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This is how I see monogamy for Men

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Also, alpha behavior is about being a leader. If you're in an unfamiliar situation where you're not the top dog, the alpha behavior is internalized until you reach a position of authority where you can lead. In that sense, alpha behavior as an intern on wall street would be showing deference, getting shit done, and making strong personal connections.

People who insist on being alphas at all times end being cops, gym teachers or bouncers. Actually, even cops wouldn't work. Basically gym teachers or bouncers.

So yeah, alphas have to "act beta" in order to get ahead in modern society.
 
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How are your incel alpha male theories not poison?

This is nothing more than veiled red pill politics expressed through the lens of human relationships.

Politics being banned from the forum made dumb threads like these stand out a lot more. Condemning one stupidity only to replace it with another is not what I'd consider a step forward.
 
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Concerning the beta males:

Rapid industrialization and city living is the cause. City life makes men effeminate because it basically brings him down to women level hormones, since the skills needed to survive are basically available for both. The division of labor between man and woman becomes blurred. Diet also is a contributing factor. If you go to the rural areas where testosterone is highly needed you will see everything is as it should be.
 
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How are your incel alpha male theories not poison?

This is nothing more than veiled red pill politics expressed through the lens of human relationships.

Politics being banned from the forum made dumb threads like these stand out a lot more. Condemning one stupidity only to replace it with another is not what I'd consider a step forward.
I don't know. I like OP because he's funny and I honestly don't take his stroke like rants too seriously (I mean, how could you?). I'm not even sure he does.
Don't be so grim.
 

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I don't know. I like OP because he's funny and I honestly don't take his stroke like rants too seriously (I mean, how could you?). I'm not even sure he does.
Don't be so grim.
Nothing funny about it, besides that is no excuse to disseminate his "red pill" rhetoric.

This is clearly just a pretext to propagate his political views and he is very aware of that otherwise he wouldn't have deleted some of the relevant parts of his comments.

It should be painfully obvious that your political alignment has zero bearing on your masculinity contrary to what OP seeks to imply here.

It is particularly disgusting in the wake of the recent changes.
 
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Nothing funny about it, besides that is no excuse to disseminate his "red pill" rhetoric.

This is clearly just a pretext to propagate his political views and he is very aware of that otherwise he wouldn't have deleted some of the relevant parts of his comments.

It should be painfully obvious that your political alignment has zero bearing on your masculinity contrary to what OP seeks to imply here.

It is particularly disgusting in the wake of the recent changes.
Oi! Don't you dare mansplaining me here, you bigot!

Haha, always wanted to say that :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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I mean, these idiots exist everywhere. Basic science and biology that is not effected by political correctness can acknowledge this as can even religions and old philosophy. But you know it is a good thing some men are in denial.

You cannot have a population of good working bees if all of them find out how crappy their lives are and inferior they really are or how bad they really are being screwed by those above them. This sucks but it is true.

And they are not aware of how the term "alpha" has evolved and what it means today. Which is dealing with dominance hierarchies, and hierarchy in general (patriarchy). Which surprisingly or not (western feminists) and many top universities have courses in gender theory and patriarchy and ´´toxic masculinity´´ which all consider this ´´alpha´´ and hierarchy problem to be in of itself a problem.
 
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Nothing funny about it, besides that is no excuse to disseminate his "red pill" rhetoric.

This is clearly just a pretext to propagate his political views and he is very aware of that otherwise he wouldn't have deleted some of the relevant parts of his comments.

It should be painfully obvious that your political alignment has zero bearing on your masculinity contrary to what OP seeks to imply here.

It is particularly disgusting in the wake of the recent changes.

You're a bitter little bellend oblivious of proving a point you're arguing against.

 
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I mean, these idiots exist everywhere. Basic science and biology that is not effected by political correctness can acknowledge this as can even religions and old philosophy.

You calling other people idiots is like Cardi B winning the third grader spelling contest.

Quite evidently the only "biology" or philosophy you've been confronted with is the comment section under a PUA on bitchute or /pol.

So the left and feminists acknowledge this but want to destroy it because they see hierarchy between males as something which leads to abuse of women and control of women.

Oh so this is whole relationship talk is merely an extension of your political views in order to rail against "the left".

Thanks for proving my point exactly.
 
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I meant what I said - you're an idiot. Go read through the thread.


