Dark-Cloudz
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The Wonderful 101 |OT| Kamiya Focuses on fun, not length.
Yes, it's a penis joke.
Yes, it's a penis joke.
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The Wonderful 101 launches in NA on Sept. 15, EU on Aug. 23
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Huh, I just noticed...
Isn't one of the major players Yellow? Why is he suddenly color green?
Isn't one of the major players Yellow? Why is he suddenly color green?
Seriously, I'm just finding out about this now. Though it'll probably be local.
Fimbulvetr
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Huh? The yellow guy is still there. Also, green was revealed before yellow.
Wishmaster92
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
I do think this game has more immediate appeal than Little King's Story, Madworld and Hotel Dusk, mostly based on combination of visual style and genre.
But you have to remember, even those games took a while to achieve their unremarkable sales numbers. Certainly longer than six months.
This. I can see it doing that amount over the lifetime of the console, but I don't expect it to be a runaway hit unless Nintendo makes a concentrated effort to market it appropriately.
If they did decide to go this route, perhaps they could ride Pikmin's wave.
This is taken from the wii u forums. The graphics did improve since September look
oh, i know it's improved. i'm following this game. just this day and age circular shadow for console game is kinda....
Well there are like 100 characters on screen at a time. Plus enemies.
Considering most current-gen games can't do flawless real-time shadows when there are like 10 characters on screen, I think expecting real-time shadows in this game is a little bit unreasonable.
I was going to suggest:
The Wonderful 101 |OT| It's not about the length but what you do with it
But this was the winner from moment one:
The Wonderful 101 |OT| It's not about the length but what you do with it
But this was the winner from moment one:
StreetsAhead
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This is taken from the wii u forums. The graphics did improve since September look
Oh wow, I knew it had been improved but it's much more dramatic seeing it side by side.
Re: sales expectations
You guys also should consider that previous Platinum games were one among a flood of many, years into a system's life. The Wonderful 101 is one of THE games to get if you buy a Wii U this year. And it's first party published. Sure the install base is smaller, but the game has a way way way higher profile than previous games (aside from MGS Rising obviously).
You guys also should consider that previous Platinum games were one among a flood of many, years into a system's life. The Wonderful 101 is one of THE games to get if you buy a Wii U this year. And it's first party published. Sure the install base is smaller, but the game has a way way way higher profile than previous games (aside from MGS Rising obviously).
Spieler Eins
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The Wonderful 101 |OT| Iwata asks your mom (laughs)
Depends on the marketing but I don't see this ever having mainstream appeal in any scenario. No More Heroes hit the right nerves early on Wii, but despite GHM it also didn't look nearly as wacky as this.
Depends on the marketing but I don't see this ever having mainstream appeal in any scenario. No More Heroes hit the right nerves early on Wii, but despite GHM it also didn't look nearly as wacky as this.
Circle shadows are (and should be) used in games like this as a visual cue for platforming. Because it would be really hard to figure out where exactly you are in 3D space while jumping otherwise. Some games tried other solutions, like switching between real and circle shadows depending on whether or not your jumping, or using projections, but the former looks stupid and the latter adds unnecessary clutter.
You can easily sell this as a kid-friendly action game by the visual presentation alone, though. Not saying this is gonna do Mario Kart numbers but among gamers, this is one of the games to get for the system.
Didn't you hear? Games always have to have the best graphics technically possible, game design is irrelevant.
StreetsAhead
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Didn't you hear? Games always have to have the best graphics technically possible, game design is irrelevant.
Be prepared for the 'lol Wii U' posts when 3D Mario has circle shadows, too
Freezie KO
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Agreed. Game mechanics trump everything.
Spieler Eins
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Not even Lego City is doing great in that regard, or is it?
I think it entered in the charts fairly high, at least for a WiiU game, and then dropped like a rock. Actual sales figures I'm not so sure, but probably not any higher than 300k
Good point. We never got sales numbers for that game, even though the 3DS game that only sold 100k did. I feel really bad for P*, they'll never get a hit.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I think its the second or third best selling wii u retail game. It probably have legs if the install base grows.
