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The Sun (UK): "Sony slammed for brutal scene in Detroit: Become Human..."

Juno

LIAR and a FELON
Heard about this on the radio this morning, and it's being discussed on The Wright Stuff on Channel 5 at the moment in a viewer call-in.

It all relates to the trailer from Paris Games Week a few weeks ago.

MOST DISTURBING VIDEO GAME EVER? Sony slammed for brutal scene in Detroit: Become Human showing dad beating daughter, 10, to death.

A VIOLENT video games has come under fire for featuring disturbing scenes of an abusive father beating his 10-year-old daughter 'to death'.

The neo-noir thriller, developed by Quantic Dream and produced by Sony, is set in a dystopian future and tells the story of an android housekeeper who works for an aggressive single dad called Todd.

Article in full.
 

MilkyJoe

Member
If the idea of the game is to try stop a dad killing his child, then someone needs to evaluate their green lights. First I've seen of this.
 

daniell

Member
Kinda stupid... we are now at the point where jack thompson would be proud with all the calls for weeb games censorship and now this nonsense.
 

nkarafo

Member
Would they have even bothered if Detroit was a movie rather than a video game?
Probably not. It's only the game industry that are not allowed to have heavy themes.


If the idea of the game is to try stop a dad killing his child, then someone needs to evaluate their green lights. First I've seen of this.
Would you like it better if you helped him instead?

Is saving a child not a good cause?
 

Juno

LIAR and a FELON
And I now it was a trailer, but...

scenes of an abusive father beating his 10-year-old daughter 'to death'.


is BS because it's implied, there is no scene where you watch a child beaten to death in the trailer.
 

MadMod

Member
The one of if not the worst paper in the UK. I’d be surprised if they even knew what they were talking about. Their research beyond the trailer is probably a 5 second twitter video.

I’ve seen the scene, it’s part of the narrative story. I’m assuming the game will be rated accordingly and I’m okay with such scenes. May even bring some positive discussion on the topic, especially if people are oblivious to such things.
 

Juno

LIAR and a FELON
Oh and of course the fellow rag *that shall not be named* has gotten in on the act!!

Wouldn't be too bothered, but the amount these rags have their articles shared and discussed (in the mainstream) is scary.
 

Shin

Banned
Isn't this wrong as is? "Sony slammed for brutal scene in Detroit: Become Human showing dad beating daughter, 10, to death."

I don't recall seeing the dad beat her to death at all in the trailer.
 

Typhares

Member
Also a bit of 'shock' in autralia according to this article

The National Association for Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect (NAPCAN) told Nine.com.au the game Detroit: Become Human was "very disturbing" and called on Australian stores to not stock it.
 

Fbh

Member
Not that I think that David Cage is very good at it . But games aren't allowed to have dark or "heavy" themes now ?

Do these organizations take as much issue with Movies, TV shows and books that depict domestic violence ?
 

Alx

Member
It's fictional.

Being fictional is not an excuse in itself, otherwise anything would fly provided it's not real characters. Some time ago Japan used the "it's fictional" defense for pedophile anime, after all.
With that said, I don't think there's anything wrong with Detroit, since it doesn't promote violence or child killing, just telling a story where those things happen. It's not for all audience, but apart from that it's ok.
 

knerl

Member
Better not change it. Wish people could start understanding we have ratings for a reason. More importantly I wish people could stop being such hypocrites. It's a game, it's a story told. If it makes people uncomfortable and react this way it's succeeded in telling a believable story and setting. That's a good thing. Reactions and emotions are what we strive to achieve in the media just like in movies no? It's not an appeal. While still being fiction fathers beating relatives, children or not, is a real thing in our world. If anything showing scenes like this is to spread awareness. Kind of like how gore and violence in games is a way of preventing it by showing that the acts have consequences.

Makes me think of the TLOU2 trailer. How can anyone complain about it being too violent? Did the ones that complained even play the first game? The world and horrible shit characters do in that game is dark as fuck. You don't have to like it, but it's what the fictitious story and world is like. All things considered in this work of fiction it's perfectly believable to me and adds to the immersion.
 

Alx

Member
Makes me think of the TLOU2 trailer. How can anyone complain about it being too violent?

My issue with the TLOU2 trailer wasn't the violence itself, but the fact that they just threw that video with gruesome details for everyone to see without any kind of warning (or context). As long as everyone knows what they're getting into it's fine, just keep in mind people who aren't into that and are just here to watch regular video games.
 

PaulBizkit

Member
Don't bother with this story, people. The Sun is the most tabloid, sensasionalist newspaper ever.

This'll be forgotten by tomorrow.
 

MilkyJoe

Member
Would you like it better if you helped him instead?

Is saving a child not a good cause?

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knerl

Member
My issue with the TLOU2 trailer wasn't the violence itself, but the fact that they just threw that video with gruesome details for everyone to see without any kind of warning (or context). As long as everyone knows what they're getting into it's fine, just keep in mind people who aren't into that and are just here to watch regular video games.

But it's The Last Of Us. That alone should have been a sign of what might have come. If not the slow intro sets the tone pretty well where you should be able to kind of tell that things might escalate into more gruesome stuff.
 

Alx

Member
But it's The Last Of Us. That alone should have been a sign of what might have come.

Except that they didn't tell what it was about during the conference. No title, no description, just "show is over, oh wait watch this before you go !".
Also even if the trailers for the first TLOU were violent too, that specific one was something else. As a matter of fact it did have a shock value even on people who are familiar with TLOU universe.
 

Shifty

Member
From the same paper whose prime selling point is the sexy centerfold on page 3.

I wouldn't consider it too credible.
 

mario_O

Member
I find it hard to believe: "Beat to death". And this is The Sun, but we'll see. In any case, people have to realize that videogames, like movies, etc are for adults too. It's not a kids thing only anymore. If a game developer wants to explore this subject I see no problem at all.
 

Dunki

Member
Being fictional is not an excuse in itself, otherwise anything would fly provided it's not real characters. Some time ago Japan used the "it's fictional" defense for pedophile anime, after all.
With that said, I don't think there's anything wrong with Detroit, since it doesn't promote violence or child killing, just telling a story where those things happen. It's not for all audience, but apart from that it's ok.

Yes it is. There are even surveys that material like this is helping people not to act in reality. Media is a fantasy fulfillment. Just like rape porn as an example. It helps us to live out our fantasies without hurting anyone.

Oh And you do not want to know what you can totally buy freely in Japan if you go the porn direction. But it is still fictional and fictional everything is fine.
 

Alx

Member
Well at least I'm quite happy that fictional child porn is forbidden over here. And Custer's Revenge is fictional too, does it make it ok ?
 

Dunki

Member
Well at least I'm quite happy that fictional child porn is forbidden over here. And Custer's Revenge is fictional too, does it make it ok ?

Why should it not be ok? Again you have way more heavy stuff in western pornos. Example Rape porn is really popular. Psychologytoday found out more than half of women have rape fantasies. But these are fantasies and have nothing to do with real life.

Fantasy helps us to live out the stuff you are not allowed to without this outlet you would have a lot more crimes
 
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