZsuStYU2TbPGR20k-F79YCX4CtsAMOMEoDZJmRC0Odb4bqrn_1u4zWFV1_1ebSfwEO_1is3DcGXSQOkYLpxcdivBKzBTcL-10YIcLPmti28bVVb3m6EIoOjRMji_1qDcWHuuPEwsMPaCsp7pSpUN8PGuJk9BKeh4-bzaterCxazTn0XtGjUJR4o6x2osUSwtZQqlzIMuA5XbATHT34H0Tb7Dg-t77ybXMNz8NzYp-wRsOiX1ofrO9uaUszXBzGcnjiZJWqTceUfhM-y-xuuuzX5i6hF9g8aHcnS5-4VRr59qYK8UaO0itkCqvQ5qng5zS2Le8PVN_1RpyQu1gHCsj-9bNGjoPZWWf-UYE6pA1burjT3fm28OSB15U5tI3GoFs-qI3Qis4NehuDz1y5PMg5g5fxkkXG5iL9Uk6XDEbVX0tYWllBpBUVy48w_1D-X-4jpTnU7Y7hVMlCKrGPpKSuZamXysee1xcLPRPYorwYdGnf8UzuR5Uuyh61COrEQox6AXGHM7aSADvPuQyrklK9Y3TPqavXaTOcC_12fcZYEHchp6DoAiVT7JPFrRJ956czPlziqV1cee3gadxRJgjqjVLeRyG6EG1SQ44sEQ5H9Y-q8gGteSczt4SksFV_1wNyMrHFZzc3U9LFDrrOj-ubVS8jmYJDnWU3eUeTOFkXIUHOnlQ_12a2c6UgvLikF0klSdCWdeGXQn5g
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Edit: this is a gameplay shot btw.

Transfx on Ellie's hair??
 

Raoh

Member
Good news for both PS3 and PS4 users.



http://ruliweb.daum.net/news/view/63152.daum

Remastered version will have Cross-Multiplayer feature!!

You can play multiplayer with PS3 users!!

Damn now I'm kinda sad I sold my PS3 version, I could've given it to one of my friends so we could've played :(
Edit: Welp looks like it may not be true.


Awesome news, glad I didn't sell my ps3 copy. What if playing against ps4 players is an option which prompts you to accept a character stat reset on the ps3?


I guess we should be expecting a ps3 patch for the game as well at the ps4 release date as well.


Is it July 29 yet?
 

Hubb

Member
What's the issue with cross platform online play? I'm not seeing it.

Well the only thing that would be weird about cross platform (to me at least) is that your progress does not carry over. So what happens if I use the same account for both games. When I put in my PS3 disc I have XYZ to choose from and all the weapons unlocked. Then when I start on PS4 I use the same account and name, but have nothing.

If they were doing cross platform I imagine they'd somehow work out carrying over your progress.
 

Porcupeth

Banned
You're comparing pre-rendered with in-game..
that ps4 version pic is in-game
the others on top are from pre-rendered cutscenes on ps3
 

Gurish

Member
No way the top is from the PS3 without any enhancements, it does not look like this during gameplay.

All those comparisons don't really say much until we get high quality gameplay.
 

Hubb

Member
Advantages in online gaming is nothing new. Anyway, my question was about some people almost being angry at the possibility.

I don't see where's the issue.

Well the only thing that would be weird about cross platform (to me at least) is that your progress does not carry over. So what happens if I use the same account for both games. When I put in my PS3 disc I have XYZ to choose from and all the weapons unlocked. Then when I start on PS4 I use the same account and name, but have nothing.

If they were doing cross platform I imagine they'd somehow work out carrying over your progress.

I'm not angry at the possibility. I just think when they came out and said your stats wont carry that kind of tells me it isn't happening.
 
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