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The state of the next-gen video game console (warning: cnet butthurt blog)
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Sit down please. Please. Are you seated? Are you ready? Well, the thing is:ds0gt said:
Do you honestly think that Nintendo and Microsoft won't be active at that time then? Meaning, will they stop developing games for the systems? Nope. There will be new hits from those two competing with your favourite Sony hits. Will MS and Nintendo stop producing consoles? No.
CitizenCope
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:lol
Regarding Heavenly Sword
Making a name for yourself.
Regarding Heavenly Sword
ds0gt said:
Making a name for yourself.
EverSoTrendy
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Are you kidding me? What the fuck is this? Come on.
Sho_Nuff82
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ds0gt said:
I think the Wii will be at or near the final LTD sales of either of the HD consoles by the end of next year.
The 360 and PS3 will cross 50 million apiece around the same time, which will coincidentally be the same time Nintendo crosses 100 million.
OldJadedGamer
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ds0gt said:
Are you forgetting that Sony last year projected to sell 11 million PS3 units worldwide in fiscal 07, and this year they projected to sell 10 million PS3 units worldwide in fiscal 08? That number in case you didn't notice is going down, not up. So where is this surge in sales going to come from if Sony themselves aren't even planning for it?
Arde5643 said:
Who's denying, I'm just making a prediction. What am I denying ... that the Wii is doing well. Check my posts. I never said that the Wii is NOT doing well. Its a matter of how long it will do well. Likewise, the PS3 is doing mediocre. I've stated in my posts that 2 factors will drive PS3 sales. (1) Price (2) HD adoption with BR ... not HDTV sales ... BR.
The last time I check, a prediction does not have to be based on facts. I'm just standing up for the dude and his prediction.
EverSoTrendy
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I think Cnet is just playing a joke.
MightyHedgehog
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Unless Ninty's software output somehow stalls, the Wii's success will probably continue unabated well into 2010.ds0gt said:
Unless the software output somehow stalls, the X360's success will increase as the price drops further and continue to sell in larger numbers well into 2010.
Unless Sony sees bigger mainstream exclusives from outside of their own stable of developers, their success is going to be somewhat limited by whatever success the X360 increases by.
Basically...
Wii has their own swingset.
X360 and PS3 share a see-saw with MS being the significantly heavier and stronger of the two right now and the foreseeable future.
ds0gt said:
That's what was being said last year. 'Xbox has nothing in 08. 08 is Sony's year, etc.'
But Xbox has great stuff this year and I'll guess they will always have something good each year.
For me Sony has Little Big Planet and that's it.
I'm more interested the the Netflix set top box than blu-ray, etc.
Ysiadmihi said:
So analyst reports are childish reasoning? His numbers aren't that far off ... in fact its more realistic than ones that CNET is reporting on. I'm not about to pay $$$ to read that report but its just a damn prediction. The thread title is right ... 'cnet butthurt blog'. Let the guy predict all he wants. If he's still on GAF, pull up this thread and make him feel like an idiot then.
Hellsing321
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The Wii has been a monster long before it had Smash Bros. It will continue to be a monster after.ds0gt said:
Rapping Granny
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SYSTEM WARS SYSTEM WARZA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ninja Gaiden 2ds0gt said:
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Fable 2
Halo Wars
Gears of War 2
and Too Human for shits and giggles
Not to mention Resident Evil 5!
Nintendo has formed the Zelda team to work on new games and I'm sure they have something planned for E3. As its stands now each console has great software, I'm looking forward to MGS4 and Ninja Gaiden 2 while I'm finishing my Smash Bros. Brawl trophy collection.
EverSoTrendy
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Alan Fucking Wake, bitch, do you not know the awesome? Remedy is the shit. Max Payne 3 and Red Dead Revolver also by *R.
as absurd as my opinion may seem to you it is still very possible, in the world of sales a lot of shit can happen, systems selling only 180k while their brand new game sells millions,
a "game" that has you weigh yourself possibly outselling every gamethis year.
shit happens deal with it. We don't know what will happen but we are all entitled to our opinions.
And to the guy posting my amazon review , its a true story .
a "game" that has you weigh yourself possibly outselling every gamethis year.
shit happens deal with it. We don't know what will happen but we are all entitled to our opinions.
And to the guy posting my amazon review , its a true story .
I think you are overlooking a very important factor. The weapons nintendo has are not catering just to hardcore like the other two consoles are concentrating on. This basically means with the demographic the wii attracts has a much greater chance to grow. Nintendo has more software that is a potential system seller. the hardcore will definitely buy more software for MS/Sony, but Nintendo will continue to sell systems because it has designed a console that appeals to a far wider demographic, and can cater to more demographics in general due to its design.ds0gt said:
Not everyone is into Nintendo franchises like Mario and Zelda, but for those people there are new titles and new experiences like wii fit and balance board third party games, unique sports games like the wii version of PES 08, and games making good use of the wii controls like Trauma center and Boom Blox to name a few. these arent blockbuster games, but put them all together and it is a very strong argument for purchasing the wii and peripherals.
Also, have you watched TV lately? have you not seen the news shows talking about wii, the tournaments and gameshows, hell even the Wii gum? It is a legitimate phenomenon and to suggest its going to just slow down is pretty stupid. the Ps3 has games like Killzone 2, Resistance 2, GT5, Ratchet, motorstorm 2, LBP, uncharted 2 coming which is fine, but these also cater to the same demographics current Ps3 software does. The possibility of growth is far less than the wii, where any good new software has potential to attract new people because of accessibility. This isnt just fanboy banter its whats happening, and to deny it is to show you arent very familiar with videogame history.
