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ZombieFred
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It still remains to be seen if we can cycle between first and third person, the image only shows the character in third person but one can hope since of the previous title having this feature.
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Thief 4 - First 'Screenshot'
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Graphics Horse
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StuBurns said:
Bow is horizontal, I think the thing in the corner is his elbow. maybe.
From The Dust
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From the looks of things, he's holding the bow horizontallyStuBurns said:
AgentOtaku
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ZombieFred said:
Preferred 3rd person in Deadly Shadows honestly. One of the best visuals in the game was garrett's model and the light bouncing off of it. The rest of the environments/NPCs were so so
MightyHedgehog
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I loved both, but the furnace-powered robots made for some of the best moments in T2, IMO.Gorgon said:
Gorgon said:
I may have agreed with you aside from the completely random forced combat sections that tried to turn the first thief into a first person shooter/slasher. The simple fact that the second game was completely designed around the principle that all encounters should have an alternative path (rather than through combat) and that the use of combat often times made the encounter harder rather than easier, meant that the second Thief's design was definitely more actualized and was by far the better game, regardless of your feelings of the inclusion of technology. I mean fuck, it's a steampunk world anyway. Through your expectations of what should be included out the window.
â Narayan
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Did you not play Thief 3, or something?fushi said:
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ZombieFred
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AgentOtaku said:
The game surely had some great visuals that still look fine today. One little detail I love was the light reflecting through the glass panels and how the lighting affected the area around with the guards patrolling the premises. Now if the team can deliver with the lighting and sound, something they already mentioned for their GDC event, then we should have a clear picture what to expect coming.
Now if we can get the same voice actor for Garret, then its all good.
fushi
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Yes, played it to completion, never switching out from the first person perspective. There is zero immersion for me when I can see my character on the screen.
Gorgon
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szaromir said:Thief series has such glorious level design.
This level was when Thief went from "fantastic" to "one of the best games ever". So good.
Is that "sorceres's house" level? Wher you have to
steal a sword
Gorgon said:
I am almost 99% postitive that there were 2, maybe 3 points in the first Thief which weren't solvable by any means other than combat. I'll look it up to see if I can find it when I get home. Or reinstall the game maybe.
I can possibly be completely off my rocker, but I really thought that was the case.
revolverjgw
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Gorgon said:
Gangsta Garrett
Gorgon
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Zeliard said:
Sure, but there was nothing "complex" about Thief. Use of shadows was top notch, but not really "complex" in any way. The guards movement was totally predictable too, it was just a matter of observation and patience. The game was pretty acessible in every possible way. I can't think of anything that could possibly be "streamlined". Unless we have different concepts of "streamlined".
Gorgon
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RyanDG said:I am almost 99% postitive that there were 2, maybe 3 points in the first Thief which weren't solvable by any means other than combat. I'll look it up to see if I can find it when I get home. Or reinstall the game maybe.
I can possibly be completely off my rocker, but I really thought that was the case.
OK, but I really doubt that there was any forced combat situation in the game at all.
DodgyGeezerFella
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szaromir said:Thief series has such glorious level design.
This level was when Thief went from "fantastic" to "one of the best games ever". So good.
That bit was so fucking freaky the first time i played it (in my gaming noob years), never forget it
From The Dust
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Damn it feels good to be a thiefneorej said:
Are the other three games worth playing? I hear 3 isn't as good as the first two. (and are they even on steam?)
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Game looks visual super hot.
Seeing as how I own the Thief trilogy, I really should play through them (only ever played the demo levels).
Seeing as how I own the Thief trilogy, I really should play through them (only ever played the demo levels).
Sho_Nuff82
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Looks late 19th century to me.Ceebs said:
DodgyGeezerFella
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From The Dust said:
Thief 3 is great.
The Cradle.
AgentOtaku
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As I said, anyway to get ThiefIII to recognize the 360 controller?
I remember is mapped perfectly to a Logitech twinstick pad back in the day....
I remember is mapped perfectly to a Logitech twinstick pad back in the day....
MightyHedgehog
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Ceebs said:
Yeah, the image is messy as hell and could be depicting a lot of things. Composite bows are cool, though, and a gnarly mechanical compound one with pulleys 'n shit would be neat. It might also hint at more mobile bow combat and an opportunity for Garret to upgrade or choose from different bows during the game. I think it would fit in with the steampunk/burgeoning industrial age-like trimmings of the world.
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ZombieFred
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Gorgon said:
Thief's level design still allowed the player to give a selection of options than most games today lack - giving a very linier route from point a to b, little exploration and risk vs. reward, and a more casual system that isnt as robust.
Most scenarios in thief allowed the player to get to their objective on different floor levels/layers rather than a one straight path. Or in some cases, with some exploration you could find a route that would help bypass a locked door or a room of guards where you might have to fight your way through and loose that perception of being a ghost. You had to really pay attention to where you were going and listen or you could easily be detected. Most games today tend to not have that and just point the route for where the player had to go.
Gorgon
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Ceebs said:
I'm afraid it really does look like a parka and a benie. If that is the case I'm fucking out, honestly. A few years back some artwork was released for a Thief 4 project supposed to be set in modern times and the project generated a shitstorm on the nets. If Eidos went the same route they're realy asking for another one.
Gorgon said:
I don't know that a game that focuses almost purely on staying away from enemies, in a gen where we've had so many "blow up whatever the fuck is in front of you" games, is terribly accessible to that many.
Pure stealth (or at least a very dominant focus on stealth) is a lot to ask for these days - that alone is going to make it somewhat non-accessible, if not entirely uninteresting, for a lot of modern gamers.
It's not that Thief is the pinnacle of complexity - it's that the type of patience it asks for is a crapshoot to ask from a lot of gamers nowadays. As a modern example, look at all the complaints leveled at Demon's Souls due to the patience it demands out of the player in navigating the environment, where it asks you do so slowly and with consideration for your surroundings.
Gamers as a whole have lost a great deal in the capacity for actually learning a game's systems, as well as traversing levels that aren't A ---> B corridor linearity. Hopefully this won't compromise this version, but I can't get my hopes up for a legitimate stealth game these days (MGS4 didn't quite cut it, and let's not even speak of Splinter Cell: Conviction).
Gorgon
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From The Dust said:
They're all worth playing. First is the best, imho. Second is along the same lines, almost feels like a separate expansion more than a whole new sequel, same controls, same (great) atmosphere, etc, but I didn't like it as much because they went overboard with the steampunk by adding robots but specially survailance cameras. It really is a matter of taste though.
Thisf 3 is more like 1 in terms of the Steampubk elements, and it IS a very good game. Some people didn't like it so much becsuse of some changes, but it is a very good game, and it has one of the best levels in the series in it too.
DodgyGeezerFella
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Thief Series playthrough go !
Gorgon
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ZombieFred said:
Well, I would't exactely call that as "complex" per se. The big levels with no automap yes, I have to agree they required focused attention from the player in a way that is not seen these days. The different paths and so on isn't realy anything I would call complex per se.
In general, the Thief games were pretty accessible and streamlined as they were. But then again, just my opinion.