SirPenguin
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Jackson said:
I'm trying to get my CompSci professor to do just that. Honestly, this game is basically the very DEFINITION of object oriented programming, and it'd be dirt easy to teach the concept via Scribblenauts
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The Scribblenauts Official Thread of imagination revelations
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I'm trying to get my CompSci professor to do just that. Honestly, this game is basically the very DEFINITION of object oriented programming, and it'd be dirt easy to teach the concept via Scribblenauts
green_focus
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Jackson said:
You know, it's when I over think things that I get slowed down. Thanks for the idea.
lordoftherink
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Wouldn't it just project a black screen in the shape of the DS? I thought special transparent paper with the words printed on it had to be used for a projecter.Jackson said:
autobzooty
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How did you guys beat 3-2 action stage? I feel like I did it in a stupid way and I wanna know how others did it. I basically just
snagged the ice cube with a fishing rod before it fell into the lava, and then used an ice pick to get the starite out.
I hadn't noticed the bullet thing, but I mean, I'm not altogether sure it was meant with deep significance. Say, t-rexes can easily defeat God. Apparently a lot of stuff easily kills God. Should millions of Christian/whatever people be offended because God isn't as strong as a T-Rex or longcat in this game? God defeats Satan, well what about Satanists?Jak140 said:
I guess I just don't see too many people caring about exactly how strong God or a priest or a rabbi is, but maybe I'm wrong.Hawkian, he was saying that priests apparently survive bullets but rabbis don't, which is potentially offensive to Jews I guess?
lordoftherink, I think Jackson may have been referring to an overhead projector with a camera. My school had some, as opposed to the transparent overhead projector kind.
Jak140 said:
Why stop at rabbis and imams? Shamans aren't, nor are Sheikhs, nor are actual deities like God and Zeus.
It's either a glitch, an inside-joke, or something necessary for a programming conceit. Either way, I think you may be reading too much into it, and if you see a priest and need to get him dead, it's possible.
lordoftherink
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I didn't know such things existed, hmm, now I'm curious as to what an overhead spawns in ScribblenautsBlizzard said:
You edited since I replied. I was just about to post and point out that Zeus and God spawn an exactly identical character, which again should offend Muslims, Christians, and uh...ancient Romans I guess?Jak140 said:
I'm saying I don't know why they chose to make a priest immune to chainsaws. I just don't see it as a deeply philosophical thing considering how random some of the other balances are. *shrug* I'm not a member of a religion that has priests and I guess I don't find it very offensive, but maybe you or others do.
More importantly, I still don't know how to get acid out of a bottle, nor how to mix chemicals in a cauldron.
See http://www.clas.ufl.edu/llc/images/225CAMERA.jpglordoftherink said:
Hawkian said:
My point is that only the holy man of Christian faith is immune to any violent attack (magical transformations don't count) while holy men of other faiths aren't. Saying god isn't immune is irrelevant as it is a generic "god" not "God" as Zeus spawns the same character.
I can't really imagine any situation which would require this from a programming standpoint either, though a programmer can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Blizzard said:
No, because even in the bible "God" and a "god" are considered different things.
Then how come when they put actual white paper on the overhead it shows up as a black space?Hawkian said:I used to think this too! But the only purpose of special transparency paper is that it can be written on, wiped, and used again.
The more you know *
Yes, but Scribblenauts doesn't respect capital letters so you can't say for sure. And Satan is definitely very specific, ya know? The God figure is pretty stereotypical, but I guess it's somewhat fitting for Zeus too.Jak140 said:
Do you mind if I ask if you have been personally offended by this, or if you are just stating it as a theoretical question?
Jak140 said:
My feelings on this are as follows:
1. I could point out that priests are pretty specific to Catholicism and maybe some branches of other religious divisions, but I just checked and pastors are also immune to chainsaws.