Ruud_Luiten
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I like you, you funny little guy..ds0gt said:
here, have a nice picture:
PetriP-TNT
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So awesome!TheOddOne said:
And go Sony go, prove people wrong!
Holy sweet mother of Jesus you did not just say that, this combined with your utterly wrong assertion that Wii will be irrelevant by 2009 (Hint, the mass market doesn't care for tech wars) just shows how markedly insane you are, or just delusional, or a SCE worker.ds0gt said:
1: Price didn't save the Gamecube, it isn't a factor in the UK (360 is cheaper than Wii, that hasn't stopped Wii from trampling 360 week after week), and PS3 still hasn't a huge margin to play with yet, SCE can't really afford to price cut for a while yet, not in the US anyway.sajj316 said:
2:the transition from DVD to BR will not be like that of VHS to DVD, it will be more gradual, and by the time BR becomes as mainstream as DVD became thanks in part to PS2, standalone players will be far cheaper than PS3, destroying any advantage BR gives the console sales wise.
:lol: No, but if it isn't its known as a GUESS, predictions are generally based off research and yes, actual facts.
Version 3.0
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It's amazing. Three years ago, these same analysts predicted "status quo"--basically no change from last gen. All they were capable of doing was to say "things won't change much", despite the fact that every console transition has seen significant change.
Now that we're in the middle of a generation--where very little change has ever historically occurred, they predict a massive turnaround.
They sound (and I hate to use this word) fanboyish.
Well, at least they're to the point of a virtual PS3/Wii tie. Maybe the next step will be to actually move beyond denial.
Now that we're in the middle of a generation--where very little change has ever historically occurred, they predict a massive turnaround.
They sound (and I hate to use this word) fanboyish.
Well, at least they're to the point of a virtual PS3/Wii tie. Maybe the next step will be to actually move beyond denial.
Version 3.0
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Predictions don't have to be based on facts, no, but ones that aren't tend to be ridiculed or ignored. I could hold out a baseball and predict that when I let it go, it will be flung off the planet by 'centrifugal force' rather than falling to the ground due to gravity. I mean, sooner or later the outward force created by the planet spinning has got to overcome this silly 'gravity', right? The planet's spinning at, like, 900 miles per hour!
But if I did predict that, I wouldn't expect much agreement.
...except, maybe, by these analysts.
But if I did predict that, I wouldn't expect much agreement.
...except, maybe, by these analysts.
Link
The Autumn Wind
I recall people saying this last year when it was only selling half as much.sajj316 said:
Here's a wakeup call for you: sequels don't do jack shit for sales, especially sequels that already have entries on the console in question. Do you think people that didn't bother the first time around are suddenly going to be interested? The games that sell consoles are the fresh, new experiences that come out of nowhere and sell on a consistent basis for the rest of the console's lifespan.ds0gt said:
The rest of your argument is just stupid, because you're pretty much saying that because we don't know of the games coming out after this year, that means nothing is coming.
The PS3 is not the PS2, and it never will be. The sooner people accept this, the better.alterno69 said:
Clinton514
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I love how the game media who so adamantly condemns 'fanboyism', dabbles in the shit every so often.
I'm not sure about that chart but I do personally feel the race is ultimately between Nintendo and Sony in the long.
I'm not sure about that chart but I do personally feel the race is ultimately between Nintendo and Sony in the long.
Suburban Cowboy
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according to this graph, PS3 will be selling well over a million units every month of 2012.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Clinton514 said:
I think the only race we'll see will be between Sony and Microsoft, and it will be for second place. To be honest, the Wii numbers that this guy gives seem fair; he's got it at about what Nintendo expects for the year, as I noted earlier, and then generously has it selling even more next year. It's the PS3 numbers (and the 360 numbers) that are truly odd. What is it that's going to suddenly make the PS3 so interesting? Where are these massive numbers of people going to come from so that an industry that sold 160 millionish consoles last gen will suddenly sell 250 million+ this gen? You can say that it's from people buying multiple consoles, but what will attract people to PS3 over 360?
Like I mentioned, this guy just seems to be caught up still in the "PlayStation must win" mindset that dominated thinking about this generation when it started. By now, it just seems foolish.
Bigmac573 said:
Not going to happen.
When the analog signals die out:
A) Anyone with cable (or an SDTV with a digital tuner, like me) is completely unaffected.
B) You can buy a converter box for your old tv that costs less than 100 bucks, as opposed to buying a new TV for 500-600 bucks at the VERY least.
C) The U.S. government is sending out vouchers for 40 bucks off the already cheaper converter boxes.
You know what's so great about these is that the authors are almost always never called to account.
Here's a projection for NA market share released in January 2007. Post PS3/Wii launch but apparently, SFG didn't have the proper market intelligence so they just fell inline with the fanboy consesus of the day. Might as well have blind monkeys do projections for us instead of paying a pretty penny for these studies.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4498&Itemid=2
Here's a projection for NA market share released in January 2007. Post PS3/Wii launch but apparently, SFG didn't have the proper market intelligence so they just fell inline with the fanboy consesus of the day. Might as well have blind monkeys do projections for us instead of paying a pretty penny for these studies.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4498&Itemid=2