I think alpha for humans is strength of will, leadership qualities and overall importance to the community and society as a whole. In this respect, I say guys like Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and Thomas Edison are some of the most alpha guys who ever lived.

Oh so this is whole relationship talk is merely an extension of your political views in order to rail against "the left".

I never said that, actually. You literally put words in your mouth.
 
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Don't waste your time. We'll have a few of these guys calling anything they don't want to engage with but disagree with "Political" just to shut down discussion because they are salty the politics forum was nuked.
Oh, this guy was one of the politards?

I guess that explains everything.. :messenger_grinning_smiling:
 

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Don't waste your time. We'll have a few of these guys calling anything they don't want to engage with but disagree with "Political" just to shut down discussion because they are salty the politics forum was nuked.

I was here on page 1 and the whole thread developed exactly as expected.

Veiled political proselytizing by appealing to people's emotional needs for relationships through vast and reductive generalisations of the opposite sex.

It's neither a joke nor an act but the desperate expression of fragile "redpill" masculinity feeling threatened by the modern dynamics of egalitarian relationships detached from traditional gender roles.
 
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It's neither a joke nor an act but the desperate expression of fragile "redpill" masculinity feeling threatened by the modern dynamics of egalitarian relationships detached from traditional gender roles.
Come on, now you're joking, right? You sound like some kind of Valerie Solanas.

Leave poor Vier Vier alone. He wouldn't be joking around with me, if he were that kind of mean ol' patriarch super villain you're making out of him.

I think you miss Politics and your images of enemies
 
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Come on, now you're joking, right? You sound like some kind of Valerie Solanas.

Leave poor Vier Vier alone. He wouldn't be joking around with me, if he were that kind of mean ol' patriarch super villain you're making out of him.

I think you miss Politics and your images of enemies
He's literally bringing in his conspiratorial garbage in from the defunct Politics section.

Let him hang himself, who gives a fuck.
 
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He's literally bringing in his conspiratorial garbage in from the defunct Politics section.

Let him hang himself, who gives a fuck.

You were the one railing against the left, complaining about "a very blue world" and other leftist notions.

And they are not aware of how the term "alpha" has evolved and what it means today. Which is dealing with dominance hierarchies, and hierarchy in general (patriarchy). Which surprisingly or not (western feminists) and many top universities have courses in gender theory and patriarchy and ´´toxic masculinity´´ which all consider this ´´alpha´´ and hierarchy problem to be in of itself a problem.

Yeah not political at all. The rest of that comment you've cowardly deleted but I quoted it above.

This is the second time now that you've deleted the political "redpill" parts of you comments.

You know exactly what you're doing and your intentions are obvious otherwise you would not have amended these parts.
 
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You were the one railing against the left, complaining about "a very blue world" and other leftist notions.



Yeah not political at all. The rest of that comment you've deleted but I quoted it above.

This is the second time now that you've deleted the political "redpill" parts of you comments.

You know exactly what you're doing and your intentions are obvious otherwise you would not have amended these parts.
Yeah buddy, believe whatever want. I've deleted nothing.

Just more conspiracies about the left, alt right, and blah blah blah.

By the way, I'm done talking to you.

Come back when you can fuck anything other than a Beluga whale.
 
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I was here on page 1 and the whole thread developed exactly as expected.

Veiled political proselytizing by appealing to people's emotional needs for relationships through vast and reductive generalisations of the opposite sex.

It's neither a joke nor an act but the desperate expression of fragile "redpill" masculinity feeling threatened by the modern dynamics of egalitarian relationships detached from traditional gender roles.

You. are. fucking. mental.

Keep simping, maybe you'll get a pity fuck one day.
 

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Yeah buddy, believe whatever want. I've deleted nothing.

Just more conspiracies about the left, alt right, and blah blah blah.

By the way, I'm done talking to you.

Come back when you can fuck anything other than a Beluga whale.

Nice, more cowardly lies and basic b*tch highschooler insults that are more insulting to overweight people than the person they are supposed to bother. That's about the level of discourse I'd expect from the galaxy brain that fathered this pitiful topic.

Considering your intellectual fortitude and the apparent lack of respect for any girl that doesn't fit your pornhub infused aesthetical standards, you shouldn't be the one giving relationship advice and telling others how to be more "manly". I don't know what's more pathetic, the PUA buzzwords, the incel rhetoric or the redpill vernacular. Somehow you seem to combine all three of them into a marvelous toxic blend of machismo talk and wannabe-chad internet posing.

