The Left Freak Out Over Kanye West Supporting Our President

[TrainedRage]

Why Kanye West's Pro-Trump Tweets Are a Real Threat

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/why-kanye-wests-pro-trump-tweets-are-a-real-threat-w519572

"Therein lies the flawed reading Kanye West's touting of right-wing commentators like the black but Black Lives Matter–bashing Candace Owens or his declaration of "love" for Donald Trump as mere exercises in attention-whoring."

"It's easy for some – particularly if you are white – to say that an extremely influential black man with a cult-like following aligning himself with a demagogue and racist movement is much ado about nothing, but the rest of us can't shrug off the ramifications so swiftly."

"Conspiracy theorist and village idiot Alex Jones has extended an invitation to Kanye West to appear on InfoWars. Imagine how many people will be exposed to and influenced by such ignorance if that appearance happens."

"When you wear that hat... you are joining the likes of the tiki-torch–clutching white supremacists who stormed Charlottesville in the promotion of what that hat and the man behind it symbolizes."

"...do they have to align themselves with bigots who wouldn't rent to us, who called for our deaths when we were innocent, mocked our communities on the campaign trail and put a racist in the Department of Justice to enforce "law and order?" On top of this, the man is an admitted serial sexual assaulter – but then again, Chance has a song with R. Kelly."

"The inconvenient truth is that there are a number of black people more interested in enjoying the perks of white privilege than in leveling the playing field for us all."

"With Kanye West going full on alt-right on us, they've just found their best recruiter ever."


*CLAP* *CLAP* Wow. Great job Rolling Stone. You nailed it!

It's because I'm directly calling you a hypocrite that's acting like he's above it all when you're part of what you're complaining about.

Want a conversation about one of those topics? Make it and you'll have it, I'm sure. You're too busy having drive by smart ass comments about showcasing your superiority complex to have any sort of conversation that you claim that you want.

The irony...It's too much.........

 

[SatansReverence]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. This board is not left of center, it's center right.

I'm just going to stop you right there.

Now run along and hide in some far left echo chamber where you can tell yourself that anyone sitting to the right of Mao is really just a little Hitler.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

I'm just going to stop you right there.

Now run along and hide in some far left echo chamber where you can tell yourself that anyone sitting to the right of Mao is really just a little Hitler.

Annnnd this is supposed to prove a damn thing?

 

[StrikeNinja24]

Why Kanye West's Pro-Trump Tweets Are a Real Threat

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/why-kanye-wests-pro-trump-tweets-are-a-real-threat-w519572

"Therein lies the flawed reading Kanye West's touting of right-wing commentators like the black but Black Lives Matter–bashing Candace Owens or his declaration of "love" for Donald Trump as mere exercises in attention-whoring."

"It's easy for some – particularly if you are white – to say that an extremely influential black man with a cult-like following aligning himself with a demagogue and racist movement is much ado about nothing, but the rest of us can't shrug off the ramifications so swiftly."

"Conspiracy theorist and village idiot Alex Jones has extended an invitation to Kanye West to appear on InfoWars. Imagine how many people will be exposed to and influenced by such ignorance if that appearance happens."

"When you wear that hat... you are joining the likes of the tiki-torch–clutching white supremacists who stormed Charlottesville in the promotion of what that hat and the man behind it symbolizes."

"...do they have to align themselves with bigots who wouldn't rent to us, who called for our deaths when we were innocent, mocked our communities on the campaign trail and put a racist in the Department of Justice to enforce "law and order?" On top of this, the man is an admitted serial sexual assaulter – but then again, Chance has a song with R. Kelly."

"The inconvenient truth is that there are a number of black people more interested in enjoying the perks of white privilege than in leveling the playing field for us all."

"With Kanye West going full on alt-right on us, they've just found their best recruiter ever."


*CLAP* *CLAP* Wow. Great job Rolling Stone. You nailed it!




The irony...It's too much.........

I stick around and stay on topic. Some kids have this habit to try and pull it into other unrelated topics in some kind of gotcha move that falls flat on its face immediately.

I'm sure you can think of an example or two.

 

[SatansReverence]

Annnnd this is supposed to prove a damn thing?

Congratulations on being the embodiment of disingenuous debate.

You are wrong, accept it already.

 

[KINGMOKU]

It's because I'm directly calling you a hypocrite that's acting like he's above it all when you're part of what you're complaining about.

Want a conversation about one of those topics? Make it and you'll have it, I'm sure. You're too busy having drive by smart ass comments about showcasing your superiority complex to have any sort of conversation that you claim that you want.

So no, your not interested in an adult conversation. Noted.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

Congratulations on being the embodiment of disingenuous debate.