2. At least one of the main Scribblenauts developers was Christian, and he left the company after the game was finished to help with a church. He felt that was the right thing for him to do, and I respect him for that. I have no idea if he was involved in the word priest/pastor being different, but I suppose it is possible that one of the developers did decide to make god/zeus more powerful than satan/devil, make atheists afraid of god, and pastors/priests not chainsaw-able.
*edit 3.0* Just checked, cynics are apparently identical in appearance and behavior to atheists.
cooljeanius
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lol, I did that interaction myself but never bothered to try doing anything with the coin. I think it died to a nuke but I'm not sure...SirPenguin said:
green_focus
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lordoftherink said:
I was thinking of the projection cameras you can get that work like an overhead projector, but will magnify whatever you put underneath them and then project the video in real time on the screen. the trick will be finding a way to keep everything secure...
I came into this thread to hear heartwarming tales of imagination while I wait for my copy to be delivered
Instead I find people getting butthurt because the tiny animated priest cant be shot but the rabbi can.
Maybe its because priests are known to keep a bible over their heart which stops bullets at key moments.
Or maybe people need to calm the fuck down and stop assuming everyone is out to get them. Between this and the Kotaku "OMG SAMBO!" shit we're going to get FoxNews all up in our Scribblenauts by the weekend.
Instead I find people getting butthurt because the tiny animated priest cant be shot but the rabbi can.
Maybe its because priests are known to keep a bible over their heart which stops bullets at key moments.
Or maybe people need to calm the fuck down and stop assuming everyone is out to get them. Between this and the Kotaku "OMG SAMBO!" shit we're going to get FoxNews all up in our Scribblenauts by the weekend.
Yep, I already linked http://www.clas.ufl.edu/llc/images/225CAMERA.jpg as the camera one.Hawkian said:
I just tried antimatter, and it worked quite well for getting rid of the capitalist's leftover coin of doom.
Okay, I gotta do more testing. Capitalist loses to communist, and thieves kill capitalists, but thieves beat communists. So anyway, if I get that weird coin from a capitalist losing to a communist, then antimatter doesn't destroy it...unless I also created an antiparticle or antiquark (same icon) and sucked that into the hole as well. Maybe it's just any two objects, I'm about to test.
SirPenguin
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You know, at first I disagreed with the whole priest/pastor thing. I figured it was a bug or some other thing. But the object "church" cannot be destroyed. Neither can a "synagogue", however. I think it makes sense as to why they made the choices they did
edit: To clarify, I mean that it makes sense to prevent certain structures and creatures from dieing when they have the possibility to deeply offend. Yeah, some people/groups are way too sensitive, but it's better than bad publicity. As to why rabbi and co. don't get the same treatment...well, it was probably just overlooked, given the protection they gave to synagogue
edit: To clarify, I mean that it makes sense to prevent certain structures and creatures from dieing when they have the possibility to deeply offend. Yeah, some people/groups are way too sensitive, but it's better than bad publicity. As to why rabbi and co. don't get the same treatment...well, it was probably just overlooked, given the protection they gave to synagogue
Grady Durden
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Ca1amity said:
This.
Blizzard said:
I don't follow any religion, but I feel that if they were going to make a holy man from one religion immune, they should have made every person in the game immune or no one at all. It bothers me in the sense that to allow one to violently kill one kind of holy man or even a baby, but not a priest implies that one action is "okay" while the other is not. It introduces a twisted sense of morality into the game.
gah beaten
Okay, I was trying to see it your way up til now, but are you kidding me?
In this game I can torture a priest for hours, throw him into a black hole, turn him into a frog or a ghoul and cremate him, or just surround him with demons and let him tremble in fear for all eternity.
WHERE is there ANY sense of morality?
Okay, I was trying to see it your way up til now, but are you kidding me?
In this game I can torture a priest for hours, throw him into a black hole, turn him into a frog or a ghoul and cremate him, or just surround him with demons and let him tremble in fear for all eternity.
WHERE is there ANY sense of morality?
SirPenguin
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Blizzard said:
Neat. It seems "dark matter" is the stronger version of black hole. It can kill a priest, no less! Problem solved :lol
Grady Durden
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This game is harder than I thought it would be.
