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boo

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Jun 8, 2004
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Neogaf should be about the games as far as I am concerned. This is way I started reading (and sometimes posting) here all those years ago. Finally back to the real Neogaf. Thanks.
 

Seanlole

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Mar 19, 2013
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i`m here for the games, the important videogame events and the good meltdowns , gifs and good forum moments related to videogames. nothing more, nothing else.

this has been for this 4 years as a registrered user and more than 6 as a guest.

i`ll keep coming for this and for this only.

although, your previous behavior is not forgotten and i don`t endorse it.
 

Afrodium

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Apr 21, 2009
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I started lurking here in the Smash Dojo days and have been a member here for like 8 years. I loved this forum and community and it's sad to see it end like this. This is a terrible direction for the board and a disgusting response to what has happened in the past few days. I'm gone.
 

Kabuki Waq

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MULTIPLE witnesses have came out against him for the ass grabbing incident not long ago. Dude had a well documented sexual predator history with multiple witnesses. They just don't post at GAF for obvious reasons.


This is honestly news to me......
 

ramuh

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Jun 7, 2013
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The silver lining here, is maybe some of you guys can like... just have less internet drama in your life, and go out, and like live life. I'm sure that the buddies you made here are out there reforming the communities elsewhere. If there were OT threads that were helping you here, there's other places like sub-reddits or other boards where you can talk. If you made great friends here, I'm sure you'll be able to find them.

Remember, you are choosing where to spend your time. You are not compelled to stay here. Find your friends, and go chat with them elsewhere. Exchange numbers or FBs and like... chat and shit, you know?

There should be a "Missed Connections GAF" sub-reddit

"More_Badass, I remember you on GAF. You were cool. I miss you. Let's talk Magnus Archives"

Edit: You know dude, you could have just made a separate politics sub-forum and just had that properly moderated.


Beside NFLGAF being missed, the mental health thread was very worthwhile IMO. There was a lot people helping other people there.

But it's also good we can regroup and focus on Games for a while.
 

SpikedGunner

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Dec 18, 2011
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Yea, this is unacceptable, the getting rid of Off-Topic and later restricting what can be discussed is a poor response.

The spirit of what made GAF worth visiting is dead here.
 

Cheebo

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Sep 8, 2011
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To those who want the old OT GAf:

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Sports, Film, Box Office, Anime, Comics, etc GAF all moved there.
 

Mahadev

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Mar 5, 2007
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I think this is an issue he has to address. He created a toxic leftist environment instead of the positive one he thought he was making.

The idea was alight in theory, but this level of irony was needed to shine light on the problems this sight had.

A return to videogames is welcome, I just hope we can create the more positive environment that was originally sought out.


I don't agree with the nuking of the Off-topic though, the forum can have an offtopic without the toxic environment if there's fair moderation that allows all voices, and yes, I'm including Trump supporters in it.

Debate, real debate, not "debate" where you're afraid to say what you think usually is poisonous to the extremes so I don't think Trump supporters or the identity politics obsessed from the "left" would last here long.

I just want GAF the way is was before the toxic mods took it over, a GAF where people aren't dogpiled with extremely rude comments that are allowed because the posters share the same ideology with the mods, where people share their honest opinions respectfully, where the mods haven't created a toxic clique. Evilore can start again and he has a big opportunity to fix the forum now.
 

Cross-Section

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I was barely even here for the video games anyway.
 

anothertech

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Oct 1, 2014
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It's just obvious there was a large minority here that wanted any reason to bring down GAF. The trolling over the simplest political issues was overboard.

Most of us just want to talk about games around here, and not what floats your political agenda.
 

Heroman

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Oct 23, 2013
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Normal for you maybe. This site has literally thousands of lurkers and former banned members who just wanted a place to have fair and balanced discussions about games/movies/nerd culture in general. NOT be preached at by holier than thou, sanctimonious types and told they are Nazis because they are to the right of Joseph Stalin.

This USED to be a place where EVERYONE could have a voice as long as they weren't being pricks or arguing disingenuously. It CAN be that again.
It to late for that brah, you think it going to go back to that? And guess what politics are a part of our everyday lives. And you got was never about that people used to get called out for being racesi or sexist all the time.
 

Kaelan

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Jun 7, 2014
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They all quit in disgust over his sexual assault. Read their personal Twitter's.

Why lie about the fact some stayed behind then? Who is deleting/locking all the suicide threads and banning people? The two remaining admins? Lets use some logic here folks. It's possible 1-2 stayed behind that are anonymous because they know the other mods left and don't want to be singled out
 

Rokal

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Mar 11, 2010
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Your solution to people being upset about the sexual assault accusations against you is to shut down the entire side of the site that discussed these types of issues and ban political/social threads?

You are a coward.
 

Hip Hop

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Jan 14, 2013
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He made the right move to ban all political and social justice crap, it was killing the site. Now all the crazies will go elsewhere. But its too late maybe

OT was a parody at this point.
 

TabrisRyu

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Jul 4, 2010
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Leave social justice and politics out of videogames and maybe someday this forum will be great again, looking forward to having a discussion without fear of stepping on a landmine and getting banned.
 

Ultima_5

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Jun 3, 2009
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This is all very disappointing and off topic being deleted is a weird way to respond. Regardless of allegations.
 

Alienfan

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Mar 8, 2014
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The problem is mixing politics with games. I want to play games so I can enjoy, I do not participate in politics because it is stressful plus not everyone finds politics fun, not everyone can understand or appreciate the Trump-laden or US-political stuff because not everyone lives in the US.

