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The Medium - PS5 Gameplay

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is well know and objectively true that the xsx GPU is more powerful ..recent release see a pattern where the xsx have a substantial advantage in resolution....this game is really heavy when is dual rendering and not so much optimized is very likely that the res will be lower than xsx VERY VERY likely
stop already with the fud
The resolution is actually higher on ps5...anyway you should stop to talk of a pattern of something it could happen or less. The most recent releases lately shows many games with the same resolution on ps5 but obviously you just continue to look to what it fit your narrative. It's funny though you continue to use just resolution to define the more powerful machine when it's relatively true
 
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recent release see a pattern where the xsx have a substantial advantage in resolution
Substantial?
If it was substantial people wouldn’t need reports from DF/NX to notice the differences.
There has actually not been one single substantial difference in resolution, framerate or graphics since the launch of these consoles. It’s quite literally the smallest gap between two platforms I’ve ever experienced. This gen we’re talking about decimal avg fps differences and gfx differences seen at 400% zoom. 🤷‍♂️
 
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The resolution is actually higher on ps5...anyway you should stop to talk of a pattern of something it could happen or less. The most recent releases lately shows many games with the same resolution on ps5 but obviously you just continue to look to what it fit your narrative. It's funny though you continue to use just resolution to define the more powerful machine when it's relatively true
wut? resolution mean GPU calculate more pixels ...resolution has been used as yardstick for establishing gpu disparity in the PC world for decades.
and there is that pattern we know the xsx GPU is more powerful since the consoles were released ..... that's the specs
the only difference is that this generation, unlike the PS4 launch generation, a certain part of gamers "who knows why" is deciding that specs and resolution no longer matter
 
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wut? resolution mean GPU calculate more pixels ...resolution has been used as yardstick for establishing gpu disparity in the PC world for decades.
and there is that pattern we know the xsx GPU is more powerful since the consoles were released ..... that's the specs
the only difference is that this generation, unlike the PS4 launch generation, a certain part of gamers "who knows why" is deciding that specs and resolution no longer matter

The recent release pattern shows us devs lost their tools again. The res difference is so minimal. The XSX showing that it isn't that much powerful compared to the PS5.

A minimal higher dynamic res, but it can't have a better fps as well. The XSX would have a big advantage if it had higher res, higher or more stable fps, better graphics etc.

Yet none of these has happened.
 

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The recent release pattern shows us devs lost their tools again. The res difference is so minimal. The XSX showing that it isn't that much powerful compared to the PS5.

A minimal higher dynamic res, but it can't have a better fps as well. The XSX would have a big advantage if it had higher res, higher or more stable fps, better graphics etc.

Yet none of these has happened.
How shokingly surprising with a GPU having 18% more compute ability and ~20% slower fixed function units and caches...
 
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I'm very much enjoying this game. It's a slow, atmospheric game with a strong narrative. The gameplay is secondary. They don't really ylmake games like this anymore. I get that young people nowadays want rainbow colors and frantic gameplay. This it ain't.
 

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wut? resolution mean GPU calculate more pixels ...resolution has been used as yardstick for establishing gpu disparity in the PC world for decades.
and there is that pattern we know the xsx GPU is more powerful since the consoles were released ..... that's the specs
the only difference is that this generation, unlike the PS4 launch generation, a certain part of gamers "who knows why" is deciding that specs and resolution no longer matter
What about FPS and other graphic setting? Can you show me that majestic power on series X reached in multiplat which wasn't just higher DRS? Because I could swear to havent seen a single game on series X with better graphic setting than ps5 outside Hitman 3. When indeed the same ps5 sometimes showed it. You continue to talk about power difference, significant and a pattern just referring to native pixels, (and in a measure that you need a DF analysis to notice it) meanwhile when some games show other advantages on ps5 doesn't count and doesn't define never a pattern. Lol. Because outside the CUs counts, the series X GPU has nothing more inside the chips compared the ps5. The funny thing about ps5 is, the whole GPU is faster where on series X is essentially more powerful just when CUs are involved.
 
