Indie games count as well now.
well, they DO count don't they?
Indie games count as well now.
GT regularly sells 10 million plus.
Why can't people just say that people are buying the PS4 because it's a bad ass gaming machine for $400. And that playstation is a popular brand world side and Sony has taken the ps3 and fixed everything that was wrong with it. I personally could care less about launch titles. You buy a console for the 6-7 year generation that comes with it. You don't buy it to play 2 games at launch.
Their 2014 is going to be so sick. Remember, 20 first party games from Sony WWS within the first year of launch... and we know, what? 10? 12? I lost count. But they have a LOT left to unveil.
Their 2014 is going to be so sick. Remember, 20 first party games from Sony WWS within the first year of launch... and we know, what? 10? 12? I lost count. But they have a LOT left to unveil.
It would get the many, many impatient gamers around the internet who keep pretending like Sony doesn't have a deluge of games left to announce from their first party studios to say "alright, the future does look bright. A delay is a delay, a bad game is bad forever... but yeah, I have confidence in what the future has to offer."
I personally don't require it - I know why I'm getting a PS4, and none of them began and ended with DriveClub, though I was going to get it - but I definitely think strategically, with so many games left to announce, if DC wasn't going to make 2013, they could have given people a slightly larger glimpse of their future lineup then.
A thought occurs.
What if #DRIVECLUB is delayed.. But the PS+ version is not?
We already knew it was stripped down and the like. What if that's the version they offer before the real one? GT5 Prologue style?
Yea, meant to quote J-Rzez.
Honestly have no idea how I quoted you instead. Did not type your name in the box. Didn't quote any of your post... this is the second time this happened to me in this topic so I must be going crazy lol
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And how is Xbox One's better. I love how Xbox One Fans that like to talk about the Xbox One and Complain about the PS4 like to complain about the PS4 launch line up and completely ignore how bad their own line up is.
That guy is always on it turning news into funny tweets. Are we sure the account owner isn't a GAF member? The tweets seem to come soon after a new breaking news thread on GAF.
Oh absolutely, I'm was referring more to the way the thread is progressing. Hardliners defending the delay and attempting to downplay any claims of it being a blow to the consoles launch line-up, etc by posting lists and then arguing the games on those lists...
It's fascinating.
You think the PS4 is going to have 18 more first party games by next November?
Why can't people just say that people are buying the PS4 because it's a bad ass gaming machine for $400. And that playstation is a popular brand world side and Sony has taken the ps3 and fixed everything that was wrong with it. I personally could care less about launch titles. You buy a console for the 6-7 year generation that comes with it. You don't buy it to play 2 games at launch.
The people trying to sugarcoat this are cute. Yeah nobody was buying a PS4 FOR Driveclub, but the fact that a smaller form of it was free for PS+ was a HUGE deal. You were basically getting part of an exclusive large studio launch game for free. It is damaging to have this moved for PS+ members who were buying a PS4 no matter how you slice it.
It was a nice boon to my $400 purchase to get a decent chunk of a Sony Studios launch game.
well, they DO count don't they?
You think the PS4 is going to have 18 more first party games by next November?
I'm still skeptical about this. Many of these might be PSN/Crossplay titles. I imagine we'll see at least 2 or 3 more big titles before the end of the year, though.
Then why buy one at launch?
I'm also loving the sudden decreased importance of the PS4 being the cheaper console to play multiplats in recent discussions. Just seems like a few weeks ago when that was the BIG reason why the PS4 was going to crush everything else.
In terms of the watchdogs delay though? "Oh no man... Doesn't matter at all.".
It's not just you. I quote-replied to someone and somehow ended up with 2 different member quotes in my post...
I didn't know Drive Club was so vital to the launch of the PS4. For racing fans it's gotta suck, but I think the impact is way overblown here on GAF, as usual. Great news for Forza; no competition at launch will help a ton.
You think the PS4 is going to have 18 more first party games by next November?
