captainraincoat
Banned
What needs to be fixed with the Xbox One Interface
Long Rant Incoming
I have been played a good couple of days now and have some major gripes about the interface and how you interact with your friends and party .if I were to summarize it quickly the interface and friends system is broken at the moment the rest of the console is pretty cool,I love the snap feature I love the voice controls to some degree and I am really enjoying the games but the friends and party system is really spoiling the experience Im not sure if this is what CBOAT was alluding too but its almost like they went out of their way to create the most confusing and non user friendly system for when you want to play with your friends.
I have seen the major nelson piece about how to party up but even that seems confusing and dipped in pr ..most people just want to join their friends party of their choosing and join into their game if there is a spot you cant do this with most of the games.
The New ideas are nice in theory but they have completely destroyed something that was simple and works well on the 360.
Here are the main gripes
Accessing your friends list
You cant simply bring up your friends list while in a game ..unless Im missing something you either have to go back to the home screen and click on the friends tile or you have to snap the ui and bring the party tab into the second window both methods are cumbersome and one of the best features of the 360 was how you could simply click the orb button..bring up the friends list and invite to party or join party . Another rather annoying thing is that I have to filter to online only every time I go into my friends list it should be showing the online guys first and the offline second.
Notifications
Not sure what they have done here but you cant set the notifications to show when your friends come online instead of this they have put some retarded system which prompts other people on your friends list to join into a party if they happen to be playing the same game this would not be a problem if I was chummy with everyone on my friends list but I play with some friends on some games and some other friends on other games
The Actual Party System
Why do you have to turn party chat on every time you join the party??...if we were all grouped together in a party do you think people would like to sit around and stare at the usernames??...would make sense if you could invite people to games which brings me to my next point
The Invite System
Probably the biggest pile of crap in the whole thing you cant simply click on a friend and invite to game......try setting up a private lobby in forza5 you will go insane you cant even join a session in progress .there is no option too unless the game you have has it built into their matchmaking system .you get the invites late,the pop ups to join the party game put you into lobbys of the people who are playing it on your friends list (who you may not want to play with) and sometimes it decides to randomly kick someone which causes the game to crash for one or two people in your party.
I have read somewhere that this function is there but is not visible if you are not matched this is completely crap
How Do you Fix this ????
let me suggest a few things
The Party and Friends System needs to be Quick..Snappy and to the point .most people dont want to stuff around snapping menus..clicking unmute and having to go through menus to simply reply back to a message
1) Make the orb button on the control bring up a menu that has Friends Party and Messages..nothing else If people want to go to the home menu let kinnect guide do it or add in a function like double clicking the orb button that does this .i know this is the snap function but surely that could be remapped to some other button press of combination Under these menus..have it like the 360s reply to message invite friend ect there should be no more than 2 submenus Any more than that and its bloated
2) Get rid of the matchmaking Party system crap I dont want to be matched up with everyone on my friends list who is playing the game Im playing..i suspect this is the evolution of the broadcast crap that was on the 360 that nobody that I know used.Its Crap..sometimes I feel like jumping in a game with some friends who are new to the game..sometimes I dont Do not put up a wall stopping me doing this and dont force me play with people I dont want to play with.
3) Let me invite or join session in progress like the 360 used too..dont block me from doing it because of my rank/reputation ect
4) Show me when my friends come online..and if I want to see who is online dont make me have to click on a filter every time I want to go through my hundreds of freinds
5) If I join a Party its because I want to chat with them dont mute everyone by default
I suspect many of these are already been worked on but in my opinion you should be able to quickly reply back to a message quickly join a game or quickly invite someone to a party..all of this can currently be done on the 360 in seconds
If someone who is working on the interface is reading this have someone with a 360 sit next to you and time how it takes to do something if it takes longer..scrap it if its quicker. Add it
Im betting also that there may be some quick shortcuts that Im not aware of but myself and 8 others on my friends list were all scratching their heads over the weekend trying to do basic things and we are gamers .imagine Mum and Dad trying to figure this out
I have been played a good couple of days now and have some major gripes about the interface and how you interact with your friends and party .if I were to summarize it quickly the interface and friends system is broken at the moment the rest of the console is pretty cool,I love the snap feature I love the voice controls to some degree and I am really enjoying the games but the friends and party system is really spoiling the experience Im not sure if this is what CBOAT was alluding too but its almost like they went out of their way to create the most confusing and non user friendly system for when you want to play with your friends.