You are wrong, accept it already.

It's an online survey from two months ago that a small fraction of the board took.

I say again, how does that mean anything for the narrative of these forums? You're judging this off of the equivalent of a buzzfeed quiz? I'd like to think political affiliation goes past a 40 question multiple choice.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

So no, your not interested in an adult conversation. Noted.

So no, you aren't actually interested in reading and facilitating actual conversations. Noted.

Smart ass, I just told you to make a topic you want to have a discussion about.

 

[SatansReverence]

It's an online survey from two months ago that a small fraction of the board took.

I say again, how does that mean anything for the narrative of these forums? You're judging this off of the equivalent of a buzzfeed quiz? I'd like to think political affiliation goes past a 40 question multiple choice.

So, you're wrong, but refuse to accept it because it would challenge your narrative.

Quality.

You're still wrong though, Gaf isn't some alt-right cesspool. It isn't even centrist. Unfortunately for for far left zealots like yourself, you have to be extreme left to be considered "leftist" and anything but is literal Hitler.

 

[mushy tailspin]

Did the Right get trigger by this?

Noneless hope he tries to run in 2020 like he said he would.

Her pant suit is stained with the blood of innocents. There's nothing the left love more than aborted children

 

[StrikeNinja24]

So, you're wrong, but refuse to accept it because it would challenge your narrative.

Quality.

You're still wrong though, Gaf isn't some alt-right cesspool. It isn't even centrist. Unfortunately for for far left zealots like yourself, you have to be extreme left to be considered "leftist" and anything but is literal Hitler.

Pretty sure you're just writing that narrative yourself. And where did I say alt-right? I said right center. Slightly to the right. Get your narrative straight before making shit up.

Wait, playing the victim card and then yelling about others doing it is the MO here. Sorry, we should put it into the TOS while we're at it. "Need to be at least this hypocritical to post"

 

[ssolitare]

Her pant suit is stained with the blood of innocents. There's nothing the left love more than aborted children

I bet you Trump would pay 1.6 mil for one.

 

[mushy tailspin]

I bet you Trump would pay 1.6 mil for one.

Excuse me but that's not on the road map to making America great again

 

[TrainedRage]

It's an online survey from two months ago that a small fraction of the board took.

I say again, how does that mean anything for the narrative of these forums? You're judging this off of the equivalent of a buzzfeed quiz? I'd like to think political affiliation goes past a 40 question multiple choice.

Then prove to me its right of center.... As you say all the time.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

Excuse me but that's not on the road map to making America great again

That roadmap was a doodle on a Mcdonald's napkin that has already combust into flames months ago.

Now we are just watching the real life soap opera commence. Could easily post a couple topics today about the absolute implosions.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

Then prove to me its right of center.... As you say all the time.

I call it "Using my eyes and looking". When's the last time you had a left leaning topic that I didn't make?

Then again, this board is basically the same 30 or 40 people now.

 

[Dev1lXYZ]

Why Kanye West's Pro-Trump Tweets Are a Real Threat

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/why-kanye-wests-pro-trump-tweets-are-a-real-threat-w519572

"Therein lies the flawed reading Kanye West's touting of right-wing commentators like the black but Black Lives Matter–bashing Candace Owens or his declaration of "love" for Donald Trump as mere exercises in attention-whoring."

"It's easy for some – particularly if you are white – to say that an extremely influential black man with a cult-like following aligning himself with a demagogue and racist movement is much ado about nothing, but the rest of us can't shrug off the ramifications so swiftly."

"Conspiracy theorist and village idiot Alex Jones has extended an invitation to Kanye West to appear on InfoWars. Imagine how many people will be exposed to and influenced by such ignorance if that appearance happens."

"When you wear that hat... you are joining the likes of the tiki-torch–clutching white supremacists who stormed Charlottesville in the promotion of what that hat and the man behind it symbolizes."

"...do they have to align themselves with bigots who wouldn't rent to us, who called for our deaths when we were innocent, mocked our communities on the campaign trail and put a racist in the Department of Justice to enforce "law and order?" On top of this, the man is an admitted serial sexual assaulter – but then again, Chance has a song with R. Kelly."

"The inconvenient truth is that there are a number of black people more interested in enjoying the perks of white privilege than in leveling the playing field for us all."

"With Kanye West going full on alt-right on us, they've just found their best recruiter ever."


*CLAP* *CLAP* Wow. Great job Rolling Stone. You nailed it!




The irony...It's too much.........

According to the Media Bias/Fact Check, Rolling Stone has a 'slight to moderate liberal bias that utilizes loaded words(wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.