You really have no clue about women if you're actually following the sad crap that you're spouting here.

Keep simping, maybe you'll get a pity fuck one day.

Brilliant, you two are really made for each other.
Now hold hands, seems to be your chance to finally get your first kiss.
 

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You guys always miss the quantifiers I put in my observations and inject "All women" in there instead.

You're right - I did miss it. My bad.

I can't say I've met any women who were like "Yay I'm married now time to never have sex again!" - but I also cannot deny they exist.
 
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Also, alpha behavior is about being a leader. If you're in an unfamiliar situation where you're not the top dog, the alpha behavior is internalized until you reach a position of authority where you can lead. In that sense, alpha behavior as an intern on wall street would be showing deference, getting shit done, and making strong personal connections.

People who insist on being alphas at all times end being cops, gym teachers or bouncers. Actually, even cops wouldn't work. Basically gym teachers or bouncers.

So yeah, alphas have to "act beta" in order to get ahead in modern society.
As opposed to society centuries ago where there was no hierarchy to climb and all alphas never acted as subordinates?
 
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Vier Vier you good?

Don't be sad because of this angry man. He's just a partypooper.
Sad about what? I got 'em more triggered than ever before. There have been absolutely no valid counter-arguments to what I've said.
Sorry for the delay, I've been getting my dick sucked dry by strange headache strange headache 's Grandmother. She's real gummer.

Don't worry, I shall educate you peeps who seem incapable of going outside personal thoughts. To put it in a simple sentence before we start, the dichotomy of alpha/beta is scientifically accurate when used in correlation with human behaviors within and without of social groups.

The concept of the alpha male comes from the animal kingdom, and interest in the sorts of animal hierarchies led by alphas picked up greatly in the second half of the 20th century. The term barely existed in literature until 1960 — though in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, first published in 1932, human beings were assigned, from fetus-hood on, to a caste ranging from alpha to epsilon — and since then has been on a mostly consistent upswing.

A solid chunk of that upswing comes from primatology research — researchers have long been fascinated by the complicated social structures of chimps, gorillas, and our other evolutionary cousins. The alpha chimp and the silverback gorilla, physically imposing as they often are (alpha chimps have been known to rip tree stumps out of the ground in terrifying displays of dominance), have come to symbolize in the public imagination a natural order that favors a single dominant male “winner.”

Even after discussion of alpha males was well established in various fields of animal behavior, though, the concept was rarely applied to humans. What changed that, at least in part, was the release of the Dutch primatologist Frans de Waal’s book Chimpanzee Politics: Power and Sex Among Apes in 1982. “I don’t think the term alpha male was in use outside of primatology when I wrote Chimpanzee Politics,”

Then by 2000 it went from academic scholarships to the Public Domain when Al Gore was coined a beta male who needs to beat an alpha male in Times Magazine, as well as Neil Strauss producing a pick-up book that year heavily relying on the concepts of beta-alpha.

Once it hit the public domain, things like this started popping up - which has more fluid information.....considering none of you contrary fucks seem to know anything outside your own little bubbles...so with that, scholars have worked to confirm and show the complexity of such a binary thought that has engulfed the public concern.

Perhaps one of the most fitting for a site like this is from Scott Barry Kaufman who is Scientific Director of The Imagination Institute and a researcher in the Positive Psychology Center at the University of Pennsylvania. He is co-author of Mating Intelligence Unleashed: The Role of the Mind in Sex, Dating, and Love and author of Ungifted: Intelligence Redefined.

More my speed, in Faye Flam's book The Score: The Science of the Male Sex Drive, Stanford Professor Robert Sapolsky shares his contention with the alpha/beta myth in humans, stating that alpha males in other species operate similar to what is observed among humans. He notes that in dogs and wolves, for example, every member has a place in the hierarchy. And among baboons, he notes, the alpha male dominates over a group of subordinates who are equal in power to each other—until he is challenged and overthrown. In these species, the alphas exert more power. Humans are more complex, but similar Sapolsky says. We belong to more than one social circle—a man who may be a custodian by day may be a superstar DJ by night. Flam also interviewed anthropologist Tim White, who said that alpha males likely ruled the common ape ancestor humans shared with chimps roughly 7 million years ago, and can be seen amongst humans

If you have even the smallest basic grasp of primatology and human behavior. It is quite laughable to deny such a simplistic understanding.
 
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