Nope, Nintendo loves Sundays and I hate Nintendo because I usually ship through amazon which means no same day shipping. =P
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Nope, Nintendo loves Sundays and I hate Nintendo because I usually ship through amazon which means no same day shipping. =P
Bingo! The same reason I don't go with them for many big big releases.
MisterHero
Super Member
There is a stunning lack of Futurama GIFs on the internet where Bender uses the zooming feature of his eyes.From the patent. Get on it, techies.
From the patent. Get on it, techies.
So... There are two memory pools?
We've already discussed this >___>. But luckily with me being a college student I have ample time to wait for shipping before I play. =P
From the patent. Get on it, techies.
Most of it's the same as previous patents/deductions, but it is interesting that there are both VRAM and "Internal Main Memory" on the GPU's MCM, and then "External Main Memory" as well. Off the top of my head, I can think of two possible explanations for this:
1) The "Internal Main Memory" is the eDRAM, and the "VRAM" is just a separate 3MB of VRAM to provide Wii BC. The "External Main Memory" is the main RAM.
2) The "VRAM" is the eDRAM. There's a split pool of RAM, with perhaps 1GB of GDDR5 with a wide bus on the MCM with the GPU ("Internal Main Memory") and another 1GB of slower DDR3 on the motherboard ("external main memory").
It won't be 2-way. NFC writers are far more expensive than NFC readers. I have experience in this manner.
15 minutes ago.
Nintendo you better put a wiimote plus in there....i will refuse to play fps with dual analog....
This.
This.
Also this.
If the shooter audience had a brain, they'd demand a pointer of some kind instead of sticks
People have covered this before: the ergonomics of the current pad don't line up with analog sticks. Unless you like carpal-tunnel?
From the patent. Get on it, techies.
Let me take my shot at guessing:
Well, it's a split memory pool. If sizes mean anything in that diagram, there is a bigger slower pool for the CPU, and 2 smaller pools directly on the MCM. Likely that this is the faster memory (and again, if size matters there is less of it) and/or being mislabeled EDram, and the external memory will probably be regular DDR3.
Also, if size matters... LOL at GPU
Also of note, the ROM suggests that more of the flash memory (8gb?) will be open to end users. The Wii-U pads have a separate Ni-Fi chip and are not solely using bluetooth (aka "terminal connector") - which is good. Bodes well for more pads if Ni-Fi can support it.
The design of the CPU/external/internal memory/gpu harken back to GC/Wii, so I would bet that backwards compatibility was certainly in their heads. This likely means that whatever CPU/GPU is in there will have some lineage that will allow for 100% hardware BC.
And VRAM what happened to the eDRAM?
GameplayWhore
Member
Pff, it wasn't news.
edit: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36395255&postcount=10452
"On Nintendo's E3 Conference day, we'll evaluate the sources and information together." ← It sure sounds to me like Tom was going to reveal who gave out correct info
tkscz
Member
From the patent. Get on it, techies.
If this is real, than appearantly, the WiiU has two pools of RAM, one for the GPU and two things of main RAM (internal and external). A separeate I/O Processor, and a DSP.
Seems to be based around leaving as much CPU power open as possible.
Spieler Eins
Member
1) Price? 299€
2) Release date? November
3) Bullshit xbox360-based Multiplier Equivalent? 2x
4) Nintendo conference surprise(s)? Two new heavily marketed franchises from Retro Studios and Miyamoto, alongside at least 5 other 1st party titles
5) Predict Miyamoto's role/costume/appearance context in this year's show. Suit
6) Any special MS or Sony predictions? Their next gen teasers
7) You know we're going to hear some, umm, interesting excuses from third parties. So.. what'll be your favorite? They should have made a classical controller
8) Any special E3 plans/arrangements of your own? Taking off from work? Skipping a final exam? Skipping lecture
9) Your favorite bullshit gaming media critique of Nintendo's performance at E3 this year? They still rehash the same old, not true next gen
10) Your own predicted complaint/peeve/angering issue regarding Nintendo's E3 performance this year? Reggie not bashing MS/Sony enough
2) Release date? November
3) Bullshit xbox360-based Multiplier Equivalent? 2x
4) Nintendo conference surprise(s)? Two new heavily marketed franchises from Retro Studios and Miyamoto, alongside at least 5 other 1st party titles
5) Predict Miyamoto's role/costume/appearance context in this year's show. Suit
6) Any special MS or Sony predictions? Their next gen teasers
7) You know we're going to hear some, umm, interesting excuses from third parties. So.. what'll be your favorite? They should have made a classical controller
8) Any special E3 plans/arrangements of your own? Taking off from work? Skipping a final exam? Skipping lecture
9) Your favorite bullshit gaming media critique of Nintendo's performance at E3 this year? They still rehash the same old, not true next gen
10) Your own predicted complaint/peeve/angering issue regarding Nintendo's E3 performance this year? Reggie not bashing MS/Sony enough
GameplayWhore
Member
"The Sunday Before Black Friday" is when three out of the last four Nintendo generations started in the US (GCN, NDS Wii). The fourth started badly, giving Nintendo impetus to go back to the tried and true method.