Or I am just not as smart as I thought I was!
Hawkian said:
Those are all fantasy attacks though and have no bearing in the real world. All I'm saying is that affording a certain protection to certain NPCs implies that one action is okay while another isn't. Which leads to some strange moral implications when you consider that you can shoot a baby or rabbi to death, but not a priest.
Black holes and dark matter both kill priests and both get rid of the coin of doom. To get rid of the glitched coin though, something else has to be sucked in at the same time. No idea why.SirPenguin said:
Also I just turned a priest into a frog and then had a snake eat him. Unfortunately snake charmers just kill snakes? And then I interacted with the snake charmer and he died. Not sure why that happens. :lol
I have a baby happily surviving an iron maiden. Is there a trick to it? Make sure you empty out the skeleton before you start, though.
And as people have been pointing out, there are many other immoral things you can do (steak + baby + lion, pointed out by 5th cell). Or me chainsawing people, or blowing people up. I understand the point that you think that priests should have been weaker, since you feel there shouldn't be a religious bias by the developers, but I don't think that the game encourages morality at all, unless you're trying for humanitarian or savior merits. :lol It's filled with stealing and killing and such.Jak140 said:
Jak140 said:
Actually a lot of characters were immune, baby god, death, super hero, priest, rabbi, etc... but the problem was you could give them a weapon and they'd own anyone infinitely.
So we made god/death/etc have high HP and religious characters run away from a fight, so you couldn't use them to own stuff. However obviously some didn't keep their immunity. Oh well... Have you seen the the number of small glitches in this game? Vegetarian eats meat, zomg!
I'm pretty sure mosque, synagogue and church all are immune buildings though.
Please understand this is a game that is IMPOSSIBLE TO QA, we made this game in 1 year.
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What ever happened to the avatar request thread? I'd love a Scribblenauts Aaron Rodgers!
Epic Tier 3 Engineer
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Why can't we talk about cool things you can do in the game now? Please?
Between this and the Orson Scott Card thing, I think I hate GAF.
Between this and the Orson Scott Card thing, I think I hate GAF.
Dude, I'm trying, but between trying not to get killed by the freaking Jersey Devil and not being able to figure out some suitable toxin to poison fish with, I'm busy. :lolEpic Tier 3 Engineer said:
Grady Durden
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The main reason I bought this game was after watching the first hands-on impression videos I realized that you created a game that the players are coming up with solutions never previously thought of to the puzzles you created. That is awesome!Jackson said:Please understand this is a game that is IMPOSSIBLE TO QA, we made this game in 1 year.
Edit: PS: Thank you
Blizzard, the moral implications are only introduced if certain actions are purposefully allowed while others aren't, that is if the game designer is enforcing a sense of morality on the game by giving some NPCs certain protections for moral reasons. Which in this case would be a bizarre sense of ethics if done on purpose as I mentioned above. There would be no problem if no protections were in place at all because then there would be no implication that only certain actions are taboo.
Thanks for responding, I'm glad to hear it was unintentional, my main concern was if it was done on purpose. Also, it's cool to hear some background on the development process. It's definitely an awesome game, regardless. I hope you get to put even more crazy interactions in the sequel
Jackson said:Actually a lot of characters were immune, baby god, death, super hero, priest, rabbi, etc... but the problem was you could give them a weapon and they'd own anyone infinitely.
So we made god/death/etc have high HP and religious characters run away from a fight, so you couldn't use them to own stuff. However obviously some didn't keep their immunity. Oh well... Have you seen the the number of small glitches in this game? Vegetarian eats meat, zomg!
I'm pretty sure mosque, synagogue and church all are immune buildings though.
Please understand this is a game that is IMPOSSIBLE TO QA, we made this game in 1 year.
Thanks for responding, I'm glad to hear it was unintentional, my main concern was if it was done on purpose. Also, it's cool to hear some background on the development process. It's definitely an awesome game, regardless. I hope you get to put even more crazy interactions in the sequel