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[G-Fex]

I assume there's quite a few of you excited and hyped up since the Doom announcement so I'd thought you'd all appreciate some history


It's amazing I've always wanted to see the models these creatures were put into the game after. After seeing a MK behind the scenes video and how Goro was used it's so good to see this with Doom.

Mancubus

Spider Mastermind

Revenant

Archvile


Hi-Res links
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47857688@N08/5946779094/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47857688@N08/5926428955/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47857688@N08/5946806500/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47857688@N08/5946808690/sizes/o/in/photostream/

 

[NIGHT-]

Would love to own some of those models

 

[Zee-Row]

It be cool if they made an HD remake with the 2D models looking exactly like that.

 

[Mellahan]

I want to touch them. Just once.

 

[G-Fex]

I want to touch them. Just once.

those things are so old and sensitive they'd probably crumble into pieces

 

[Phediuk]

Imagine if they made a Neverhood/Skullmonkeys-style stop-motion Doom game with those models in it.

 

[mrkgoo]

Jesus those things are terrifying.

I wish I could play doom and doom 2more ways now.

I played doom a lot, but didn't play doom 2 as much.

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

That Mancubus...now I know what happened to Jake Armitage!

Excellent that Bethesda's preserving them. Time for reproduction figurines.

 

[RustyNails]

I wanted to see pinky, baron and imp too.

 

[Palette Swap]

Nice, I had never seen these. I hope they do take some serious inspiration from these original models for the new game.

I like the Revenant and feel it's the one that lost most in translation.

 

[Zee-Row]

Didn't even know that Archvile actually had a face until now. It looks blank in the actual game.

 

[Ban Puncher]

Where is the John Romero head on a spike model?

 

[G-Fex]

I wanted to see pinky, baron and imp too.

 

[Krejlooc]

Those are amazing, I never knew they were models. I thought someone just drew the sprites.

 

[komorebi]

Awesome, never seen these. I'd like to see a Doom game go back to the exact original demon designs.

 

[Yagharek]

Why does the spider mastermind only have 4 legs?

 

[Myansie]

Beautiful looking models.

Are you saying the sprites in the game are made by taking photos of these from 8 different angles? I always thought they were drawn.

 

[EBE]

who over at id did these? theyre seriously cool

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

Imagine if they made a Neverhood/Skullmonkeys-style stop-motion Doom game with those models in it.

You know, i'd kill for a 3d action game done Ray Harryhausen style.

 

[NEO0MJ]

I was hoping to see one for the Cyber-Demon.

 

[G-Fex]

Why does the spider mastermind only have 4 legs?

Not sure. She was never fast anyway so I'm assuming it just keeps her standing.

Beautiful looking models.

Are you saying the sprites in the game are made by taking photos of these from 8 different angles? I always thought they were drawn.

I assume it's part photos and animation.

They've got a lot of animation frames each.

For reference

 

[Adam_Roman]

It'd be amazing if they captured them with one of those 3D scanners and turned them into usable models.

 

[ElTopo]

Revnant and Mancubus look so much more impressive.

I don't collect figures but a model of the Spidermastermind would be really tempting.

 

[Poimandres]

I like the Revenant and feel it's the one that lost most in translation.

Yeah I agree. A lot of the Revenant details aren't really visible in game.

I think the Archvile is the best looking one though... such an awesome and terrifying design. Doom monsters are the best!

 

[Yoshichan]

CYBERDEMON

Gimme it!

 

[Indrid Cold]

Wow that's pretty cool. I'd buy a couple of those if they sold replicas. And not really expensive.

 

[Third Strike]

Always thought that the Revenant was wearing red trousers. Guess it was suppose to be flesh and blood. Though, it looks like his chest was censored/covered for some reason.

 

[ntropy]

i wonder why Revenant was absent in doom 64

 

[Yoshichan]

I always thought Revenant was the coolest one... And I always thought they wore red pants :lol

 

[Nemesis_]

i wonder why Revenant was absent in doom 64

From what I remember, Doom 64 didn't actually have the Commandos, Arch-Viles, Spiderdemons or the Revenants because of storage limitations.

Which was weird, because the ones that did make the cut were enlarged, textures were improved and sound quality was better than the original game.

So I guess they just weighed up the opportunity cost and went from there.

 

[jambo]

CYBERDEMON

Gimme it!

I think this is the real one

 

[Yoshichan]

I think this is the real one

The Ultimate God. These fuckers beat the shit out of the Mastermind.

