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The PS5 Pro Is Not Pro Enough

Did The PS5 Pro Fail As A Pro Device?

  • Yes

    Votes: 242 47.9%
  • Depends On The Game

    Votes: 117 23.2%
  • No

    Votes: 146 28.9%

  • Total voters
    505
Whatever, still translated into a PS5 Pro version going far above 3~4x RT.

Not really sure what the hell we're doing here, nor why this Thread is still open aside from collecting nonsense and platform warring..

There could be many reasons why differences are bigger than they should be.

For example you have that Ant game on PS5 and PS5 Pro, devs decides to lock PS5 version to 30fps and run Pro version in 60fps? Why?! This is standard UE5 stuff, no PSSR or hardware RT support.

And game runs fine on PS5 class hardware in 60fps:

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Drop that resolution a bit below 1080p and boom, you have 60fps (or keep it like that with VRR on).
 
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If you're talking shit about it you probably don't own it.
I mean, when the Thread was opened there were plenty of reasons to question the system.

But now? You'd really have to be pretty shameless to publicly question what Pro is delivering.
And it's only going to get worse and worse for haters as the generation goes on.
 
I mean, when the Thread was opened there were plenty of reasons to question the system.

But now? You'd really have to be pretty shameless to publicly question what Pro is delivering.
And it's only going to get worse and worse for haters as the generation goes on.

They fixed PSSR problems and RT (when used) is competent. So yeah, a lot changed since 2024.

But for people that didn't buy before, current price is also not very good...
 
So your mask just fell off again.. got it.

Very disappointed. I just hope it's this Thread that got you all worked up for some reason, and you'll be back being an objective user soon.

If we already have two games showing you can have infinitely better IQ while having also FOUR RT features on top, you really want to talk about what could potentially be seen in games patches?


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Want me to the post the generational difference that is better IQ AND double the framerate AND RT features on top?

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Come on Xbox boy, don't be shy laughing in the darkness and join the discussion. I'm sure you'll be able to demonstrate how better IQ is more of an upgrade than better IQ + double the framerate + multiple RT on top.
Because, my friend, I dont Know if is worth arguing against someone individual opinion whose basis regarding what Xbox One X was and represented versus Xbox One/PS4 is certainly genuine.

"XBO X was only better IQ"

And the thing is, you're showing a certain deliberate forgetfulness regarding the Xbox One X and you're also referencing the PS5 Pro results, ignoring realities as others have already pointed out here. For starters, the vast majority of games on PS5 Pro with 60fps also have that mode on the base consoles. Or they have 40fps or 60fps VRR modes. But you insist on:

" PS5PRO offer IQ + graphics+ doble fps"

Furthermore, the situations are different, and the needs or interests of developers regarding where to use the extra power, rather than just the extra processing power, have changed.

With the Xbox One X, you had 4x or more extra power in some cases compared to the base consoles. And this extra power wasn't just always demonstrated in a MASSIVE improvement in image quality (and therefore image stability) and general framerate, but also (where your selective memory or forgetfulness comes into play) in games that sometimes implemented 60fps modes not found on Xbox One/PS5. Not to mention that there were also games that, in addition to image quality, image stability, and a better overall framerate, offered graphical improvements VS PS4/XBO (shadows, anti-aliasing, SAO, AF, subsurface scatering, extra vegetation, LOD etc.). That 4x or 5x processing power could have been used to improve purely graphical and visual aspects. The priorities were simply different.

It's as simple as jogging your memory and remembering...... And, BIG fact there, all of that at half the price or less of the PS5 Pro.

So, to answer the question in this thread, is the PS5 Pro "Pro" enough? Well, it's an individual matter based on each person's needs and requirements, considering the price and the results. That's why it would never occur to me to discuss or give my opinion on whether buying a PS5 Pro is a good or bad idea.
Interestingly, the question was asked before the release of PSSr2, and look how the decisions had already been made 🙇🤷.


And finally, regarding the question of whether the PS5 Pro offers greater or better improvements than the Xbox One X at the time like i think you deffend... Well, it's what I stated at the beginning. You just need to remember what it actually offered... and at what price.

I certainly think that your arguments are not being fair and correct regarding what XBO X represented and, in fact, that is the reason and basis of my response to your post with a 😂 and not so much whether for you or others what PS5 Pro offers compared to PS4/XSX is better or worse (as a "Pro" console) than what XBO X offered compared to XBO/PS4 at the time.
 
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They fixed PSSR problems and RT (when used) is competent. So yeah, a lot changed since 2024.

But for people that didn't buy before, current price is also not very good...
True.

Every single hardware current price is not very good.

Because, my friend, I dont Know if is worth arguing against someone individual opinion whose basis regarding what Xbox One X was and represented versus Xbox One/PS4 is certainly biased, self-serving, and partial with respect to what it actually represented.

"XBO X was only better IQ"

And the thing is, you're showing a certain deliberate forgetfulness regarding the Xbox One X and you're also referencing the PS5 Pro results, ignoring realities as others have already pointed out here. For starters, the vast majority of games on PS5 Pro with 60fps also have that mode on the base consoles. Or they have 40fps or 60fps VRR modes. But you insist on:

" PS5PRO offer IQ + graphics+ 60fps"

Furthermore, the situations are different, and the needs or interests of developers regarding where to use the extra power, rather than just the extra processing power, have changed.

With the Xbox One X, you had 4x or more extra power in some cases compared to the base consoles. And this extra power wasn't just always demonstrated in a MASSIVE improvement in image quality (and therefore image stability) and general framerate, but also (where your selective memory or forgetfulness comes into play) in games that sometimes implemented 60fps modes not found on Xbox One/PS5. Not to mention that there were also games that, in addition to image quality, image stability, and a better overall framerate, offered graphical improvements VS PS4/XBO (shadows, anti-aliasing, SAO, AF, subsurface scatering, etc.). That 4x or 5x processing power could have been used to improve purely graphical and visual aspects. The priorities were simply different.

It's as simple as jogging your memory and remembering...... And, BIG fact there, all of that at half the price or less of the PS5 Pro.

So, to answer the question in this thread, is the PS5 Pro "Pro" enough? Well, it's an individual matter based on each person's needs and requirements, considering the price and the results. That's why it would never occur to me to discuss or give my opinion on whether buying a PS5 Pro is a good or bad idea.
Interestingly, the question was asked before the release of PSSr2, and look how the decisions had already been made 🙇🤷.


And finally, regarding the question of whether the PS5 Pro offers greater or better improvements than the Xbox One X at the time like i think you deffend... Well, it's what I stated at the beginning. You just need to remember what it actually offered... and at what price.

I certainly think that your arguments are not being fair and correct regarding what XBO X represented and, in fact, that is the reason and basis of my response to your post with a 😂 and not so much whether for you or others what PS5 Pro offers compared to PS4/XSX is better or worse (as a "Pro" console) than what XBO X offered compared to XBO/PS4 at the time.
I appreaciate the response.
You didn't get the context right, in regards to Cyberpunk achievements being contrasted with One X greatest achievement in the system lifetime, and there are certainly many things I would vehemently disagree, but putting effort is certainly miles better than dropping an emoji and I appreaciated your post.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, as PS5 Pro is delivering for me FAR more than any other mid-gen refresh console has ever done for me.
 
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