i think the reason why cold steel seems to be progressing so fast is because carpe fulgur isn't working on it.
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i think the reason why cold steel seems to be progressing so fast is because carpe fulgur isn't working on it.
Well, 3rd at least has that in with PC, but no way will we get to see it before Cold Steel at best. Probably relegated to "if we have free resources and the games keep doing well. And no PSP."
Pellegri Testament
Member
The Evolution games are licensed by more than just Falcom, which Xseed has said multiple times that dealing with multiple companies could be more trouble than it's worth. There's also the massive amount of VA work that would have to be done and then the fact that FC Evolution is Vita only, which with how Vita is doing in general, would likely not be even close to a worthwhile investment.
Frustrating and disappointing.
At least "Trails in the Flash" doesn't make me think of that damn hedgehog.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
I'm surprised we could be getting this so soon after SC (which if this date is true, must be really, really close since I can't imagine they would release the two games within a month or so of each other).
While I would have preferred to get everything in order, I'll be looking forward to playing this, and most people seem to say that there won't be any massive issues with us not having played Third/Zero/Ao.
Yes, I also hope for this. It'd be nice to have those gaps filled in.
If not, I suppose I might have to import the Evolution versions for Zero/Ao and play them.
While I would have preferred to get everything in order, I'll be looking forward to playing this, and most people seem to say that there won't be any massive issues with us not having played Third/Zero/Ao.
Yes, I also hope for this. It'd be nice to have those gaps filled in.
If not, I suppose I might have to import the Evolution versions for Zero/Ao and play them.
DiscoJer
Member
Is there any chance that Bandai-Namco is doing it on their own, without XSeed? After all, Bandai ported (and localized) three of the games on the PSP.
I know their translations get a lot of crap, but IMHO, they weren't any worse than the average SNES era JRPG and they managed to put out 3 of them in a short amount of time...
I know their translations get a lot of crap, but IMHO, they weren't any worse than the average SNES era JRPG and they managed to put out 3 of them in a short amount of time...
Not really considering XSeed registered that very same trademark a few months ago.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
From what I've heard, the first game at least doesn't spoil much of Zero and Ao, so maybe XSEED's gambit (if they're doing Sen anytime soon) is to work on Zero, then 3rd, then Sen 2, and next Ao. Falcom knows about their Western PC audience, so the chances of them fixing the Joyoland port of Ao for XSEED to localize is high (maybe even Nayuta will get a treatment).
Agreed. To be fair, Carpe Fulgur could get a deal going because of their work on the SC localization, and there's a chance Ghostlight can leverage their projects with Acquire, which XSEED's cooperated with, to nab a game. And there's Mastiff, at least at the moment.
They'd be hopping onto mobile and handhelds exclusively if it weren't for Kondo and the shareholders noticing how big our market is...that's already happened. Us giving their older PC games better sales than anyone could have imagined has impressed them in a literal sense. I'm not sure the order here matters aside from Falcom wanting to show off its most recent Kiseki games, which is fine and makes sense if Falcom's planning on a Calvard game in the next five years or so (we'll have two Kiseki games set in the major nations). The assumption I'm making here is that Nintendo has an upcoming handheld Falcom can develop for if Sony bails on that end; the Japanese demographic comes first.
Hopefully this would be a chance to reveal a PC port of Sen no Kiseki debuting with XSEED's localization. It wouldn't kill either party to do without, but I'd like to see how responsive Falcom is.
charlequin
Banned
I mean, here's how I look at it.
The number one priority of both Falcom and XSEED has to be establishing and strengthening the franchise in the US, because if it can turn into a tentpole niche RPG franchise it makes it viable to keep profitably releasing future games.
Historically speaking, people who play a lot of JRPGs are very, very used to skipping games or playing things out of order, as long as it doesn't affect a directly-carried-over plotline. If (as several other mods have assured me) the connections from Zero/Ao to Sen are mostly in the setting and broader metaplot, it doesn't keep the game from being enjoyed as long as the gameplay and self-contained plotline are good.
Furthermore, since Sen 2 only came out in 2013 and Sen 3 (or the start of the next subseries) isn't out yet, it's entirely plausible for XSEED to nearly "catch up" and get in a position to bring over new entries within a year or so of their previous release. At that point platform issues start to be less significant and they can potentially keep up with future releases indefinitely.
If an ongoing fanbase for the series manages to get built up over here, who knows what happens down the line? Maybe XSEED fills a hole in their 2019 lineup with TITS TC; maybe Falcom brings out some new collected edition on a different system way down the line; maybe we just get the critical mass for a serious fan translation effort. Regardless, I think the best chances for the series in the long run are to focus on getting caught up with games in the present, rather than worrying about the games we've missed.
Corpse Party: Blood Drive maybe. Not sure why it would be classified as an action title though.
YianGaruga
Banned
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I wish! Although classifying CP as action is...silly.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Interesting that this might be coming that soon, but I don't trust that date at all. Probably a placeholder, wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't come out until next year (or 2017, or...).
I think I'll end up passing on it regardless. I'm already not very interested in Sen, and on top of that we presumably aren't even getting the Crossbell games. Just kind of kills the whole thing, so I may just be done with the series after SC.
I think I'll end up passing on it regardless. I'm already not very interested in Sen, and on top of that we presumably aren't even getting the Crossbell games. Just kind of kills the whole thing, so I may just be done with the series after SC.
Estival Versus.
Ramzastrife
Member
I would love to see this happen. Like Chaosblade I highly doubt the date, but we will see.
Isn't that PS4/Vita?
Isn't that PS4/Vita?
