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The lineup for the first 2020 Democratic debate is set

JORMBO

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The Democratic National Committee announced on Thursday which 20 Democratic presidential candidates qualified for the first set of debates, providing clarity to the June matchup that will feature the first high-profile clashes of the party's nominating process.
Those candidates are:
That leaves three Democrats -- Montana Gov. Steve Bullock, Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton and Miramar, Florida, Mayor Wayne Messam, a candidate whose campaign has struggled to gain any traction -- on the outside looking in at the first debates on June 26 and 27 in Miami.
Candidates had until 11 a.m. ET to certify with the DNC that they have either achieved at least 1% support in three polls from an approved list of pollsters or received campaign contributions from 65,000 unique donors, including 200 donors each from 20 different states.

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JORMBO

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How long is this train-wreck going to be? At two hours, with no breaks, and no speaking from the moderator, that would give each candidate exactly 6 minutes.

In true Socialist fashion I think some people on stage are going to be more equal than others.
Split across two nights. 10 candidates each.
 

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Wow, Swallwell snuck in? I guess thats shitstains begging on social media paid off
I saw Trump supporters claiming to donate to his campaign just for the laughs on Twitter. He won't go anywhere.

I'm thinking Yang could possibly make the strongest first impression at that debate. If he pushes his UBI policy it's going to kneecap anyone advocating for a $15 minimum wage which includes some of the most high profile candidates: Biden, Sanders, Warren and Harris.
 

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im assuming CNN isn't even going to cover Green Party or other Third Party debates. that's why we are stuck with this clown car. this is our Freedom of Choice.

at least SNL will find a way to profit from our misery
 

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Gropers, phonies, corporatists, war-hawks, losers, hacks, and Tulsi Gabbard,.
To be fair, I feel like this describes modern politics in general.

Both "Conservative" and "Liberal" are meaningless terms. If you're right wing, you'll never get tougher immigration policies that favors unity over multiculturalism. If you're left-wing, you will never get a candidate who is against war and fighting corporations.

It's really just a choice of which politician sucks up to Wall Street the most and then throws you a bone from there. America as a country that elected presidents that represented the people, has been dead since the 1960s.

It's now about electing figureheads whose goal is to push globalism and endless wars to keep the corporations happy.
 
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I think Biden is a good bet for the dems. He has experience as a former vice president and is still present in the american public's consciousness. Also (and this is going to sound weird) he can be memeable. Jokes like "creepy Joe" with him weirdly breaking into people's personal space with kisses and whispers can actually be marketable in a way. The internet popular culture is important now, people have always made jokes and memes about Trump (for and against) and that really pushed him further into the public eye. Goofiness/weirdness is important in the internet age.

Personally I don't really care for the democrats. I probably will either vote republican again or try to go independent (maybe American Solidarity Party, but I know that won't do jack poop, I just hate this binary party system. Republicans aren't that much better than democrats but in order to get a few of the things I feel need to get done I have to follow their side unfortunately. It shouldn't be like that).

Gaf dems and liberals, who do you support in this debate?
 

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It's Biden's to lose. And this despite things that would have sunk him in the past - like the whole plagiarism thing. Being a creepy weirdo that loves to touch women and children. His son being involved in shady deals with foreign powers. And generally being a dumbass

But apparently since none of that stuff hurt Trump, it's not going to hurt Biden, either.
 

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I think Biden is a good bet for the dems. He has experience as a former vice president and is still present in the american public's consciousness. Also (and this is going to sound weird) he can be memeable. Jokes like "creepy Joe" with him weirdly breaking into people's personal space with kisses and whispers can actually be marketable in a way. The internet popular culture is important now, people have always made jokes and memes about Trump (for and against) and that really pushed him further into the public eye. Goofiness/weirdness is important in the internet age.

Personally I don't really care for the democrats. I probably will either vote republican again or try to go independent (maybe American Solidarity Party, but I know that won't do jack poop, I just hate this binary party system. Republicans aren't that much better than democrats but in order to get a few of the things I feel need to get done I have to follow their side unfortunately. It shouldn't be like that).

Gaf dems and liberals, who do you support in this debate?
Trump took advantage of how widely the media is disliked and distrusted by conservatives to turn negative coverage into positive with his energy and bluster. No part of that applies to Biden. I don't see positives to being memeable as creepy and sleepy, and he doesn't seem to have the energy and personality to make that stuff roll off. He has name recognition, but it's as an insider, not an exciting outsider.
 

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A white man won't get through the D primary. The primary will be all about who can seem the most "woke" and yell about how America sucks and white people suck.

