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Theresa May: Donald Trump told me to sue the EU
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Cauliflower of Love
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DunDunDunpachi
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Perhaps she doesn't realize that "sue" is a legal form of "negotiations", but okay.
Leks
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Does Trump?
luigimario
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Bu' ma sovrentteeeeeee!!!1!!!
Brexit was such a shambles, no we will have a much worse deal with the EU than we had before.....
Brexit was such a shambles, no we will have a much worse deal with the EU than we had before.....
Forthefuture
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I cant f*king keep up with this guy. It is truly fascinating times.
Well not really, it implies an overarching government court which both parties agree to adhere to or the court and government will issue punishments.
“Suing” the EU doesn’t make much sense on a global level because you’d have to have an agreed upon court and the someway to enforce it.
In other worlds what court system would you use to sue the entire EU? I suppose you could use he EU courts, ignoring of course the obvious ramifications of using the same court system you are suing or he general lack of enforcement.
Overall the effort it would take to even produce a court system for them to even begin the process of suing is far more trouble than a simply straight negotiation between countries. In actual effect it doesn’t make any real sense.
Unknown Quantity
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Fake news, unless there was a recording, even then he did say some nice things about the EU.
BraveOne
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Lol okay ..
I guess only reset are the only news outlets. God forbid someone has a news app on their phone
p.s it was 1hr and 14 mins after the reset thread .
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Because the Prime Minister just feels the need to make up sh*t?? Are you also a flat earth or have you personally confirmed the world is round.
Vicetrailia
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TheShadowLord
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Cauliflower of Love
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That's why energy independence is so important.
China said fuck you to petrol, and is now having leverage they never had before.
China said fuck you to petrol, and is now having leverage they never had before.
TheLaughingStock
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He should've told her you can be rich and live comfortably without the EU. Plenty of countries don't need to be a part of it to be successful.
What is the point of this post?
Shifty
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And? Providing that they don't bring the reee and drama along with it or insist on namedropping the place and insta-derailing before a thread even begins, I don't see the issue.
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Nicktendo86
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I've not actually read it but I saw an article claiming he does actually have a point, I will see if I can find it...
Edit: here is is, behind a paywall so I will quote a few bit of the detail. Basically When Trump made the suggestion it was around the time the sequencing of talks was agreed, article 50 states that the negotiation on withdrawal should take into account the future relationship. The EU insisted that the talks should be sequenced with the terms of withdrawal sorted first (any 'divorce payments', issues around the Irish boarder etc) and only when 'sufficient progress' has been made on that could the talks move onto future arrangements (trade etc).
This does seem, on the face of it, against the wording of article 50 which doesn't mention separating the talks into different parts. It also put the UK at a massive disadvantage, we basically had to agree to pay £40billion for no guarantee of a trade deal and agree a backstop for the Irish boarder which is, at best, lunacy. Many argued at the time we would be crazy to agree to the sequencing and, in his resignation letter, former Secretary of State for Exiting the EU David Davis said he disagreed with giving it the all clear at the time but Prime Minister Theresa May overruled. Some (including me to be honest) say this points to more evidence that she wanted to scupper the whole negotiations from the off. but that's another matter.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...t-theresa-may-could-sue-eu-get-better-brexit/
Edit: here is is, behind a paywall so I will quote a few bit of the detail. Basically When Trump made the suggestion it was around the time the sequencing of talks was agreed, article 50 states that the negotiation on withdrawal should take into account the future relationship. The EU insisted that the talks should be sequenced with the terms of withdrawal sorted first (any 'divorce payments', issues around the Irish boarder etc) and only when 'sufficient progress' has been made on that could the talks move onto future arrangements (trade etc).
This does seem, on the face of it, against the wording of article 50 which doesn't mention separating the talks into different parts. It also put the UK at a massive disadvantage, we basically had to agree to pay £40billion for no guarantee of a trade deal and agree a backstop for the Irish boarder which is, at best, lunacy. Many argued at the time we would be crazy to agree to the sequencing and, in his resignation letter, former Secretary of State for Exiting the EU David Davis said he disagreed with giving it the all clear at the time but Prime Minister Theresa May overruled. Some (including me to be honest) say this points to more evidence that she wanted to scupper the whole negotiations from the off. but that's another matter.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...t-theresa-may-could-sue-eu-get-better-brexit/
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
And Trump continues to show that he is a moron with no real plan or intelligence.
I for one am shocked.....
I for one am shocked.....
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