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Review The Outer Worlds review thread

Lort

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Your points had merit and were worth discussing, but your tone was aggressive and combative.
The discussion *was* about how much one can enjoying killing characters who represent an opposing political viewpoint... but yes my tone at times can offend it is the refined eloquent debating equivalent of “come at me bro”.

My point you rightly and fairly acknowledged and honestly i appreciate that, and your focus on correctness rather than yelling. You deserve that respect reciprocated.
 

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Paying taxes isn't socialism; neither is the police force or justice system or public education. At the core of socialism, goods are produced for use and not for profit or indirect use. There is no need for taxes in socialism because everything would be evenly distributed to the point nothing would need to be taxed. But this discussion is best left for elsewhere.
 
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Teslerum

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The discussion *was* about how much one can enjoying killing characters who represent an opposing political viewpoint... but yes my tone at times can offend it is the refined eloquent debating equivalent of “come at me bro”.

My point you rightly and fairly acknowledged and honestly i appreciate that, and your focus on correctness rather than yelling. You deserve that respect reciprocated.
A: A reviewer who is openly socialist (VICE) seriously complains that he can't use the scorched earth tactic against capitalists in every pertaining choice. So, you know, both sides here.

B: Stuart360 Stuart360 's comment was out of line (for me as well), but also clearly meant as a joke.

Edit: I do agree though, that its taken overhand so I'll stop commenting on it.

Just again mentioning

Choices in this game are morally grey and the game itself doesn't take sides. This has been confirmed by multiple people and outlets. Any discussion pertaining regarding nuances is best waited for AFTER release
 
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Stuart360

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My post triggered some poeple lol?, is this Gaf or Resetera?. It was clearly a stupid joke by me, meant to reference the potential wokeness of the game.

EDIT, Its also a videogame, not real life. Lets get some perspective here, especially involving a game that has moral choices and lets you kill almost anyone and effect the gameplay.
 
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Denton

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America is socialist... you pay taxes .. and the taxes pay police and justice.. and your education system .. which is presumably why you dont understand this. Good luck being free and enjoying liberty under your self chosen facist monopoly... wait .. isnt that the plot for outer worlds? Good luck with that.
Having government handle some stuff via taxes ain't socialism. I am talking about real socialism, the one that was attempted in my country in the 1950s and fucked it over until 1989.

That said even today, when we finally have at least SOME freedom, the government still takes 62% of every private sector employee's income every month to fund itself and its programs, which is still way too socialist. Particularly since government is also only made of people and suffers from all the corruption and red tape bureaucracy one can imagine.
 

Lort

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Having government handle some stuff via taxes ain't socialism. I am talking about real socialism, the one that was attempted in my country in the 1950s and fucked it over until 1989.

That said even today, when we finally have at least SOME freedom, the government still takes 62% of every private sector employee's income every month to fund itself and its programs, which is still way too socialist. Particularly since government is also only made of people and suffers from all the corruption and red tape bureaucracy one can imagine.
Whats it called when private entites pay no tax, have taxpayer funded write offs, dont get convicted for crimes and are subsidized by the average persons income tax... asking for a friend.

Besides only suckers pay tax ... so why are you?


Things the government provides include roads, justice, police, defense... and the above mentioned corporate welfare programs. Which do you think the government should save money on?

ps this is off topic unlike my original post which somewhat nailed the off topic posters AND related it back to the game / topic at hand .. if u want to debate this, do it elsewhere
 
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Grinchy

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Anyone know what's up with trying to preload the PC version with an existing game pass account?

The windows store tells me I can go ahead and play Gears 5 since I have the game pass, but for Outer Worlds, I need to be in some beta program? And then it directs me to give them money.

 
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They are talking about the Win10 app you can search in the Win10 store for as "Xbox(beta)". This is how you play Game Pass for PC. Looks like this...
 

Grinchy

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They are talking about the Win10 app you can search in the Win10 store for as "Xbox(beta)". This is how you play Game Pass for PC. Looks like this...
Wow, the store on Windows truly does suck. Thanks for the help, but even on the Xbox beta app, it tells me I still need game pass despite having it on the account already. Oh well, I'll either figure it out in the next couple days or just play it on the X.


edit- Ok so I figured it out. If your Microsoft account from setting up Windows 10 is different from the account info you use to log into Xbox Live, it just treats them separately and pretends you don't have game pass for PC despite having it on Xbox. So I'll have to get MS account info from the xbox live account so they match or some shit...

Honestly, for the makers of the world's most-used operating system, MS has no fucking clue how to do anything.
 
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Having government handle some stuff via taxes ain't socialism. I am talking about real socialism
? The stuff taxes pay for can be socialism, soooo some that "stuff" very much can be socialism. I don't get this whole "real socialism". That isn't a finite thing, that is something that simply varies by a degree of.


So some stuff in the United States fit that term, some stuff doesn't. The issue is many people are trying to make it a some blanket thing to define the United States ie Capitalist or Socialist etc.