Then for the general election, the chosen POC will try to pivot and seem normal but those video clips from the primary will be used to torpedo him/her.
 

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A white man won't get through the D primary. The primary will be all about who can seem the most "woke" and yell about how America sucks and white people suck.

Then for the general election, the chosen POC will try to pivot and seem normal but those video clips from the primary will be used to torpedo him/her.
While I agree with you, which POC even stands a chance to win the primary?

Andrew Yang is a huge no, especially when he made comments about the death rate of White Americans. That already makes him a "Nazi/White supremacist" despite being Chinese.

Cory Booker comes off as a lameduck. Maybe Tulsi might stand a chance but from what I heard, she 's basically a Republican in disguise.

I think we'll see another white candidate but ironically, he's just going to be a self loathing bastard. Basically, expect more white guilt and blaming all problems in America on whites being pushed heavily.
 
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A moderate can't win the primary and a progressive can't win the general.

Biden will get excoriated for every bad idea he's ever had over his career (and he's had some bad ones). Eventually, the argument that voting for Biden is voting to go backwards will start to work, just as it did for Trump against the dozen plus lifelong career politicians he steamrolled. If Biden continues backpedaling every major policy position he's ever firmly held and defended for decades, then he will only get out of this by saying some truly crazy things. When Trump said Hillary wanted to rip fully formed children out of wombs, it rallied the entire conservative base around him and, if we're honest, many centrist voters in those purple states, too, regardless of whether you can accept that or not.

Biden is also old and tired. The dude just has not been campaigning at all and when he finally popped his head out this week, he only made it through the event by propping himself up every chance he got, losing his train of thought, and was just about out of breath by the time he was done. He rambled on about the injustice of Jimmy John's noncompete clauses, which every employment lawyer knows are unenforceable, largely because the courts themselves have been saying so for years now.

The only candidate who I can accept will not do everything in her power to destroy American Constitutionalism and has any real chance of bringing this country together is Tulsi Gabbard. Bernie lost the benefit of the doubt when he belly flopped into the acid bath of identity politics and radical abortionist jihad. Unfortunately, Tulsi is not accepting PAC money and her presidential campaign is currently buried towards the end of first page hits in a Google search (most candidates have it at the top with their office and wikipedia pages; for Corey Booker, it's the very first hit). The media already has been calling her a Putin puppet for months and she's also been kinda boring.

The rest of these clowns don't have the charisma to win a general election, and I call them clowns because they are very clearly performers pretending to be public servants. I have every confidence that these hateful, vindictive opportunists will put their nihilism on full display when they eviscerate eachother with the same shamelessness as they did with Brett Kavanaugh (Ultimate Survivor). I'm trying to think more on the negativity in my life lately (I'm a shameless troll) but it will indeed be justice when these candidates knowingly and carelessly destroy themselves, eachother, and their party once these debates get rolling. I am purposefully buying specific popcorn, seasoning, and containers to ensure I can fully enjoy this spectacle of a shitshow.
 

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Hoping Gabbard, Warren and Yang come away from the debates looking much stronger. Should be plenty of meme material regardless of what happens though.
 
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While I agree with you, which POC even stands a chance to win the primary?
I'm sure Kamala Harris will find a way. I've believed she would run and become the nominee the minute the DNC announced they were moving the California primary up to Super Tuesday last year. That means they won't have to overwhelm the media to convince the public Bernie can't win like they did in 2016. So far it all seems to be playing out more or less as I expected.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders have been at the top of the polls taking most of the heat, allowing Harris to fly under the radar as she picks up important endorsements from coast to coast. The only monkey wrench in that plan is Pete Buttigieg's rise, his status as a gay man attracting blind support from the LGBT+ community, but the Dem party still has their finger on the scale regardless of what they've been feeding the media, like the super delegate rule change. I think those with the power to influence the primaries still firmly believe it's a woman's time to shine, especially after the way the 2018 midterms played out, Pelosi claiming it was a woman's time to lead, so to me it's between Harris and Warren. The recent abortion issue is going to make it even more difficult for any man to stand out of that Dem crowd.

Warren makes a lot more sense on paper because she's been the strongest at detailing her policies, but her socialist lean made her a risky bet early on, especially with her attacking the corporate world. She's been trying to distance herself from socialism and the Washington Post wrote an article yesterday claiming her and Sanders are moving in opposite directions - laughable considering how similar they are - which seems like a 2-for-1: an attempt to legitimize Warren among the corporate donor class and to bury Bernie.