 

[MrCunningham]

I really love that they went through all the trouble of creating real physical models to use as game sprites. It's really cool to see this stuff.

While not on the same level, the original Rise of the Triad kind of did the same thing:

The game sprites:

Tom Hall as El Oscuro:

Former 3D Realms/ Apogee moderator Joe Siegler as Heinrich Krist:

Another 3D Realms employee as the Low Guard:

Also youtube video footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUbuFR6tVrc

The remains of the NME which was inspired by the Daleks from Dr. Who:

Yeah, this one used mostly 3D Realm employee's dressed in dopey costumes, and there wasonly one hand crafted model. But I always kinda liked when games used digitized actors and physical models. There is a certian charm to it. The priginal Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 also had Goro, Motaro and Sheeva. which were all stop motion.

 

[Poimandres]

The Ultimate God. These fuckers beat the shit out of the Mastermind.

As an enemy? Fuck yeah.

As a creature design? I think the Spider Mind is much more terrifying and distinctive.

 

[Yoshichan]

As an enemy? Fuck yeah.

As a creature design? I think the Spider Mind is much more terrifying and distinctive.

Agreed 100%!

Did we ever get to fight her in the expansion of DOOM 3? I forgot, despite loving and playing the shit out of it (the superior gravity gun imo).

 

[playXray]

I like the Revenant and feel it's the one that lost most in translation.

Yeah, that flesh makes a lot of difference. The model actually looks like a real revenant/zombie, whereas in-game, it's basically a skeleton

 

[Amentallica]

Of those four the only one I didn't encounter in Doom 2 was the last one. That's because I didn't finish the game, but I plan to. I just feel like Doom 2 had considerably worse map layouts than the original. Most things seem misplaced despite intentionally being made that way. Eh

 

[Tain]

It'd be amazing if they captured them with one of those 3D scanners and turned them into usable models.

Seriously. Those models are way more detailed than I would have thought and would be awesome in a modern game.

 

[kogasu]

Wow, this is some seriously kick ass stuff! I honestly had no idea they used the "digitized model" method to make the Doom enemies. I always figured they were drawn or something.

 

[pottuvoi]

It'd be amazing if they captured them with one of those 3D scanners and turned them into usable models.

No need for 3D scanner.
Nice array of photos and photogrammetry software would be enough to get decent quality, especially after round with z-brush..

This is example with quite small model (~10cm) in non optimal lighting/photos no post processing, only decimation.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrlri8wnuaskpg2/Lohis_200k_4k.pdf (rotate with mouse.)

 

[jambo]

All of the guns in DOOM were done in a similar fashion.

They weren't modelled out of clay, but they were photographed and then tweaked on the PCs.

Kevin Cloud's hands are the ones in the game, as he was holding all of the weapons, including the brass knuckles, when they were photographed.

 

[KittenMaster]

I like to think that the use of clay and latex models (as well as plastic toys) are a lot of why DOOM sprites mesh so well into their game. Most other techniques in other games (like hand drawing the source image or taking pictures of people) tend to look really obvious in comparison.

 

[Poimandres]

Of those four the only one I didn't encounter in Doom 2 was the last one. That's because I didn't finish the game, but I plan to. I just feel like Doom 2 had considerably worse map layouts than the original. Most things seem misplaced despite intentionally being made that way. Eh

Archviles are definitely the best addition to the Doom 2 bestiary if you ask me. They were quite terrifying and can really change up the dynamics of a battle.

One of my favourite tricks was to kill enemies in doorways so they turn to gibs, then get an Archvile to revive them. If you do this they can walk through walls and can only be killed by splash damage.

 

[thesuperfunk]

Awesome thread to wake up to ... those models are so bad-ass!

 

[derFeef]

They don't make it like that anymore.
*sniffles*

 

[Refyref]

Those are really awesome.
By the way, this being Doom 2 and all, and by how it looks, that's an Arachnotron, not the Spider Mastermind.

EDIT: Or maybe not, that really is the Spider Mastermind.

EDIT2: It's not 100% like the Spider Mastermind too...

 

[Daffy Duck]

These are really cool! Loved the spider mastermind.

Sad no CyberDemon, he's my favourite Doom guy.

Care to post a link on the MK stuff you mentioned?

 

[140.85]

Much more creepy in this original state. Could easily be straight out of a hellraiser movie.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Those are amazing!

 

[biteren]

omg i am loving this BTC stuff for Doom! ive necer seen this before, please show more!!!