then again, GCN didn't exactly light up the charts, did it?
He needs to reveal it in that tiny chat we all discussed a few threads ago. GAF is going to be a war zone during e3
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont think that it would feel much different because you have to click at the same time while moving the pads/sticks. Personally i have no problem with clickable sticks. They react exactly like i expect to and it doesnt interfere with the way i move the sticks. I expect it to be the same with sliding pads as well.
There is a big "bulge" on the back of the controller (for better grip), so i dont think that they are that concerned about it looking sleek like a flat tablet. It could be that they want the top of the controller to be flat though (maybe this is what you mean).
Let me take my shot at guessing:
Well, it's a split memory pool. If sizes mean anything in that diagram, there is a bigger slower pool for the CPU, and 2 smaller pools directly on the MCM. Likely that this is the faster memory (and again, if size matters there is less of it) and/or being mislabeled EDram, and the external memory will probably be regular DDR3.
Also, if size matters... LOL at GPU
Also of note, the ROM suggests that more of the flash memory (8gb?) will be open to end users. The Wii-U pads have a separate Ni-Fi chip and are not solely using bluetooth (aka "terminal connector") - which is good. Bodes well for more pads if Ni-Fi can support it.
The design of the CPU/external/internal memory/gpu harken back to GC/Wii, so I would bet that backwards compatibility was certainly in their heads. This likely means that whatever CPU/GPU is in there will have some lineage that will allow for 100% hardware BC.
Yeah, if this is to scale, that's definitely a <=320ALU GPU and only on-par with current gen.
Fourth Storm
Member
Let me take my shot at guessing:
Well, it's a split memory pool. If sizes mean anything in that diagram, there is a bigger slower pool for the CPU, and 2 smaller pools directly on the MCM. Likely that this is the faster memory (and again, if size matters there is less of it) and/or being mislabeled EDram, and the external memory will probably be regular DDR3.
Also, if size matters... LOL at GPU
Also of note, the ROM suggests that more of the flash memory (8gb?) will be open to end users. The Wii-U pads have a separate Ni-Fi chip and are not solely using bluetooth (aka "terminal connector") - which is good. Bodes well for more pads if Ni-Fi can support it.
The design of the CPU/external/internal memory/gpu harken back to GC/Wii, so I would bet that backwards compatibility was certainly in their heads. This likely means that whatever CPU/GPU is in there will have some lineage that will allow for 100% hardware BC.
I'm thinking the "internal main memory" is the eDRAM. It would fit the rumors of the eDRAM being a "scratchpad" accessible to the CPU as well as the GPU. The VRAM would presumably be GDDR5 and the "external main memory" DDR3.
I gotta look into this more though...
Before you get too pessimistic, often times size isn't reflected correctly in patent diagrams. So I was partially joking
Fourth Storm
Member
I doubt it's to scale. I was pouring over an old GCN patent a few months back and the sizes were all out of whack...
Graphics Horse
Member
I'm not sure if emulation will be the reason, It's something I always expected because it simply matched the philosophy of the GC. I'd imagine they'd be able to make adjustments to the external RAM very late into the design.
Don't worry, I'm doubting it's even close to scale as well. I mean... lol disc drive.
If this is was to scale the CPU would be bigger then the CD
Super powerfull beast console. Its only the size of your desk.I'll reveal it whenever I can, as best for everyone possible. I'll try to do it in both the thread and in chat, if possible.
I'll say this.. participation in my offer is more limited than you'd think. I'm a bit disappointed, but then again, a guy swearing on his beloved dog? It could be risky-sounding to someone who doesn't know me, I admit..
edit: and I still feel no temptation to peek.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Shitty circle pads will give me carpal tunnel far before this will:
What's shitty about the Wii U circle pad?
