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The Overwatch Reddit Scandal

sjay1994

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eDzawK81Aw&feature=youtu.be

I know this is about another website and not GAF, but I just found this entire thing really gross.

Basic gist is 17 hours ago on the Overwatch subreddit, a user claimed that they had won a contest and was cheated out of a steam gift card by youtuber ohnickel. This thread exploded reaching not only the top of the overwatch reddit, but the top of the sites r/all as well. People had even offered to pay this guy money that he was supposed to win...

Except it was someone impersonating the contest winner. The real contest winner had received their prize.

This imposter generated an internet mob, where the youtuber was berated on twitter, as well as a mass of dislikes and subscriptions to his channel.

I feel people should at least see the video, because this guy was attacked based on false claims that people took as the truth.

Note: Please don't turn this thread into a Them vs Us discussion about websites. I feel this is a cautionary tale of internet mob mentality, because I doubt a lot of the people who felt sorry for the imposter should be associated with the bad conceptions people have with the site as a whole.
 

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sjay1994

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I was just about to post this. A horrible culmination of the culture online today...

Over 22,000 upvotes on a post that was completely fake. Mob mentality with no fact checking.

Not to mention that people offered to pay the imposter money that he wasn't owed. I didn't see this thread in motion on the OW subreddit, but looking through this fallout is depressing because people genuinely believed in him.

And the sad thing is, I would have probably would have believed him too if I read the thread before it was disproved.
 

godhandiscen

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Water is wet. Communities like Reddit, tumblr, GAF, etc thirst for these type of crusades. Fact checking be damned.
 

RenegadeXV8

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People should always be highly skeptical in these situations. It's almost always angling for free shit/money.

I've even seen it here on GAF where a guy will post a one paragraph sob story about how he doesn't have money for new games or whatever and in less than 10 posts there's already people offering him money.
 

True Fire

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I vividly remember the GamerGate mobs on the front page. It was hundreds of users attacking a poor woman over 4chan allegations. Gamers really showed their true face that week, even if they've gone back to "normal"
 

Aangster

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Always occurs on any social platform and also a major failure by moderators to verify accusation posts. They shouldn't be allowed in the first place given that it's too easy to lie and generate anger at 'failed' prize giveaways.
 

disappeared

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That's just awful.

GAF is virtually the only online community I subscribe to and it's because for the most part it's fairly moderate. I just can't stomach the extremism other communities seem to cater towards.
 

Alucrid

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17 hours you say. even detective gaf could have fingered this one
 

MKIL65

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That's what happens when you have a stupid Upvoting and Downvoting system. All the bandwagoning makes discussions pointless.
 

kuroshiki

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That's just awful.

GAF is virtually the only online community I subscribe to and it's because for the most part it's fairly moderate. I just can't stomach the extremism other communities seem to cater towards.

If you think mob mentality is nowhere to be found in neogaf, you are wrong. Always think twice and checks facts regardless of where you are.
 

Ryce

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The blanket hatred of Reddit is so amusing to me. Reddit has thousands of communities and hundreds of millions of users. There are obviously going to be some shitheads in the mix. I've never really experienced anything unpleasant in the four years or so that I've been a member there.
 
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The blanket hatred of Reddit is so amusing to me. Reddit has thousands of communities and hundreds of millions of users. There are obviously going to be some shitheads in the mix. I've never really experienced anything unpleasant in the four years or so that I've been a member there.

#NotAllRedditors?
 

sjay1994

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The blanket hatred of Reddit is so amusing to me. Reddit has thousands of communities and hundreds of millions of users. There are obviously going to be some shitheads in the mix. I've never really experienced anything unpleasant in the four years or so that I've been a member there.

Same. (but thats based on my experience)

There are a lot of communities on reddit, but it makes sense there are users who act in this manner, based on the sheer amount of users on the website.
 

pa22word

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If you think mob mentality is nowhere to be found in neogaf, you are wrong. Always think twice and checks facts regardless of where you are.

This. Gaf crusades get just as vicious and nasty too. It's something that's seemingly inherent in Internet culture, and it's gross.
 

Spukc

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Warning warning incomming outsider..
Y U HEF TO BE MAD?