America is neither 100% Socialist OR Capitalist. We have many industry that are profit driven ie Capitalist, we have many institutions in the United States that don't have that concept, Police, Fire Fighters, Garbage man, Libraries etc. Best way to deal with this is simply, stop trying to find a one word answer to solve the issue. America has never been 1 over the other, it has always been a mixture of both. I never get why folks hear a term and start bending it to fit this concept where the exact definition doesn't really support it MUST BE the only concept or something.

So we live in a hybrid set up, to argue we don't have it, is to question what Public Schools are, libraries, fire fighters, police officers etc. I mean dear god, the most funded SOCIALIST program in the world in is the United States with our Military. It belongs to no one person, is funded by our tax payer dollars, not created for the sake of any profit, made for the good of the country etc. The best way of understanding this, is to stop thinking it can ONLY BE 1 or the other. We have both.
 
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Wow, the store on Windows truly does suck. Thanks for the help, but even on the Xbox beta app, it tells me I still need game pass despite having it on the account already. Oh well, I'll either figure it out in the next couple days or just play it on the X.


edit- Ok so I figured it out. If your Microsoft account from setting up Windows 10 is different from the account info you use to log into Xbox Live, it just treats them separately and pretends you don't have game pass for PC despite having it on Xbox. So I'll have to get MS account info from the xbox live account so they match or some shit...

Honestly, for the makers of the world's most-used operating system, MS has no fucking clue how to do anything.
Worst thing is the app can be pain in the ass. I didn't notice that until it stopped seeing my Kingdom Come Deliverance saves after 40h of playing. It randomly made new folder for saves and ignored the original one. At least it turned out easy to fix, but this was nonsense. I ve seen people have many problems with the app.

By the way it claims my subscribtion is about to expire, but in the microsoft account it says when the next payment is. Now I am waiting on this date to see if I am screwed or not.
 
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Dont you just love when they make an app all like: "sir, its not ready! doesnt matter, let users test it and fix it on the go"
 

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Naive to the games industry - Just wondering, what would the sales of Outer Worlds need to be in order for BioWare to take note and adjust their current trajectory?

In other words would BioWare be looking at the sales of the Outer Worlds? Would low sales of Outer Worlds reinforce that Bioware need to keep employing a microtransaction model? :/
 
what would the sales of Outer Worlds need to be in order for BioWare to take note and adjust their current trajectory?
Is BioWare's real problem their business model or is it that their games feel like they are "designed by committee" these days? To me most of their recent games feel like there is no passion in what they're delivering, that they're too busy chasing popular opinion and are fixated on being inclusive and wokeness.
I don't think Anthem would be a better game for example if it had less mtx, less hand in your pocket but still a boring poorly designed mess
 

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Is BioWare's real problem their business model or is it that their games feel like they are "designed by committee" these days? To me most of their recent games feel like there is no passion in what they're delivering, that they're too busy chasing popular opinion and are fixated on being inclusive and wokeness.
I don't think Anthem would be a better game for example if it had less mtx, less hand in your pocket but still a boring poorly designed mess
Bioware's problem is that all the talent left and was replaced by diversity hires ;)
 

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"PS4 is god knows how much more powerful than the Xbox and Xbox S" - British Guy in video.

Digital Foundry they ain't but DF has fallen recently anyway with their turning a blind eye to anything/everything Nintendo.

Overall it was a good video, for the intents and purposes, it's nice to see that the game doesn't tank into a complete slideshow at any time.
 

Spukc

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As long as your not changing your accounts region and just change the timezone its completly legal. Also been done with other releases before.
won't work i had to change region like i did with gears 5
 

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Does anyone know if Microsoft actually has the rights to outerworlds or if the sequils. Will be xbox and pc only? If private division has rights in sure microsoft could do what from software did with demon souls. They released sequils under dark souls. Maybe next game is called outer frontier or something
 

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Does anyone know if Microsoft actually has the rights to outerworlds or if the sequils. Will be xbox and pc only? If private division has rights in sure microsoft could do what from software did with demon souls. They released sequils under dark souls. Maybe next game is called outer frontier or something
For sequels and any additional content to the franchise: Microsoft

Don't know what the situation would be on DLC's.
 
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VGEsoterica

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I am really NOT looking forward to the amount of my life I am going to lose to The Outer Worlds lol...but I know it's going to be SUBSTANTIAL
 
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I honestly knew very little about the game until about a week ago. I saw some screenshots that looked ugly on here and then saw some videos that I felt looked bad. Afterwards I found out it was obsidian so I allowed myself to overlook some of the jank I was seeing. Then I saw the ACG review and now I want the game.
 
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Spukc

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game is fun however

no hdr support
and the overall world looks kinda samey so far
and empty
some weird stutters rarely but still
 
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Will there not be an OT?? I thought I saw someone claim it.

Anyway, I haven't been this excited and ravenous about a game launch since The Elder Scrolls V.
 
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Anyone know what's up with trying to preload the PC version with an existing game pass account?

The windows store tells me I can go ahead and play Gears 5 since I have the game pass, but for Outer Worlds, I need to be in some beta program? And then it directs me to give them money.
Yes you need to get the Xbox game pass Beta
 
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