My favorite candidates are the ones most detached from the establishment, that Dem party becoming less appealing by the day, but nothing I've seen so far gives me the impression they'll be able to overcome the hurdles ahead of them.
 

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How the fuck can you have any sort of intelligent, reasonable debate with that many candidates, what a clusterfuck.

20 candidates in a debate wtf. Separate that shit into a dodgeball game or something and the losing team doesn't get to go to the debate.
 

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How the fuck can you have any sort of intelligent, reasonable debate with that many candidates, what a clusterfuck.

20 candidates in a debate wtf. Separate that shit into a dodgeball game or something and the losing team doesn't get to go to the debate.
It's two debates with 10 candidates in each. 10 still is a lot though.
 

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That is the worst player select screen ever
Everyone knows the devs love Biden though and gave him all sorts of plot armor and super annoying combos.

Dude has command grabs and 3 different h/l mixups. Don't even get me started on his safe on block overhead.
 
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Andrew Yang is a huge no, especially when he made comments about the death rate of White Americans. That already makes him a "Nazi/White supremacist" despite being Chinese.

Cory Booker comes off as a lameduck. Maybe Tulsi might stand a chance but from what I heard, she 's basically a Republican in disguise.
Your views on all three of them are woefully uninformed.
 
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Oh and the media has already begun their hit pieces on Andrew Yang so that's one minority down. (I'm not a fan of him but holy shit...)

https://www.thenation.com/article/andrew-yang-campaign-election/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereknewton/2019/06/13/andrew-yangs-education-ideas-and-plans-arent-bad-theyre-much-worse-than-that/#7d890be4794e

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/06/10/feature/random-man-runs-for-president-the-odd-saga-of-andrew-yang-explained/?utm_term=.a8f9951dbe41

"Random Man Runs for President"

jfc Washington Post.



Might as well just say "This asian dude who looks like all other asian dudes is running for president"
 

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Oh and the media has already begun their hit pieces on Andrew Yang so that's one minority down. (I'm not a fan of him but holy shit...)

https://www.thenation.com/article/andrew-yang-campaign-election/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereknewton/2019/06/13/andrew-yangs-education-ideas-and-plans-arent-bad-theyre-much-worse-than-that/#7d890be4794e

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/06/10/feature/random-man-runs-for-president-the-odd-saga-of-andrew-yang-explained/?utm_term=.a8f9951dbe41

"Random Man Runs for President"

jfc Washington Post.



Might as well just say "This asian dude who looks like all other asian dudes is running for president"


The establishment doing what it do.
 
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^ He goes up to the debate on CNN and his plaque says "Asian Dude" :p

On another note I kinda want to like Cory Booker, I start to think "man this dudes banging Rosario Dawson every night so he's gotta be doing something right"

But he's kinda wishy washy and blows his tune to wherever the wind blows. I don't think he's a "true radical left" despite his campaign promises, but I don't think he has the backbone to stay moderate left either. His past views are fairly moderate in some places but he bounces all over the place.

I don't really like his whole "I never drank, did drugs, smoked a cigarette, vegetarian" schtick either.
 

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Also lmao @ having Maddow moderate the debate. There's no quicker way to hand Trump a second term then by shoving Maddow out there interrupting candidates about "muh Russiagate" when they're trying to get policies across.

"Senator Sanders, I hate to interrupt you on your universal healthcare plan, but what do you think about the Russia-gate question I asked earlier"



At least Fox News rolls out Shepherd Smith :p
 

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gabbard
yang
sanders
pocahontas

the rest can fuck off back to their hellholes

i would however like to see gillibrand's tits
 
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Not American But I absolutely Love Andrew Yang, huge momentum building, he's everywhere last couple weeks and He's standing up to criticizm well and he's drawing support across the divide , he's already qualified for the second round of debates, fantastic calm unifying policies. Trump shook it up, changed the game and opened the door for someone like Yang to be able to win too..before the DNC would never let him ..now they just can't deny the old familiar isn't working.,
He's the Dark Horse to watch, love his Promo too I want a MATH(MAKE AMERICA THINK HARDER) Hat. Hell IF he came to Canada i'd vote for him. he's the only democrat so far that seem to be seriously looking at the looming problems and has practical answers how to manage.


This is why he can win..he's the only democrat looking for solutions for all of America..not "we'll win and those people will just have to fall in line"
 

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Would bang: Tulsi, marianne, Kristen.

Corey looks like baraka from mortal kombat

Julian castro looks like an alien in human skin.
 

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Tulsi is pretty damn good looking. Checked her site and she's surprisingly reasonable for a democrat. Wonder how long she'll last.