I hope this isn't true as Driveclub looks pretty interesting and I have enjoyed the company's previous racing games. Fortunately, there are still a number of other games coming out to keep me occupied and I guess now I will just pay a bit more attention to Need for Speed.
Like you have a good history...
well, they DO count don't they?
RimeAccording to Vernandus and what we know so far:
1. inFamous
2. Something
3. The Order: 1886
4. SSM/Naughty Dog (one will be pushed to next year according to him)
and i'm expecting some Move titles from third parties in there
If they had gone with "Gran Turismo: DRIVECLUB" as was rumored, this would make so much more sense.
You think Watchdogs and DriveClub are game changers? Nobody gets to play Watchdogs at launch, and who honestly thought that DriveClub was gonna sell consoles?Then why buy one at launch?
I'm also loving the sudden decreased importance of the PS4 being the cheaper console to play multiplats in recent discussions. Just seems like a few weeks ago when that was the BIG reason why the PS4 was going to crush everything else.
In terms of the watchdogs delay though? "Oh no man... Doesn't matter at all.".
You think the PS4 is going to have 18 more first party games by next November?
If its delayed hopefully its gonna be replaced with KNACK
Why wouldn't it be? Seriously? Can you come up with a logical reason why that shouldn't be mentioned? Do you think fans of pinball videogames do not deserve to have titles aimed at them counted, or do you simply believe that by virtue of being a game about pinballs, it's not worthy of being counted along AAA CHECKLIST GAME 29,000?
So many people still trying to somehow give these companies "half credit" for smaller games and indie games. Remarkable in this day and age and so against what we as gamers should stand for.
well, they DO count don't they?
Someone forgot this wasn't N4G for a minute there...
No what is fascinating Miles is that Drive Club is getting more attention now than ever before. If anything people are significantly overplaying the importance of Drive Club in terms of sales potential, system seller capability, review scores. Hell this is the first time ive heard this game being mentioned as a "AAA" title. Its getting pimped out, for obvious reasons, to make this look far worse than it is.
The only exclusives that even remotely matter in any significant capacity are Killzone and Forza. And even those 2 games are peanuts compared to the likes of CoD, Battlefield, FIFA, Assassins Creed etc. Which are primarily the games that will sell these systems.
The real fascinating part is seeing a game that only a few cared about suddenly get enormous amount of attention because its rumored to be delayed.
is this remotely believable or confirmed? i see a lot of people treating it as fact in this thread.
We're including PSN "games" as well
is this remotely believable or confirmed? i see a lot of people treating it as fact in this thread.
They just haven't announced what their biggest studios are working on. It's not like they're not in the pipe. They're not missing. Sony's first party studios have not gone on hiatus.
However, this DriveClub news if true means they definitely should have revealed one or two of the other big titles they have in the pipeline for 2014.
I don't think Sony is lying. They have a massive number of studios unaccounted for. Yes, I do think easily Sony will have close to the 20 Sony WWS games from launch til the end of 2014.
However, some may indeed be PSN games. I don't think that somehow qualifiers them to be considered less or something, so I don't know why that would matter.
Careful with the insult guys, Xbot and Sony Ponies are bannable offenses as they only serve to insult and flame someone without adding anything to the table.
PS4 launch is looking pretty terrible now there's no denying it. If you where one of the guys that wanted Watch Dogs and DriveClub as your go to launch titles (both looks impressive) then you are better off waiting for next year. Next Year is going to be awesome with Titanfall, INfamous and Kinect Sports 3.
Sure looks that way.Next Year is going to be awesome with Titanfall, INfamous and Kinect Sports 3.
I would argue their slip ups occurred when they made decisions a year ago that put them in the position they're in now, with a weak lineup of exclusives in the first 9 months for the PS4.
After Infamous early next year, and now Driveclub, I think there is gonna be a big exclusives drought until The Order shows up in the Sep/Oct window.