Games are political. Art is political. It's a US centric form, the bulk majority of the political discourse will be US related. 99% of the threads on the gaming side aren't political, it's very easy to avoid
 

T-0800

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Feb 2, 2010
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Because I do not believe you in any way, shape or form, I would like to formally request that you permaban me from NeoGAF as soon as you are able to do so.

Why are you being so dramatic? If you don't want to be here, stop coming. Are you obligated to keep posting unless your account is shutdown?
 

BPoole

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May 13, 2013
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Yea, this is unacceptable, the getting rid of Off-Topic and later restricting what can be discussed is a poor response.

The spirit of what made GAF worth visiting is dead here.

To you. Did you forget this is a gaming forum, not a politics forum?
 

jstripes

Banned
Dec 9, 2012
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OT was life, ban me you sociopathic dipshit.

I ran a fairly popular site and forum 10+ years ago. I got dozens of men and women into E3 over those years without any expectation of anything. I just wanted our team there. When the forum community went in a direction I didn't like, vapid consumerism, I handed it over to someone else and walked away. I eventually ended up on NeoGAF because I liked the spirit of the place.

I don't know how this place can recover under current circumstances. It's been a major time sink of mine for years, the main community I've belonged to online, even if I didn't connect with many people. I'm going to have a major hole to fill not being here.

You could have handled this a whole lot better.

Goodbye NeoGAF, even though I barely knew most of you.
 

Calion

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Oct 2, 2009
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It's just obvious there was a large minority here that wanted any reason to bring down GAF. The trolling over the simplest political issues was overboard.

Most of us just want to talk about games around here, and not what floats your political agenda.

“Trolling”
 

Acerac

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May 20, 2007
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The answer to people having issues with mod accountability is not to make moderation anonymous. That’s the exact opposite of what should be happening if you actually wanted to address people’s concerns on that front. It’s entirely tone deaf.

Also if you really want to save this community you should step down and pass leadership to someone else. The community has spoken pretty clearly on that front.

I don't think the goal is to address people's concerns, it is to stop them from talking about subjects Evilore does not wish to have discussed on his board.

Given that perspective it seems logically implemented.
 

xaosslug

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Dec 22, 2005
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i lurked for a long time b4 I requested an account on Gaming-age. I've been on "gaf" in it's many forms for a long-ass time. But, I'm gonna be honest: ever since y'all decided to ban the entirety of POP-Gaf because you felt they didn't "share your moderation staff's vision for GAF" and any discussion of such was frowned upon, and no one seemed to care/peeps would rejoice @ the news... I've been uneasy on GAF.

this all just feels weird. :(
 

Setzer

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Jan 13, 2012
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Great to have GAF back and it is great that GAF is returning to it's roots. I come here for the video game chat it is my number one source of news and reviews of games.

Whilst I understand that Off Topic will return in a limited way I really do hope we get sections were we can discuss TV/Films.

I personally do not care what happened outside of this board, it is really none of my business. I just want to get back to talking about games and TV shows.

This exactly. It's none of my business what goes on in others personal lives, I'm here to talk about games first and foremost and other forms of entertainment such as movies and sports. Like you, NeoGAF is my #1 source for gaming news and reviews and would like it to continue to be.
 

oxrock

Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
Nov 30, 2004
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Believing in victims/accusations enough to investigate their claims makes sense. It's the reasonable thing to do. Harassing someone and trying to destroy their livelihood without any actual investigation taking place is just witch hunting mob mentality. IMO, the more miscreants who account suicide here, the better. We'll be a better community for it.
 

Heroman

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Oct 23, 2013
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It's just obvious there was a large minority here that wanted any reason to bring down GAF. The trolling over the simplest political issues was overboard.

Most of us just want to talk about games around here, and not what floats your political agenda.
But GAF wasn't brought down because of that it was right now because his do you sexually harass the woman
 

OrangeJulius

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Feb 9, 2012
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It to late for that brah, you think it going to go back to that? And guess what politics are a part of our everyday lives. And you got was never about that people used to get called out for being racesi or sexist all the time.

Then leave, brah. If Tyler is serious about restoring order, I'm happy to say i'm back.
 

pixelation

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Nov 21, 2014
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Believe it or not, there are some guys (like me), who initially came here for gaming news and stuff. However tastes change and after a while my interest started shifting towards off-topic. That's where i spent most of my time used on GAF, i barely frequent the gaming side (much less with the Switch overload lately). I hope off-topic comes back soon, and all comunities are left intact. Also banning politics from off-topic discussion is something i am not down with. It provided us with a place of resistance, of hope that this could all possibly change. Or that we can make it through it. It's a shame that we now will need to move unto more vanal subjects. I truly hope you change your decision to ban political topics from off-topic otherwise the NeoGaf i knew (and loved) would be truly dead.
 
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Beside NFLGAF being missed, the mental health thread was very worthwhile IMO. There was a lot people helping other people there.

But it's also good we can regroup and focus on Games for a while.

Thing is, 'Focusing on games', is just a smoke screen. It's trying to hit a reset button, but it's not a very good way of doing that. It comes off as heavy-handed and paranoid and avoidant. It's bad strategy.

There's lots of great groups, I'm not denying that at all. In fact, I think only bringing Gaming back was a definite mistake and he should have brought everything back and done a proper, clear statement. This is just obfuscation.

Tyler, I think you should hire me as your PR guy. I charge $360 US per hour.
 
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