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What about FPS and other graphic setting? Can you show me that majestic power on series X reached in multiplat which wasn't just higher DRS? Because I could swear to havent seen a single game on series X with better graphic setting than ps5 outside Hitman 3. When indeed the same ps5 sometimes showed it. You continue to talk about power difference, significant and a pattern just referring to native pixels, (and in a measure that you need a DF analysis to notice it) meanwhile when some games show other advantages on ps5 doesn't count and doesn't define never a pattern. Lol. Because outside the CUs counts, the series X GPU has nothing more inside the chips compared the ps5. The funny thing about ps5 is, the whole GPU is faster where on series X is essentially more powerful just when CUs are involved.
lowering the res and bringing it to the same level as the PS5 would have left room for graphical improvements seen that the performance differences while maintaining a higher resolution are always in the order of 0.something..probably the devs don't do it as I said before because it would cost them more time and money and the disparity is not so big that they can implement something more simply brute forcing .......and again we know exactly what theres inside the xsx GPU and what there isn't inside the PS5....is a year that we all know you still don't wanna see it
 
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Seems like an absolute trash port. Thanks, won't consider it.

(Alright, I wasn't going to anyway, it always seemed highly mediocre.)
 
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lowering the res and bringing it to the same level as the PS5 would have left room for graphical improvements seen that the performance differences while maintaining a higher resolution are always in the order of 0.something..probably the devs don't do it as I said before because it would cost them more time and money and the disparity is not so big that they can implement something more simply brute forcing .......and again we know exactly what theres inside the xsx GPU and what there isn't inside the PS5....is a year that we all know you still don't wanna see it
That's pure gold I missed it. Lol. What exactly is missed on ps5 GPU when it was designed as intended from the beginning, Mr engineer? Series X take what AMD readapt to them (with the same tech), what logic make you think it's better readapt an existent GPU instead to create it from the scratch.
 
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That's pure gold I missed it. Lol. What exactly is missed on ps5 GPU when it was designed as intended from the beginning, Mr engineer? Series X take what AMD readapt to them (with the same tech), what logic make you think it's better readapt an existent GPU instead to create it from the scratch.
because you thinking that Cerny invented a GPU ... when instead it took an older GPU and expanded its application. this is in fact the PS5 whether it suits you or not .. you can ask any hw engineer
 
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The description of it does sound like a very poor port though. A PS5 version should at worst run at a slightly lower resolution, and that's it.
I can't say anything about the PC and Xbox version as I haven't played it on that platform but on PS5 apart from frame hitching it's absolutely fine especially after the latest patch.
 

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because you thinking that Cerny invented a GPU ... when instead it took an older GPU and expanded its application. this is in fact the PS5 whether it suits you or not .. you can ask any hw engineer
This response just show your level of ignorance about the argument. Please don't venture in something you don't know next time, it's better.
 
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because you thinking that Cerny invented a GPU ... when instead it took an older GPU and expanded its application. this is in fact the PS5 whether it suits you or not .. you can ask any hw engineer

You are making up a straw man there and arguing against it. Nobody is stating what you said, so building up the straw man and taking a holier than thou stance against it feels odd.

PS5 like XSX is a semi-custom design Sony and MS collaborated with AMD on: they had existing designs, they have items in the roadmap, and other items further out. The job of the console architects is to collect the requirements for the console design (OS features, key hardware differentiators, fist and third party developers (as well as major middleware makers) requests for a HW transition, and an opinionated view of where console games need to go), etc… and select IP blocks from potential suppliers, ask for customisation, offer to finance items in the portfolio to bring them forward in the timeline, and potentially collaborate on the design on some elements or propose some new designs to some of the new partners (see the HW Kraken decoder they designed with Oodle/RAD).

There is an ocean between the clueless person sending an e-mail to AMD and he invented the concept of GPU’s.
 
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because you thinking that Cerny invented a GPU ... when instead it took an older GPU and expanded its application. this is in fact the PS5 whether it suits you or not .. you can ask any hw engineer
Must be very hard to see game after game performing better on a less powerful console than your precious lol.

Seriously tho, any game that performs the same on these consoles is a loss for the 'more powerful' hardware. Because the competitor is also available for $100 less.

And the pattern we have ALL seen is ps5 out performing xsx over and over in performance modes. Inexplicably.

The 'more powerful' argument is doing you no favors sonny. Just makes the brand look bad.
 
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Win... Loss.... Can we all grow up. It's fucking video-game consoles. One outperforming the other doesn't make any of yous a better human being or a winner in life. Grow the fuck up.
 