I personally wouldn't trust it because it is owned by Jay Penske of PMG. He got caught along with his brother breaking into the Nantucket Yacht Club as well as physically assaulting two prostitutes as well as urinating on them back in 2012.

 

[Dev1lXYZ]

According to the Media Bias/Fact Check, Rolling Stone has a 'slight to moderate liberal bias that utilizes loaded words(wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.

I personally wouldn't trust it because it is owned by Jay Penske of PMG. He got caught along with his brother breaking into the Nantucket Yacht Club as well as physically assaulting two prostitutes after urinating on them back in 2012.

 

[TrainedRage]

I call it "Using my eyes and looking". When's the last time you had a left leaning topic that I didn't make?

Then again, this board is basically the same 30 or 40 people now.

I mean whats funny is a user just gave you solid evidence of where people (who care to post) are on the political spectrum. If you want to deny the facts that that thread brought up you will get called disingenuous for good reason. Hell its 100% better proof than 'i use my eyes'. Republicans and issues dealing with a right leaning political environment are all the media talks about, so don't be surprised when there are topics talking about them. And as you said if you want to make a thread just go and do it.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

I mean whats funny is a user just gave you solid evidence of where people (who care to post) are on the political spectrum. If you want to deny the facts that that thread brought up you will get called disingenuous for good reason. Hell its 100% better proof than 'i use my eyes'. Republicans and issues dealing with a right leaning political environment are all the media talks about, so don't be surprised when there are topics talking about them. And as you said if you want to make a thread just go and do it.

You and I have a very different definition of 'solid evidence'. I have my opinions of the board, which is very centralistic, contrary to what some users are trying to push it towards. A quiz isn't solid evidence.

Though are you saying I don't make threads? I do it quite often.

If anything, most users here actively hate and avoid using most forms of media. More like you cherry pick the most obscure 'evidence' you can find and then prop it up as glorified facts.

 

[TrainedRage]

You and I have a very different definition of 'solid evidence'. I have my opinions of the board, which is very centralistic, contrary to what some users are trying to push it towards. A quiz isn't solid evidence.

Though are you saying I don't make threads? I do it quite often.

If anything, most users here actively hate and avoid using most forms of media. More like you cherry pick the most obscure 'evidence' you can find and then prop it up as glorified facts.

I'm not saying you don't make threads, just that instead of having a 'lack of left leaning threads' you should feel free to make them. Many users here will post in them and surly agree with you. Myself included. I don't know where you are getting the generalization of users here avoiding most forms of media. I think maybe it would be more accurate to say users here avoid the classic MSM, but I feel like most people do these days. I see many varied sources sited on GAF from left to right.

 

[mushy tailspin]

That roadmap was a doodle on a Mcdonald's napkin that has already combust into flames months ago.

Now we are just watching the real life soap opera commence. Could easily post a couple topics today about the absolute implosions.

Do it then. I triple dog dare you

 

[StrikeNinja24]

I'm not saying you don't make threads, just that instead of having a 'lack of left leaning threads' you should feel free to make them. Many users here will post in them and surly agree with you. Myself included. I don't know where you are getting the generalization of users here avoiding most forms of media. I think maybe it would be more accurate to say users here avoid the classic MSM, but I feel like most people do these days. I see many varied sources sited on GAF from left to right.

I disagree, most people still use the MSM, just their preferred ones. Any more and you're getting an overload of information.

Some sources are a bit more sketchy than others, you have to agree.

 

[TrainedRage]

I disagree, most people still use the MSM, just their preferred ones. Any more and you're getting an overload of information.

Some sources are a bit more sketchy than others, you have to agree.

I agree, some sources definitely have a bias or reputation. I just think due to all the "fake news" stuff people are becoming more varied and seeking more independent news outlets. I listen to NPR and Rush Limbaugh, I watch CNN and FOX, I visit 4chan and InfoWars as well as VOX, Vice and ResetEra. I like to get sources from all over the political spectrum.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

Do it then. I triple dog dare you

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/exclusive-interview-president-trump-on-fox-friends.1462139/

So easy I did it hours ago.

 

[highrider]

A few of my friends ( black and white ) and business contacts are posting these mock obituary memes about Kanye being dead to them on social media. One even said he died the same day his mother died. I’m so tired of al of these grandstanding mufukkas.

 

[mushy tailspin]

A few of my friends ( black and white ) and business contacts are posting these mock obituary memes about Kanye being dead to them on social media. One even said he died the same day his mother died. I’m so tired of al of these grandstanding mufukkas.

