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[DeepEnigma]

I would still wanna read the full article. Bloomberg reports what one person says. Does the article identify this person?

After the Starfield interview, I'm more likely to take anything Bloomberg says about Microsoft with a huge grain of salt.

The FTC aren't the ones that do the uploading. It's the companies legal staffers that are responsible by certain deadlines.

 

[Jigsaah]

The FTC aren't the ones that do the uploading. It's the companies legal staffers that are responsible by certain deadlines.

Then why is everybody saying this is thanks to the FTC?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Then why is everybody saying this is thanks to the FTC?

Narratives™

 

[Jigsaah]

Narratives™

So somebody at Xbox, basically uploaded their entire plan up to 2030....mistakenly. Who is responsible for reopening the document archive (i don't know the official name of the resource) to the public?

 

[Celcius]

Not only is it the biggest leak in videogame history, but it's also the beginning of the end of xbox as we know it (or at least just phil lol)

 

[kvltus lvlzvs]

So, is this the same thing as the Azure leak, or did MS leak 38T of Azure data at the same time as the FTC game leak stuff happened?

 

[diffusionx]

Nvidia leak because it's the gift that keeps on giving. Every few months a game from that leak is announced officially.

 

[ReBurn]

Its the most sinister portrait of what's happening behind the scenes yes.

 

[Elder Legend]

Never in my life have I seen such a leak. Literal new hardware and software combined with pictures, costings and release windows whilst giving direct access to the highest level of the company. I feel like the amount of information is overwhelming.

Not only that, it even confirmed a release date for next generation hardware which is 2028. Absolutely bonkers. Also, is the wording "Next Gen" the actual title of the next thing? Or is that a placeholder name? Because all of the names on here are official/final names of the consoles.

 

[Dr.D00p]

Microsoft has just Beta tested the reaction to its next console.

..and the message they'll get isn't one they'll like.

So it may have done everyone a massive favour.

 

[Elder Legend]

Microsoft has just Beta tested the reaction to its next console.

..and the message they'll get isn't one they'll like.

So it may have done everyone a massive favour.

This could be a blessing in disguise and they could come up with different plans instead and throw in a curveball no one saw coming.

 

[Lupin25]

Uhh, yes.

Talk about getting caught with your down.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Where's the email about them potentially exiting gaming by fiscal year 27 if certain projections aren't met?

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Then why is everybody saying this is thanks to the FTC?

Because these people didn’t read the article and just assumed they knew what happened.

 

[dem]

I mean.. the new hardware leak is just a refresh. It's not real exciting. It happens all the time.

I can't figure out if the Series X is a cylinder or flat back rounded front.

 

[FunkMiller]

Whisper it....

...all this shit could kill the ABK deal.

 

[ManaByte]

Probably the biggest lawsuit ever too.

 

[Guerilla Munch]

if not the biggest, it's definitely the most disastrous leak ever

the brand is already on the ropes and these leaks reveal almost nothing but panic, nefarious corporate schemes, unsustainable gamepass costs, and cloud hardware that nobody wants or ever will want

just when i thought i couldn't loathe microsoft anymore i see 400 leak threads and none of them are anything to get excited about aside from the Fallout 3 remaster maybe

 

[Jigsaah]

Because these people didn’t read the article and just assumed they knew what happened.

The first person I saw who reported this was Destin Legare at like 2:30 in the morning today, CST. I don't recall whether he blamed the FTC or not, but given the fact that I came away from that video blaming the FTC....I'm pretty sure it came from him. Though I'm pretty sure it was most likely reported on twitter (X?) first. So given the timing of the Bloomberg article...this is fresher information.

 

[DJ12]

I mean, the amount of shit covered in this MS leak, the entire Xbox roadmap, from future console plans, to game release roadmaps, to unnannounced games, and even acquisition plans - this is bigger than the GTA 6 leak.

It just keeps on giving.

Biggest leak in video game history?

Is it a leak if it comes from the source itself, surely that's just an PR release.

The state of Microsoft right now they might have done it to see if any of their ideas actually resonate with the console gaming population.

May as well find out no one gives a shit now than spend billions on r and d for something people don't want.