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
I shouldn't shoulder the blame onto the USPTO, but due to a rather tricky layout in their database, I missed yet another thing regarding the Wii U trademark, this time for the United States.
As I've reported before, the current status of Wii U trade marks in the USPTO's Trademark Application and Registration Retrieval System is that Nintendo cannot continue further action on the application until certain documents are provided. On the 16th of April, Nintendo supplied these documents to the USPTO and thus should soon be able to continue action on it. The status date is still 01/11/2012, but I assume it takes a while to process the documents, the bureaucratic pursuit of the USPTO is rather slow (though effective).
This is what it says:
If anyone wants to read the 14 page document, it's available as TEAS Response to Suspension Inquiry here:http://tdr.uspto.gov/search.action?sn=85393173#
What I can gather from this is that Nintendo wishes to continue action on these marks, and that Wii U is what they want their next generation console to be called. As of now, the examining agent will update the filings and should when done publish the marks in the Official Gazette, a weekly publication of the USPTO. This gazette makes it possible for any party who believes it may be damaged by registration of the mark to file either an opposition or a request to extend the time to oppose. The time limit to do this is 30 days. Should there be no opposition, the name is basically set and all Nintendo has to do is file a statement of use (SOU). Should the SOU be approved, USPTO issues a registration within approximately two months after.
Now it's just the problems in England they have to solve. But the name appears to be what they want.
As I've reported before, the current status of Wii U trade marks in the USPTO's Trademark Application and Registration Retrieval System is that Nintendo cannot continue further action on the application until certain documents are provided. On the 16th of April, Nintendo supplied these documents to the USPTO and thus should soon be able to continue action on it. The status date is still 01/11/2012, but I assume it takes a while to process the documents, the bureaucratic pursuit of the USPTO is rather slow (though effective).
This is what it says:
If anyone wants to read the 14 page document, it's available as TEAS Response to Suspension Inquiry here:http://tdr.uspto.gov/search.action?sn=85393173#
What I can gather from this is that Nintendo wishes to continue action on these marks, and that Wii U is what they want their next generation console to be called. As of now, the examining agent will update the filings and should when done publish the marks in the Official Gazette, a weekly publication of the USPTO. This gazette makes it possible for any party who believes it may be damaged by registration of the mark to file either an opposition or a request to extend the time to oppose. The time limit to do this is 30 days. Should there be no opposition, the name is basically set and all Nintendo has to do is file a statement of use (SOU). Should the SOU be approved, USPTO issues a registration within approximately two months after.
Now it's just the problems in England they have to solve. But the name appears to be what they want.
GameplayWhore
Member
Yeah, a lot of people simply don't know about the offer because it's only been mentioned a few times in a thread that creates new pages every few minutes. Knowledge is a moving target.
If this is was to scale the CPU would be bigger then the CD
Oh, shit, Wii U optical media the size of a flat screen television confirmed!
GameplayWhore
Member
I don't like the one on the 3DS too much, personally. But it wouldn't really bother me. And the one on the Wii U does seem to alleviate the major issues I have with it (like the excessive flatness and subsequent relative difficulty in holding it in a position).
The things I prefer with the alleged older design is:
A) The lower controls are closer to the center of the controller than the higher controls, meaning you can reach them by just moving your thumb. With the newer model, it looks like you have to shift your whole hand around.
B) The + and - buttons are suddenly in a place where the natural sweep of the same thumb can reach with little effort. Devs will use these buttons somehow, regardless of their placement, just because they exist. So it's nice to have them in a more comfortable spot.
C) The grip is contoured in what looks like a shape more fitting to the human hand.
D) From the looks of it, the controller would lay more horizontally if you rest it on a table, making stuff like that Othello demo a little more reasonable.
Just to make your life easier:
#232: John Harker (vouched for in #284, #285, #286, #289, et al), "the thumb sticks are clickable" ← speculation follows regarding the possibility of it being analog-"click", whether the flat nature of the Wii U analogs would make it feel less awkward, etc..
#370: updated Wii U gun-shell design ← with bottom front trigger apparently moved to immediately below the analog stick
#467: GameStop internal computer system lists BLOps 2 for Wii U
But you should still go back and read the responses and survey answers and so forth.
ninjedit: Hey, guys, wossname was right, he did specifically say "sticks". I personally think he used the words out of convention, not out of a snipey "they're sticks now, not pads", but take out of it what you will.