IT'S JUST A GAME?
 

spindoctor

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17 hours you say. even detective gaf could have fingered this one

That was the whole point of the scam. Find a giveaway winner who doesn't have a reddit account and then impersonate him. Even the real winner would have had a brand new reddit account had he chosen to post about it.

The blanket hatred of Reddit is so amusing to me. Reddit has thousands of communities and hundreds of millions of users. There are obviously going to be some shitheads in the mix. I've never really experienced anything unpleasant in the four years or so that I've been a member there.

Agreed.
 

Mechazawa

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The worst part is that the fake dude might've scammed a few Reddit people out of some generosity before it all got debunked. Someone apparently tried to give him a Steam card, but smelled something was up when he asked for real money instead.
 

SolidSnakex

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It's amazing that it managed to get that far given that the guy who actually won the prize had a Twitter account where he'd tweeted to ohnickel several times and thanked him. Why didn't anyone bother to just check that?
 

dogpowerd

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You would think Reddit would have learned it's lesson after the Boston bomber screw up.
The internet makes people stupid and crazy.

I've never really experienced anything unpleasant in the four years or so that I've been a member there.

Try turning your monitor on. :p
 

sjay1994

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That was the whole point of the scam. Find a giveaway winner who doesn't have a reddit account and then impersonate him. Even the real winner would have had a brand new reddit account had he chosen to post about it.



Agreed.

And the means to scam make sense. "Who should I go to to demand my "prize?" Why not one of the largest overwatch communities on the internet".

It's amazing that it managed to get that far given that the guy who actually won the prize had a Twitter account where he'd tweeted to ohnickel several times and thanked him. Why didn't anyone bother to just check that?

It was done only after the initial gut reaction of feeling bad for the person.
 

Blam

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To be fair he mentions he lost a lot of subs, but I went, and checked on socialblade he actually gained subs that day.

Edit: I checked to be fair he actually got more subs that day then normal.
 

Laieon

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lol, this. Reddit is one of the worst sites on the internet.

Eh, depends on the subreddit. Plenty of great ones out there. I've personally gotten significantly more out of reddit then I have here, for example.
 

Gilby

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Eh, depends on the subreddit. Plenty of great ones out there. I've personally gotten significantly more out of reddit then I have here, for example.

It's crazy how neogaf looks down its nose at Reddit, which is one of the best sites on the internet. I've learned so much weightlifting, gymnastics, game design, art, and world/local news from reddit.
 
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It's crazy how neogaf looks down its nose at Reddit, which is one of the best sites on the internet. I've learned so much weightlifting, gymnastics, game design, art, and world/local news from reddit.

Yep, I spend a lot of time on Reddit, there really is a sub for everything.
 

BraXzy

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To be fair he mentions he lost a lot of subs, but I went, and checked on socialblade he actually gained subs that day.

More than likely the number he lost wasn't crazy, but just a lot compared to normal. Whereas now since the added exposure + proof of innocence has given a big boost in the positive.
 

Kangi

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A subreddit can be as decent a community as you can want it to be, but once stuff hits r/all all Hell is going to break loose.

Though r/all didn't make it blow up in the first place. That's on r/overwatch for wanting a witch hunt.
 

Veezy

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The blanket hatred of Reddit is so amusing to me. Reddit has thousands of communities and hundreds of millions of users. There are obviously going to be some shitheads in the mix. I've never really experienced anything unpleasant in the four years or so that I've been a member there.

Reddit is admined my an individual who lets the following exist on his site:
r/incels
r/truecels
r/burningkids
r/hurtinganimals
r/sexyabortions
r/MensRights
r/KotakuInAction

There's more, but I've neither the time nor the stomach to list them. Reddit has some subreddits that are decent, but the site is a hotbed for racism, misogyny, all forms of bigotry, and other incredible examples of online harassment. Spez takes zero accountability for his site's actions under the guise of "free speech" and even with blatant violations of their code of conduct are brought up his team refuses to act.

So, yeah, fuck Reddit.
 

Alias03

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Eh, depends on the subreddit. Plenty of great ones out there. I've personally gotten significantly more out of reddit then I have here, for example.

I agree and not sure where the hate it gets on here comes from. Obviously there is always bad examples of everything if you're looking for it. In my limited use of reddit I've found it to be pleasant and informative at times