Should Photoshop a birth certificate so this is the day kanye truly lived

 

[Autoignition]

I still say that Dragon Energy sounds like a scam for boner pills.

 

[Dontero]

"The inconvenient truth is that there are a number of black people more interested in enjoying the perks of white privilege than in leveling the playing field for us all."

This sentence is so fucked up on so many levels. It has like everything in it.

 

[Blood Borne]

Some of these people are so far left that you could be labelled alt-right even if you lean left on everything.

Absolutely.

You can be for all things leftists, free healthcare, free education, high taxes, regulations, even be a minority and perhaps lgbt, but if you say you're against open borders and want tougher immigration, you are immediately labeled an alt right racist sexist xenophobe.

You MUST agree with them on EVERYTHING. Which begs the question, who are the true fascists.

 

[SatansReverence]

You MUST agree with them on EVERYTHING. Which begs the question, who are the true fascists.

It is always good for a laugh when a far leftist cries fascist and bigot or some such. It's like they're never opened a dictionary before in their lives.

 

[Blood Borne]

Why Kanye West's Pro-Trump Tweets Are a Real Threat

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/why-kanye-wests-pro-trump-tweets-are-a-real-threat-w519572

"Therein lies the flawed reading Kanye West's touting of right-wing commentators like the black but Black Lives Matter–bashing Candace Owens or his declaration of "love" for Donald Trump as mere exercises in attention-whoring."

"It's easy for some – particularly if you are white – to say that an extremely influential black man with a cult-like following aligning himself with a demagogue and racist movement is much ado about nothing, but the rest of us can't shrug off the ramifications so swiftly."

"Conspiracy theorist and village idiot Alex Jones has extended an invitation to Kanye West to appear on InfoWars. Imagine how many people will be exposed to and influenced by such ignorance if that appearance happens."

"When you wear that hat... you are joining the likes of the tiki-torch–clutching white supremacists who stormed Charlottesville in the promotion of what that hat and the man behind it symbolizes."

"...do they have to align themselves with bigots who wouldn't rent to us, who called for our deaths when we were innocent, mocked our communities on the campaign trail and put a racist in the Department of Justice to enforce "law and order?" On top of this, the man is an admitted serial sexual assaulter – but then again, Chance has a song with R. Kelly."

"The inconvenient truth is that there are a number of black people more interested in enjoying the perks of white privilege than in leveling the playing field for us all."

"With Kanye West going full on alt-right on us, they've just found their best recruiter ever."


*CLAP* *CLAP* Wow. Great job Rolling Stone. You nailed it!




The irony...It's too much.........

That rolling Stone article is awful. It just shows how much white leftists want to control black people.

 

[IaN_GAF]

Alt right is just anything vaguely related to things not 100% SJW at this point, or what?

 

[EviLore]

Feels like this topic just is another demonstration of this board slowly turning into the new the_donald.

Interesting. Are you sure you definitely pointed your eyeballs at both places and made the "hrrrgghghh crinkle brow and use bigly on thing to know what there" feeling happen with your brain? No pretend.

 

[GAFDooMsDaY]

Agreed. If you have the ability to create threads and you don’t participate in creating threads, how can you complain?

That's not what my post meant. I can critique you guys for posting not stop threads about the "left" without having to "participate in creating threads" shitting on republicans. That's now how it works , I'm not biased. There is just as much wrong with the left that there is on the right, but the Donald has been in full force lately.

 

[GAFDooMsDaY]

At least these threads seem to have better discussion about the subject matter than the daily "Trump drinks too much Coke" and "Trump kissed a woman on cheek" threads ever had.
You are free to open a thread of what "the right" is doing if the existence of this thread bothers you so much and if you feel the balance is off.

See above. Your answer to this is more threads shitting on republicans ? That creates balance? Yeah, I make a comment about a ton of posts about the left recently and your response is "well you can make posts about the right"... that's stupid. More hate doesn't equal balance.

 

[EviLore]

That's not what my post meant. I can critique you guys for posting not stop threads about the "left" without having to "participate in creating threads" shitting on republicans. That's now how it works , I'm not biased. There is just as much wrong with the left that there is on the right, but the Donald has been in full force lately.

Says the hopelessly biased voice. Everyone's biased. You can't account for your bias until you acknowledge its existence. Logically follows (and scientifically established, see below) that as a general rule the most biased people claim to be unbiased since they can't or won't recognize it sitting there in plain sight, while the least biased people are the ones painfully observant of their own bias and holding themselves accountable for all of it.

Have a read, it's fun stuff:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

 

[Airola]

See above. Your answer to this is more threads shitting on republicans ? That creates balance? Yeah, I make a comment about a ton of posts about the left recently and your response is "well you can make posts about the right"... that's stupid. More hate doesn't equal balance.