I appreciate it man
But clickable sticks?! That made my day. And does that mean they changed up the controller quite a bit from its initial showing?
Yep! I don't have to yell "go go gadget thumbs!" if I want to hit these buttona, thank goodness.. but I won't hit them accidentally either.
Fourth Storm
Member
Pure speculation: Could this be the solution for more than one DRC? A smaller device with a smaller/lower resolution screen? Used not so much to give you another full view of the game, but to hide information (plays in madden) and allow for touch based commands...
That would be quite wild, out of left field. I dunno..Pure speculation: Could this be the solution for more than one DRC? A smaller device with a smaller/lower resolution screen? Used not so much to give you another full view of the game, but to hide information (plays in madden) and allow for touch based commands...
Error Macro
Member
Rösti;37563154 said:
And that, my friends, is that.
I hope they at least change the logo. If they don't, it'll be next to impossible to market this as a new system. Just make the "U" in the same style as the "Wii", so it looks like the whole name is the system's brand. The way they have it now is like the "i" in DSi. It stands out too much and looks like the logo for an add-on or a game.
Is this really part of the patent?
I hope they don't go too much smaller. A Nintendo controller has never cramped my hands, amd I don't want to start now..
1) Price? $350 dls
2) Release date? 18 Nov (NA)
3) Bullshit xbox360-based Multiplier Equivalent? 2x
4) Nintendo conference surprise(s)? Some "Core" alliance (crytek, valve, Epic), Demo showing graphical capabilities that will "wow" us
5) Predict Miyamoto's role/costume/appearance context in this year's show. Demo'ing pikmin
6) Any special MS or Sony predictions? 360 gets GTA V Exclusive DLC
7) You know we're going to hear some, umm, interesting excuses from third parties. So.. what'll be your favorite? We are not developing anything yet cause we want to create something unique
8) Any special E3 plans/arrangements of your own? Taking off from work? Skipping a final exam? I'll be on my vacations already
9) Your favorite bullshit gaming media critique of Nintendo's performance at E3 this year? Not "hardcore" enough, no HDD
10) Your own predicted complaint/peeve/angering issue regarding Nintendo's E3 performance this year? We will get most of the info from 3rd parties
2) Release date? 18 Nov (NA)
3) Bullshit xbox360-based Multiplier Equivalent? 2x
4) Nintendo conference surprise(s)? Some "Core" alliance (crytek, valve, Epic), Demo showing graphical capabilities that will "wow" us
5) Predict Miyamoto's role/costume/appearance context in this year's show. Demo'ing pikmin
6) Any special MS or Sony predictions? 360 gets GTA V Exclusive DLC
7) You know we're going to hear some, umm, interesting excuses from third parties. So.. what'll be your favorite? We are not developing anything yet cause we want to create something unique
8) Any special E3 plans/arrangements of your own? Taking off from work? Skipping a final exam? I'll be on my vacations already
9) Your favorite bullshit gaming media critique of Nintendo's performance at E3 this year? Not "hardcore" enough, no HDD
10) Your own predicted complaint/peeve/angering issue regarding Nintendo's E3 performance this year? We will get most of the info from 3rd parties
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I hope not.
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
While I dislike giving the dude attention, tomorrow could mean a real nasty development when it comes to Wii U specs. Message courtesy of Kevin Cassidy:
Brace yourselves, lads, this is gonna get ugly.
Brace yourselves, lads, this is gonna get ugly.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
lol pachter
GameplayWhore
Member
Wii controller and Metroid Prime 3 taught me that all buttons will be used at some point and that it's pretty terrible when there are buttons that require mutant hands to reach.
Agent Unknown
Member
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Why Nintendo hasn't released any specs YET???
Is he new to knowledge of the company???
Is he new to knowledge of the company???
Graphics Horse
Member
Fourth Storm
Member
The picture is. It's listed as a "variation" of the more familiar model's configuration.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
http://m.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-vita-needs-games
In hospital posting from phone. Someone want to expand this out?
In hospital posting from phone. Someone want to expand this out?
GameplayWhore
Member
No, Playstation Move was Wii HD. He said so.
"Pachter: Playstation Move Is The Wii HD, An Easy Upsell For Sony"
Sorry. "Call of Duty: Black Ops 2".
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