 

[hinch7]

Nvidia leak was way more spicy for upcoming games but as in internal POV, coming from a CEO and management its pretty much there.

I don't think I've ever seen a full product roadmap leaked before either.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

So somebody at Xbox, basically uploaded their entire plan up to 2030....mistakenly. Who is responsible for reopening the document archive (i don't know the official name of the resource) to the public?

FWIW, 38 TB of private Azure data also got accidentally leaked today. Is it really plausible to say the FTC have a motive to leak that out as well?

Even if they did, it's a bit weird that only suddenly people want to hold leakers accountable.

if not the biggest, it's definitely the most disastrous leak ever

the brand is already on the ropes and these leaks reveal almost nothing but panic, nefarious corporate schemes, unsustainable gamepass costs, and cloud hardware that nobody wants or ever will want

just when i thought i couldn't loathe microsoft anymore i see 400 leak threads and none of them are anything to get excited about aside from the Fallout 3 remaster maybe

The 10th-gen console plans sound kind of interesting, particularly that they're considering switching out to ARM. Which makes me wonder if Sony may be considering similar.

The mid-gen refresh hardware plans aren't quite as interesting though. And that new Series X looks like an elderly homecare appliance.

 

[StueyDuck]

Nvidia leak still keeps giving

 

[DeepEnigma]

So somebody at Xbox, basically uploaded their entire plan up to 2030....mistakenly. Who is responsible for reopening the document archive (i don't know the official name of the resource) to the public?

Somebody on their legal team uploaded the wrong files. Just like when somebody on Sony's legal team, uploaded the original marker files and not the photo copy versions. The FTC has nothing to do with who uploads and to where.

 

[Jigsaah]

Somebody on their legal team uploaded the wrong files. Just like when somebody on Sony's legal team, uploaded the original marker files and not the photo copy versions. The FTC has nothing to do with who uploads and to where.

Jesus Christ. Why is it necessary to upload this entire thing in the first place? Wouldn't it come out in court anyways?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Where's the email about them potentially exiting gaming by fiscal year 27 if certain projections aren't met?

Wait is this real? If it is I gotta see it, ain't no way.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Jesus Christ. Why is it necessary to upload this entire thing in the first place? Wouldn't it come out in court anyways?

Apparently it was being handled by their AI research team. Why? We probably won't ever know the truth to that.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Apparently it was being handled by their AI research team. Why? We probably won't ever know the truth to that.

They let their own AI upload their files? Damn, MS can't even trust their own tech.

 

[Jigsaah]

Apparently it was being handled by their AI research team. Why? We probably won't ever know the truth to that.

Ok, well since we have the information, might as well use it right? WTF 100 million Cloud users they are hoping for? Doesn't this go completely against what they argued in the FTC case?

 

[Dr. Acid Avatar]

It's going down for sure as the stupidest leak in gaming history.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Wait is this real? If it is I gotta see it, ain't no way.

Yup there's just too much to parse through

 

[trent_the_gent]

It's embarrassing more than anything else.

It shows that even they don't think they can dominate the gaming industry by being the best but rather they are going to dominate it by buying the best.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Yup there's just too much to parse through

Fuuuuuuc I wish I could still access the docs. Hoping they've been archived. That's wild.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Fuuuuuuc I wish I could still access the docs. Hoping they've been archived. That's wild.

Microsoft May Exit Gaming Business If Game Pass Subscribers off Console Don't Increase Enough by 2027

Microsoft's Phil Spencer said in testimony that the company may exit its gaming business if GP subscribers off consoles don't increase a lot.

wccftech.com

 

[Stare-Bear]

Is it a leak if your own staff upload it?

 

[Robb]

One of, at the very least.

So much stuff to gobble up!

 

[Jigsaah]

Apparently it was being handled by their AI research team. Why? We probably won't ever know the truth to that.

The legal team using AI? This is just too much. Why would they delegate some of their most sensitive information to AI?

Like I love AI, don't get me wrong. It draws fantastic titties. Makes cool logos. I even designed my own dragon born DnD character using AI. Handling a trillion dollar company's most guarded secrets?