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This game was already shit on Xbox. I wouldn't pay for this, and especially not if this version is even worse.
 

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This response just show your level of ignorance about the argument. Please don't venture in something you don't know next time, it's better.
i think you proved time after time (with your dearest friends on the forum) that you are wrong .. you were after the amd leak after the specs reveal, after the dieshots, after the silences about lots f things ....I have no interest in being told by you if I understand it or not, as I told you go and ask locuza or anyone else who knows something about hw or go make ugly figure on Twitter like ethomaz did. the topic can end here. It's nice to have different opinions about something sometimes huh))
 
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When i was a lad, i thought perfect dark was awesome.

It ran like sludge.

When i was a lad, i thought Red Faction 2 was awesome.

Years later i learned is was a pariah title.

When i was a lad, I thought HaloCE ran like greased quicksilver.

It did not

When i was a lad, i thought the way everything pixellated a bit when i moved the camera in Thief 3 (which i also thought was awesome) looked high tech.

It was actually dynamic resolution or some other frame saving device.

Finally, when i was young i thought Deus Ex: Invisible War had the best PC graphics to date.

It did not.

So, kids, the moral of this story is, DF are not game reviewers, they are game analysers. And so are you, when you judge a game release by technical features.

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To be fair, it looks like a pretty half assed port to me.
 
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I like it a lot.
i am not sure why but the singing, sound from 1:10 onwards reminds me of a James bond song, i just can't put my finger on which one.

need to listen to a lot of Bond songs now Dammit. :messenger_heart:
 

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i think you proved time after time (with your dearest friends on the forum) that you are wrong .. you were after the amd leak after the specs reveal, after the dieshots, after the silences about lots f things ....I have no interest in being told by you if I understand it or not, as I told you go and ask locuza or anyone else who knows something about hw or go make ugly figure on Twitter like ethomaz did. the topic can end here. It's nice to have different opinions about something sometimes huh))
It's no matter to have different opinions. You stated ps5 hardware lacking compared the series X. I asked to you in what lacking an hardware designed from the scratch compared another one which simply uses the same components and just readapted it. As expected no response, clueless chats, blablablah about "I'm right you are wrong" saying practically nothing tech relevant. As always you prove to know nothing and just you feed your imagination with the PR MS words without mention any tech specs. The only think I said to you next time think again before start to talk about something you barely know.
 
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It's no matter to have different opinions. You stated ps5 hardware lacking compared the series X. I asked to you in what lacking an hardware designed from the scratch compared another one which simply uses the same components and just readapted it. As expected no response, clueless chats, blablablah about "I'm right you are wrong" saying practically nothing tech relevant. As always you prove to know nothing and just you feed your imagination with the PR MS words without mention any tech specs. The only think I said to you next time think again before start to talk about something you barely know.
and again you should know in what is lacking ...cu's ...render backend ...vrs, sfs, mesh shader ...CPU clock, bw, 1/4 of the CPU fpu...this are confirmed things. Meanwhile you have to support the console based on rumors theories you create on the forums because in fact you don't even objectively know how the geometry engine works.
In practice, as you can see in the report of the facts objectively it is you who do not know what you are talking about especially when you defend hw of which you do not know how it works because no one has ever released the specs (PS5 geometry engine or render backend). Having said that ... what do you say we forget the topic?
 
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and again you should know in what is lacking ...cu's ...render backend ...vrs, sfs, mesh shader ...CPU clock, bw, 1/4 of the CPU fpu...this are confirmed things. Meanwhile you have to support the console based on rumors theories you create on the forums because in fact you don't even objectively know how the geometry engine works.
In practice, as you can see in the report of the facts objectively it is you who do not know what you are talking about especially when you defend hw of which you do not know how it works because no one has ever released the specs (PS5 geometry engine or render backend). Having said that ... what do you say we forget the topic?
Edited the whole post. I'm not want to fall in your trap, there are things which are better on ps5 but I won't repeat the same useless stuff, believe whatever you want games will talk as always.
Man if The Medium will end to be better on ps5 in some way, oh God Lord would be interesting to hear any kinda of excuse will come to your mouth. The fact Elanalista hasn't already published anything, make me suspect it.
 
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