True, I guess. Though that game also gets snubbed by those lusting after TW101 since many view it as "just a Lego game" with boring graphics and shitty load-times. TW101 has a lot more "street cred" in that area so far, thanks to Platnum developing it. As for LCU, who knows, maybe the game will have slow but steady sales with a long tail as the install base grows. Right now, no Wii U game is doing that awesome aside from the "safe bet" Nintendo games.
The people who know about and like PG are far lower in number than those who like Lego/Lego games. This does offer something new to the WiiU lineup, but it's not going to make a large impact.
The people who like Lego games also don't necessarily buy a system for a Lego game, especially if that is the one Lego game that doesn't have co-op which is why a lot of people love the Lego games. Wonderful 101 is an enthusiast-gamers system seller type game like Pikmin which is why the pairing of those two fits so nicely.
edit: again, not saying it'll do millions.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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True but I dont think people bought LCU just because it was lego. Some bought it because it was published by Nintendo and thought of it as a good game.
Neff
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If Kamiya brings his A game again, this title is going to have very, very good word of mouth. Nintendo will do their best to sing its praises. Quality-starved Wii U owners have basically been waiting for this and Pikmin 3 since the launch lineup. I imagine there are going to be a few folks who will be buying Wii Us to play it soon. Realistically speaking, it might not be a hit, but it definitely won't be a flop.
Agreed. I bet there's a ton of those "wait and see" people out there who were put off by NintendoLand and were tired of 2D Mario who just want Pikmin and "new crazy game from Kamiya" and with the Zelda/3D Mario double punch to follow soon, those games will be their imaginary delayed launch pick-ups.
That's how it is for me. Picking up A Wii U with Pikmin 3 and a few other games to stave me off until W101.
Now we just have to hope there's a few million more exactly like you
This Is me as well! Waiting until 3D Mario or Mario Kart and ill be buying a Wii U with W101 + Pikmin 3.
I like this one. Nice VJ callback.
I think we've heard similar things before for pretty much every Clover/Platinum game though.
And it's all well and good hoping that Nintendo will get behind it and push it, but I for one expected them to do that for Lego City, and to be honest you would hope that younger, Saturday morning cartoon demographic is the one they focus on with this if they want it to be a hit. To be fair, maybe Lego City was marketed well on kids TV and I just missed it.
Perhaps if Nintendo makes a concerted effort to re-boot Wii U marketing after E3 and throughout the summer. If not, I'm afraid I can see the Platinum status quo being unchanged with TW101.
How many price drops do you need? Retailers all over the world are doing insane deals on the system.
that may be but I just hope the price gets lower this fall because this is the only game on the WiiU that remotely interests me. The current MSRP is just silly.
But what do you care about the MSRP when you get insane deals that probably go even lower than the very first price drop will already?
I can see it going both ways really. It really does look like a game with more mass appeal than what Platinum has done in the past. It has co-op multiplayer, rich graphics, and it's a brawler of epic proportions.
I can see it bombing if it gets no marketing, is 4 hours long and gets mediocre reviews.
I can see it selling over a million if it's a 9.5 game and gets the proper marketing it deserves. Personally, I'm salivating for the day I walk out of the store with GTAV and W101 in my hand.
Midnight Believer
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Does this game have Off-TV Play?
First off, nobody knows. And it's built around gestures on the touch screen so 99% no.
[REossiblity of Off TV Play]
Agree that nobody knows, but I thought that all of the gestures could be made using the right analog stick too. That doesn't get around the puzzle inside the hangar where the gamepad sees a different view...
ossiblity of Off TV Play]Agree that nobody knows, but I thought that all of the gestures could be made using the right analog stick too. That doesn't get around the puzzle inside the hangar where the gamepad sees a different view...