Garmonbozia
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So I just finished the "Parade" chapter.
Who is the girl at the end? She's the one that is mentioned at the secret Zaibatsu files?
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The Silver Case |OT| Kill The Past
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Lord Ghirahim
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Man, anyone else have a hard time with Japanese names? I'm not used to names like Nakategawa... but the characters themselves are rubbing off on me, so that's good, even if I have a tough time understanding exactly what's happening.
Also, damn is that UI slick! Then again, if the entire game is kinda spent in menus, you oughta make them look good.
Also, damn is that UI slick! Then again, if the entire game is kinda spent in menus, you oughta make them look good.
cj_iwakura
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Garmonbozia
Member
Big Dick.
cj_iwakura
Member
Finished demo 2, and damn, that Syndrome call back is real.
cj_iwakura
Member
If you like modern day crime drama with a healthy dose of WTF, then yes.
I can't think of any other game, much less a VN, that has animated and live action segments.
OnionPowder
Member
Bought this game pretty much just to support the developer. What an awesome release.
I'll try and play a bit before the hurricane hits.
I'll try and play a bit before the hurricane hits.
If you say so, I'll trust you. How long is it?
cj_iwakura
Member
10 hours or so. Bear in mind the text is very dense, lots of layered meanings and confusing events that won't make sense at first.
If ever.
Rave on, cj.
Heh, fitting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHPuzyh8iE It says it was about the sequel but it's been so long since being in that chatroom (and also not understanding Japanese).
I get the feeling GhM splinted TSC by using the lighter & investigative side to make FSR and the darker & violent side with K7.
Using different mediums to tell a story. Rarely this is ever utilized and it fascinates me so much;seems like Killer 7 was just a sampling of what TSC has to offer in regards of this.
Heh, fitting.
cj_iwakura
Member
I'm fascinated by some elements of the UI in the DS version, but it looks like the top screen was just going to be whatever film window was active at the time, not switching positions like it's meant to.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Really impressed by the UI and overall aesthetic to this game. Very cool stuff so far.
ArclightBorealis
Member
Finished up Yume and then completed all of Spectrum. The inspiration for killer7's varying stories per episode is pretty clear from this game as it does the same thing, not just in the UI presentation but also the tone and subject matter. I really enjoyed this one a lot, it felt like it had a lot of heart to it. The main case itself had some pretty emotional points and character developments, but it was broken up with some fun moments like
and
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I could also see how the central location of this chapter, the apartment complex, was like a precursor to Flower, Sun, and Rain in its progression. The same routine each days, getting a little bit more of the whole area each time, talking to everyone to trigger the next point. At least unlike FSR it didn't go on longer than it needed to. I even appreciated that you weren't being railroaded super hard in terms of where to go and how to investigate like in Decoyman, made it feel a little bit more like a traditional adventure game.
Game continues to absolutely impress. At the rate it's going it might top killer7 and No More Heroes 1 for me as far as favorite Suda 51 games go. Although my one hope is that the rest of the Report chapters don't go on for as long as Yume did. As much as there's some good additional story bits in there, the interactivity of it is pretty limited and monotonous.
Sumio and Kusagi's ongoing stakeout,
the 100 Question Kumite held by Morikawa
I could also see how the central location of this chapter, the apartment complex, was like a precursor to Flower, Sun, and Rain in its progression. The same routine each days, getting a little bit more of the whole area each time, talking to everyone to trigger the next point. At least unlike FSR it didn't go on longer than it needed to. I even appreciated that you weren't being railroaded super hard in terms of where to go and how to investigate like in Decoyman, made it feel a little bit more like a traditional adventure game.
Game continues to absolutely impress. At the rate it's going it might top killer7 and No More Heroes 1 for me as far as favorite Suda 51 games go. Although my one hope is that the rest of the Report chapters don't go on for as long as Yume did. As much as there's some good additional story bits in there, the interactivity of it is pretty limited and monotonous.
Don Friday
Member
I'm glad to see Tobias Funke still getting work.
It's kind of surreal to be playing this after years of "studying" it from afar as just a reference point to all the other games that were localized before it.
Would love to see Suda really dig in and do something similar again without it having to be a brawler.
It's kind of surreal to be playing this after years of "studying" it from afar as just a reference point to all the other games that were localized before it.
Would love to see Suda really dig in and do something similar again without it having to be a brawler.