That's right. Well, it can be either Blood Drive or Tokyo Xanadu.
Nightengale
Member
Don't. You won't really need it.
charlequin
Banned
I mean, they probably wouldn't if XSEED can demonstrate a faster release schedule for these things. Obviously the Western PC publishing is a mutually beneficial relationship, but it needs to actually be executed on correctly. XSEED would have a huge incentive to get Sen in good shape and shipped rapidly to keep Falcom from considering any alternatives.
Well, I would agree that if people won't buy Sen on principle because we didn't get the in-between games that it would kill the whole thing.
Hours Left
Member
Still not super happy with the idea of skipping to the Sen series, but I understand the complications surrounding everything. But more Trails is always a good thing, so hopefully we'll know more soon.
I think the major reason to skip ahead to Sen is platform relevancy. There is no PC version of Sen series, so if they want to release a translation to the buying public on PS3 and Vita they have to do it as quickly as they can before these platforms become irrelevant in modern gaming.
Once they are caught up, there is a probability of releasing the other titles, which do have PC versions... but I won't pretend to guess the elaborate and annoying business tactics behind such maneuvers
Once they are caught up, there is a probability of releasing the other titles, which do have PC versions... but I won't pretend to guess the elaborate and annoying business tactics behind such maneuvers
YianGaruga
Banned
I'll buy whatever they decide to release. Not buying the new games because older ones are skipped is silly.
Basileus777
Member
The PC is where the series finally found an audience in the West. I wonder how much of that will cross over to the PS3/Vita.
YianGaruga
Banned
Well, that was one game and released at a relatively low price. We'll have to see how that translates to future titles. I've heard before that the 100k on Steam are supposedly much higher than the PSP sales, but do we have numbers for PSP sales (physical + digital, US + EU)? Not downplaying the success, just curious.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Kondo specifically remarked in the recent Gurumin interview on the Steam release's sales volume, not the revenue generated and cut of that given to Falcom. Not to downplay the latter, but I think he loves and wants to emphasize the growing audience for Falcom games in the West.
DaSorcerer7
Member
This is excellent news.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I kind of lose regardless of how I vote with my wallet though. Don't buy it, don't send the message I want the other games. Do buy it, send the message that I want more Sen. If I'm sending a bad message either way I might as well save my money, that way I'm not out anything.
I also find it kind of hard to believe that Falcom would be pressuring XSEED to do anything because they themselves don't seem to be doing much to support the western audience. We can't get something as simple as a PSTV patch for Celceta despite one already being available in Japan. No PC versions for the upcoming Ys game or Tokyo Xanadu (yes, there is the possibility that they are developing one just for the western market so they haven't been announced, but that seems like reaching to me). If Falcom cared enough to push XSEED to release Kiseki games faster, they would probably also put some effort in themselves for their western audience.
Pellegri Testament
Member
Ehh the only older one they would really have trouble with would be Ao, since Falcom didn't do the port for that one and using the Chinese port would require having a Chinese translator (which Xseed doesn't have). Guess it could just be a "we'll worry about it when we get to it" kind of deal. Who knows, maybe by then Falcom will make phone ports or something and it will be easier to port it over to PC from there.
charlequin
Banned
Not really telling you what to do, more just musing that anyone who can't deal with an out-of-order release should consider the series dead now because like you say, there's no remotely conceivable outcome you'll be happy with.
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I also find it kind of hard to believe that Falcom would be pressuring XSEED to do anything because they themselves don't seem to be doing much to support the western audience.[/quote]
They're pressuring XSEED!
This is kind of an absurd expectation. Small companies with very little staff can't pivot platforms that fast. At best you might see projects started in the future roll in PC early.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe? It's been almost 3 years since Felghana and Origin went through their first summer sale, and both were very successful. IIRC both broke into the top 3 best sellers during the period where they had a heavier discount. Celceta hadn't even released in Japan at that point, so it seems unlikely Falcom was even out of the planning stages for the upcoming Ys game.
Maybe they were though. I don't know how they work or how they are able to release 1-2 games a year of the scope they do with <50 people. Maybe spreading thin and moving people to priority projects is part of the process so it was well underway on the current target platforms that long ago.
Benzychenz
Member
Day 1.
Good JRPGs need to keep getting localisations despite the costs, so I will support them.
Good JRPGs need to keep getting localisations despite the costs, so I will support them.
Kresnik258
Member
For anyone interested, XSEED have a PS3/Vita game listed for E3:
http://mk02jm307.mapyourshow.com/6_0/exhibitor/exhibitor-details.cfm?ExhID=xse7780
(Also a PS4/Vita game which I presume is Senran Kagura and a PS3/PS4 game which I have no idea about)
http://mk02jm307.mapyourshow.com/6_0/exhibitor/exhibitor-details.cfm?ExhID=xse7780
(Also a PS4/Vita game which I presume is Senran Kagura and a PS3/PS4 game which I have no idea about)
You're right. For some reason I read that their other game was Vita only; it's most likely SG then.
I don't think you can make this kind of statements when the alternative was the PSP.
PS3 version has longer loading times except when you install it onto a SSD. PS3 has a somewhat better frame rate for some hectic scenes.
YianGaruga
Banned
So there's a good chance EV will be at E3. So awesome.
The other game is a Fighting/Wrestling game (I assume that's just the general descriptor for all fighters). Any ideas?
creid
Member
What in the hell are you talking about?
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
If you want fame, translating a relatively obscure JRPG isn't the way to go about it. He suffers from depression & the stress of such a large project & having another company rely on him was just too much.