No.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Microsoft May Exit Gaming Business If Game Pass Subscribers off Console Don't Increase Enough by 2027

Microsoft's Phil Spencer said in testimony that the company may exit its gaming business if GP subscribers off consoles don't increase a lot.

wccftech.com

100 million? By 2027?

They might as well start drafting their exit speech.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

https://x.com/DouglasLFarrar/status/1704175701367119924?s=20

Microsoft uploaded these things themselves

What are the odds any of this is real as opposed to being fakes which are meant to fool court observers and competitors?

 

[trent_the_gent]

100 million? By 2027?

They might as well start drafting their exit speech.

The only way they could achieve that figure in this timeframe would be to put Gamepass on every platform imaginable, including their competitors platforms.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

The first person I saw who reported this was Destin Legare at like 2:30 in the morning today, CST. I don't recall whether he blamed the FTC or not, but given the fact that I came away from that video blaming the FTC....I'm pretty sure it came from him. Though I'm pretty sure it was most likely reported on twitter (X?) first. So given the timing of the Bloomberg article...this is fresher information.

Ok fair enough, I didn’t see the exact order of events. It seemed like the unspoken assumption was that FTC was given these documents and then leaked them. Now we know that it was an error on MS’s part.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

100 million? By 2027?

They might as well start drafting their exit speech.

At least now the strategy makes sense and it's the reason they're so desperate for the purchase of Activision because their gaming business literally depends on it upping subs I think Phil has a mandate handed down to him

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

https://x.com/DouglasLFarrar/status/1704175701367119924?s=20

Microsoft uploaded these things themselves

What are the odds any of this is real as opposed to being fakes which are meant to fool court observers and competitors?

I have to think there’s no way these were fakes. There has to be some major consequences for providing the FTC with fraudulent, fabricated documents.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Is it a leak if your own staff upload it?

No, which is why this is suspicious

 

[Jigsaah]

I must be reading this graph/pie chart wrong from that article.

They want 100 millions subs with a VERY SIGNIFICANT portion being Cloud users....in 4 years? So....still this generation.

I'm not confident that they can pull this off. Ok take into consideration if they actually get ABK. That still wouldn't move the needle that significantly. What are they going to do? Get Candy Crush players to sub to gamepass?

100 million is insane. Sony doesn't even have that.

 

[trent_the_gent]

At least now the strategy makes sense and it's the reason they're so desperate for the purchase of Activision because their gaming business literally depends on it upping subs I think Phil has a mandate handed down to him

A huge chunk of their entire business is selling subs. Businesses of their size need to get into some sort of heavily cyclical model eventually because just selling "the product" will lead to stagnation.

 

[Kilau]

Probably the biggest lawsuit ever too.

Who is getting sued though?

 

[ManaByte]

Who is getting sued though?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

https://x.com/DouglasLFarrar/status/1704175701367119924?s=20

Microsoft uploaded these things themselves

What are the odds any of this is real as opposed to being fakes which are meant to fool court observers and competitors?

They aren't fake. MS could risk their business license by submitting false documents to the FTC in a legal investigation regarding a massive M&A.

At least, I'm assuming with high probability that's what they would risk having happen. Not worth it to lie about these things. They'd technically be lying to investors & shareholders as well, which is also massive.

The only way they could achieve that figure in this timeframe would be to put Gamepass on every platform imaginable, including their competitors platforms.

Which is impossible because without massive structural changes, Sony & Nintendo won't let Game Pass on their platform...

...unless Microsoft were to buy up enough 3P publishers to then pressure Sony, Nintendo etc. to accept their terms in getting Game Pass or else risk losing access to all of those games ...

At least now the strategy makes sense and it's the reason they're so desperate for the purchase of Activision because their gaming business literally depends on it upping subs I think Phil has a mandate handed down to him

But the funny thing is, Phil Spencer's the one who sold that roadmap to Satya Nadella, Brad Smith etc. in the first place. So, they're only going by the promises he made to them, to get this stuff done.

I imagine those guys don't have infinite patience; at some point they're going to demand some big results from Phil or kick him to the curb.

 

[Kilau]