Yeah, I'm liking it but I had to turn the overall sound down and if it wasn't for the good music I'd honestly play the game on mute. Actually I need to see if I just turn off the sound effects if that'll fix it. I have no idea how this game got through QA without a single person saying "this text sound effect would be fine here and there, but for every line in a freaking visual novel this is insanity and not in a good Suda51 insanity way but in a I need to take some tylenol because I have a headache way"
cj_iwakura
Member
Have a giveaway.
Knowing almost nothing about this aside from it being a Suda51 game and a crime drama visual novel, I jumped in tonight. Finished the first case and I'm loving everything about it so far (visuals and music especially).
Did not expect exploration or puzzle elements at all either so that was a pleasant surprise. Can't wait to continue on and see what else this game has in store.
Only complaint so far would be the controls are a little wonky.
Did not expect exploration or puzzle elements at all either so that was a pleasant surprise. Can't wait to continue on and see what else this game has in store.
Only complaint so far would be the controls are a little wonky.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Games fucking awesome. Feels so good
Visualante2
Member
Initial impressions are positive enough that I'm just going to give it a go. Bummer that there weren't more reviews around at launch.
was anyone able to playthrough flower sun and rain?
i bought this game for ds only to realise, that the riddles are impossible to solve.
there were no fucking clues and the internet didnt give me any solutions.
i bought the LE of the silver case, but i hope its not as fucked as flower sun and rain.
i bought this game for ds only to realise, that the riddles are impossible to solve.
there were no fucking clues and the internet didnt give me any solutions.
i bought the LE of the silver case, but i hope its not as fucked as flower sun and rain.
indigo-cyclops
Member
I did; there's FAQs on the net. I used one a few times if I was stuck. Did you check GameFAQs?
But yea so far this it is more visual novel and a game with puzzles like FSR. I'm early tho.
Urban Scholar
Member
Oh yes, great OP. I ordered the limited edition but I may just play the steam version in the mean time while I wait. Or I might just wait.
I heard the OST by Masafumi Takada is very well composed.
I heard the OST by Masafumi Takada is very well composed.
When you get to the movement segments pressing "S" will let you to save.
I played FS&R years ago, but as far as I remember all the answers to the riddles are already in the game, in the Lospass digital guide you have as one of your items. It's quite easy and really a clever game: all the solutions are written in there, but you don't notice it until you know the questions.
I'm super happy about the release of The Silver Case in English, i'll have to finish another game before to play it, but already bought my copy from Playism, please support this game if you want a chance to see other Suda51 japan-exclusive games to be translated in the future!
RadioHeadAche
Member
I preordered the physical release. I'll be waiting for it to play.
cj_iwakura
Member
There's a very good LP for FSR here:
http://lparchive.org/Flower-Sun-and-Rain/
Also, I did a translation of the original PS2 OP(which is amazing) that I'm pretty proud of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CY9vZVBxZU
For anyone who hasn't played FSR and is considering it before TSC: don't.
At the halfway point, the TSC ties start coming full throttle.
wow, thanks for the tips, might give it another try.
and are there really THAT kind of ties in the game? i know there were some similarites, but like coming full throttle? funny.
Visualante2
Member
So from case 00:
I feel like I'm missing a beat or two.
Sound design is as good as ever. I've decided to play with the original music but everything else upgraded. The typing sound is still kind of annoying, though. I think it's something Grasshopper has always excelled at. I think there's probably two plays in this to see both the original and the HD upgrades.
I'm not entirely sold on the cinematic presentation yet. There's a weird flow to the whole thing. The passage of time, distance and urgency of the scenarios at times seem to work against each other.
it seems like these two veterans from the silver case parted ways, each leading up divisions in different departments in different districts. and this lunatic has brought them together again?
Sound design is as good as ever. I've decided to play with the original music but everything else upgraded. The typing sound is still kind of annoying, though. I think it's something Grasshopper has always excelled at. I think there's probably two plays in this to see both the original and the HD upgrades.
I'm not entirely sold on the cinematic presentation yet. There's a weird flow to the whole thing. The passage of time, distance and urgency of the scenarios at times seem to work against each other.
cj_iwakura
Member
Returning characters. Key get!
Visualante2
Member
Uh, yeah so.. the game doesn't actually explain that the magnifying glass solves the puzzle for you. So yeah bear that in mind I guess.
Got my LRG code, yay.
Is there a "canon" save file name (which I guess is the protagonist's)? Seeing my name, Jonathan, between all these Japanese names doesn't really work for me.