I have seen the major nelson piece about how to party up but even that seems confusing and dipped in pr ..most people just want to join their friends party of their choosing and join into their game if there is a spot you cant do this with most of the games.
The New ideas are nice in theory but they have completely destroyed something that was simple and works well on the 360.
Here are the main gripes
Accessing your friends list
You cant simply bring up your friends list while in a game ..unless Im missing something you either have to go back to the home screen and click on the friends tile or you have to snap the ui and bring the party tab into the second window both methods are cumbersome and one of the best features of the 360 was how you could simply click the orb button..bring up the friends list and invite to party or join party . Another rather annoying thing is that I have to filter to online only every time I go into my friends list it should be showing the online guys first and the offline second.
Notifications
Not sure what they have done here but you cant set the notifications to show when your friends come online instead of this they have put some retarded system which prompts other people on your friends list to join into a party if they happen to be playing the same game this would not be a problem if I was chummy with everyone on my friends list but I play with some friends on some games and some other friends on other games
The Actual Party System
Why do you have to turn party chat on every time you join the party??...if we were all grouped together in a party do you think people would like to sit around and stare at the usernames??...would make sense if you could invite people to games which brings me to my next point
The Invite System
Probably the biggest pile of crap in the whole thing you cant simply click on a friend and invite to game......try setting up a private lobby in forza5 you will go insane you cant even join a session in progress .there is no option too unless the game you have has it built into their matchmaking system .you get the invites late,the pop ups to join the party game put you into lobbys of the people who are playing it on your friends list (who you may not want to play with) and sometimes it decides to randomly kick someone which causes the game to crash for one or two people in your party.
I have read somewhere that this function is there but is not visible if you are not matched this is completely crap
How Do you Fix this ????
let me suggest a few things
The Party and Friends System needs to be Quick..Snappy and to the point .most people dont want to stuff around snapping menus..clicking unmute and having to go through menus to simply reply back to a message
1) Make the orb button on the control bring up a menu that has Friends Party and Messages..nothing else If people want to go to the home menu let kinnect guide do it or add in a function like double clicking the orb button that does this .i know this is the snap function but surely that could be remapped to some other button press of combination Under these menus..have it like the 360s reply to message invite friend ect there should be no more than 2 submenus Any more than that and its bloated
2) Get rid of the matchmaking Party system crap I dont want to be matched up with everyone on my friends list who is playing the game Im playing..i suspect this is the evolution of the broadcast crap that was on the 360 that nobody that I know used.Its Crap..sometimes I feel like jumping in a game with some friends who are new to the game..sometimes I dont Do not put up a wall stopping me doing this and dont force me play with people I dont want to play with.
3) Let me invite or join session in progress like the 360 used too..dont block me from doing it because of my rank/reputation ect
4) Show me when my friends come online..and if I want to see who is online dont make me have to click on a filter every time I want to go through my hundreds of freinds
5) If I join a Party its because I want to chat with them dont mute everyone by default
I suspect many of these are already been worked on but in my opinion you should be able to quickly reply back to a message quickly join a game or quickly invite someone to a party..all of this can currently be done on the 360 in seconds
If someone who is working on the interface is reading this have someone with a 360 sit next to you and time how it takes to do something if it takes longer..scrap it if its quicker. Add it
Im betting also that there may be some quick shortcuts that Im not aware of but myself and 8 others on my friends list were all scratching their heads over the weekend trying to do basic things and we are gamers .imagine Mum and Dad trying to figure this out