No, I said you can do that if you feel the balance is off.
I was here when there were threads after threads about Trump that very often were completely unproductive, and I was fine.
I am here now when there aren't those threads anymore, and I am still fine.
The reason why those threads aren't here is because the people who liked to make them decided to leave this place in favor of another place.
You can't blame the people still around here for not creating a balance of your liking when all that has happened is that the people who created the balance to your liking have left.

If you would like things to be different, you are the one who has the power to have influence on that. What I'm reading from your posts is that you would want the moderators to stop negative threads about the left, as if censorship would be the answer for the abundance (in your opinion) of threads you don't like and the lack (in your opinion) of threads you would like.

Look, in ideal world there would be a forum where both far left and far right people would feel free to write to. In ideal world pro-Trump and anti-Trump threads could coexist. In ideal world pro-right and pro-left threads could coexist. The moderators here aren't in favor of one way or another anymore. The current state of GAF allows both of them to coexist. So it's a damn shame people first leave the place and then come back yelling there are only posts from the wrong side here anymore. Things are finally open for real discussion but it feels like people are too afraid of the opposing view that any signs of that makes them either stay away or just come here and complain of the lack of themselves in the forum.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

Interesting. Are you sure you definitely pointed your eyeballs at both places and made the "hrrrgghghh crinkle brow and use bigly on thing to know what there" feeling happen with your brain? No pretend.

But if I told you all the secrets, it would ruin the ending.

No spoilers.

 

[generaldane]

Have we changed from threads about Trump doing dumb shit to threads about the left doing dumb shit?
Which sensible person gives a fuck who any celebrity choose to support?

 

[TTOOLL]

Have we changed from threads about Trump doing dumb shit to threads about the left doing dumb shit?
Which sensible person gives a fuck who any celebrity choose to support?

Huummm, do you see hundreds of posts with things like "this motherfucker", "racist piece of shit", "fuck Trump", "we're doomed", "I'm leaving the country", "orange garbage" and the famous "literally shaking now" ???

I don't, so yes, there's a difference.

 

[OH-MyCar]

I still say that Dragon Energy sounds like a scam for boner pills.

 

[generaldane]

Huummm, do you see hundreds of posts with things like "this motherfucker", "racist piece of shit", "fuck Trump", "we're doomed", "I'm leaving the country", "orange garbage" and the famous "literally shaking now" ???

I don't, so yes, there's a difference.

I think that's because there's less active poster here now, personally I find these thread just as stupid as the Trump ones, but I suppose I'm part of the problem for contributing so I'll be peacing out

 

[dolabla]

 

[Elvin Culdrige]

I just hope the new album is good. Is there a title yet?

 

[Grinchy]

"83. Don’t refer to things as your “spirit animal” if you’re not Native. There are other ways to express affinity with something. "
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ne95dm/how-to-be-a-white-ally-to-people-of-color

How dare you!

 

[GAFDooMsDaY]

Says the hopelessly biased voice. Everyone's biased. You can't account for your bias until you acknowledge its existence. Logically follows (and scientifically established, see below) that as a general rule the most biased people claim to be unbiased since they can't or won't recognize it sitting there in plain sight, while the least biased people are the ones painfully observant of their own bias and holding themselves accountable for all of it.

Have a read, it's fun stuff:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

I agree it terms of certain things but not when I think both dems and repubs are equally corrupt. I'm not registered as neither and have been independent and believe in 3rd party. How can I be biased to either dems/repubs or trump or Hillary when I think they are equally shitty? Am I biased towards being independent? I am allowed to think Trump is still a better option than Hillary and still say he's doing a terrible job as a president? I love the site , but some of you are stuck in this left/right paradigm.

 

[Meier]

Some of the replies in here are very illuminating. This is a new era for GAF, I suppose.

I have no clue if I will continue to listen to Kanye's music or not. It's a difficult situation to be in if he's been your favorite solo artist for about 15 years.

 

[take_it_easy]

Some of the replies in here are very illuminating. This is a new era for GAF, I suppose.

One without thought police...

 

[Claus Grimhildyr]

Some of the replies in here are very illuminating. This is a new era for GAF, I suppose.

I have no clue if I will continue to listen to Kanye's music or not. It's a difficult situation to be in if he's been your favorite solo artist for about 15 years.

Or you can just listen to the music and disregard their personal political standing? If I am understanding your "issue", I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

And yes, this is a new era for gaf. One where you can have differing opinions, have discussions, and not get banned by overzealous moderation and attacked by overly sensitive members.