I don't really get the logic behind the puzzles. So yeah, you've got that auto solve button, and I too didn't realize that's what it did, solve the puzzle for you. I thought this was actually part of solving them somehow. Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
And I wish the character names next to their dialogue didn't disappear so quickly, it's gonna be a pain for me to remember them like this.
Is there a "canon" save file name (which I guess is the protagonist's)? Seeing my name, Jonathan, between all these Japanese names doesn't really work for me.
I don't really get the logic behind the puzzles. So yeah, you've got that auto solve button, and I too didn't realize that's what it did, solve the puzzle for you. I thought this was actually part of solving them somehow. Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
And I wish the character names next to their dialogue didn't disappear so quickly, it's gonna be a pain for me to remember them like this.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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For those of you playing the PC version, the desktop icon is pretty rubbish, right? Well I've made a transparent icon you can apply. Just put it through an online PNG to ICO converter and bam, you have a more suitable desktop icon to apply to the shortcut!
Sorcerer Supreme
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anyone know how to look down on a controller?
ArclightBorealis
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I believe that is the case. I just finished the chapter myself, and even dug back up cj's "Kill the Past" thread from a while back as that has information pertaining to what it was about.
This is basically the first main chapter post Lunatics that dives directly into the Kill the Past motif. So much so I thought that this was another thing related to Moonlight Syndrome before remembering that the whole point of Lunatics was to "kill" that part of Suda's history so that the Silver Case's main thread could start off properly. It's just Sumio dealing with his past by orchestrating the death of a Zaibatsu and getting revenge on a small town that lynched him and his friends for helping a girl, which is the person shown fading away in the ending cutscene as the town gets wiped out. Also the same girl from the opening and the "fairytale" Sumio tells Kusabi.
The thing I took away most from this chapter besides that was that Sumio and his friends' physical trauma fits with the see/hear/speak no evil theme that gets reused again in killer7. Slowly more of the themes and symbols in the other Suda51 games are making sense.
The thing I took away most from this chapter besides that was that Sumio and his friends' physical trauma fits with the see/hear/speak no evil theme that gets reused again in killer7. Slowly more of the themes and symbols in the other Suda51 games are making sense.
LiamExe
Member
Oops, the magnifying glass thing skips the puzzle completely? I figured it was just a tutorial thing at the time and didn't realise I was skipping through a chunk of actual puzzles. ;_;
Well, I only used it in the first chapter before realising. Did I put myself out of getting any achievements by doing that or are all the hidden ones story related?
Well, I only used it in the first chapter before realising. Did I put myself out of getting any achievements by doing that or are all the hidden ones story related?
AHA-Lambda
Member
ok, this may sounds crazy but I just started it.
Is there no controls or options menu? How are you supposed to save or quit the game?
Is there no controls or options menu? How are you supposed to save or quit the game?
The magnifying glass being unexplained is the stupidest thing ever.
shoulder buttons and triggers are used to look up and down.
They'll tell you how to access those menus in the first interactive section.
cj_iwakura
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For those of you playing the PC version, the desktop icon is pretty rubbish, right? Well I've made a transparent icon you can apply. Just put it through an online PNG to ICO converter and bam, you have a more suitable desktop icon to apply to the shortcut!
Very nice, but nitpick: it's from 25 Ward.
Maybe it's possible to use a variation of these?
I also fell for the magnifying glass. Should be pretty obvious what it does after one click, though.
I had fun solving those cipher puzzles in the JP version, haha.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Very nice, but nitpick: it's from 25 Ward.
Had no idea. New to this game after playing Flower, Sun & Rain and Killer 7! How about these instead? 256x256 so they scale up and down automatically when converted to an ICO and applied to the shortcut.
cj_iwakura
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Had no idea. New to this game after playing Flower, Sun & Rain and Killer 7! How about these instead? 256x256 so they scale up and down automatically when converted to an ICO and applied to the shortcut.
I like the second one.
I might still use your original because of how badass it looks.
Just finished Lunatics. Sheesh, I know what happened at the end of Moonlight Syndrome and even I'm confused. Can only imagine how someone else feels, haha.
I'll elaborate a little:
Everyone who dies in Case 0 is from Moonlight Syndrome. Suda's wiping the slate clean.
AHA-Lambda
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Just finished chapter 0 and chapter 1, so a good 2-3 hours of playtime so far.
I'll be honest, I haven't the bloody foggiest as to what is going on...
I'll be honest, I haven't the bloody foggiest as to what is going on...
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